View Poll Results: Do you like dashboards with center aligned instrument clusters?
Yes
7.41%
No
88.89%
Meh, I think I could get used to it
3.70%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

Center aligned Instrument Cluster, what's your thoughts?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:41 AM
  #1  
Sly Raskal's Avatar
Thread Starter
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 30,991
Likes: 582
From: Fontana, California
Center aligned Instrument Cluster, what's your thoughts?

We've been seeing more and more cars with their instrurment clusters mounted in the center of the dash rather than directly in front of the driver the way I feel it should be.

I was looking at the Toyota Yaris yesterday and I really don't like Toyota, although for a gas saver, I really like the Yaris. That was until I saw the interior pics. Everything I liked about the car was killed the minute I saw the instrument cluster mounted dead center on the dash.



Why are auto manfacuters doing this?

The only logical reason I can think of is to save money on a global market because they don't have to create left and right side based dashboards, although many other components still need to be constructed. Even still, how much money are they really going to save on that one part.

I think this is the stupidest design road any manufacturer could take, who's with me on that???

Also, name off some cars that have dashboards that are center aligned that you like.

Last edited by Sly Raskal; Jun 15, 2007 at 10:46 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:48 AM
  #2  
Deity711's Avatar
Yes it is!
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 929
Likes: 0
From: Houston
I've had to drive my friend's Saturn Ion a few times and it's disorienting. Especially at night, with lights that high on the dash.

I'm more comfortable moving my eyes quickly up and down to check speed as opposed to left and right.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 11:01 AM
  #3  
Ashburner's Avatar
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 6,034
Likes: 10
From: Outside Houston
I don't like them at all.

Maybe they have midgets installing them from the passenger side and they can't reach all the way across
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 11:04 AM
  #4  
YVRTSX's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 168
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver, BC
I really despise them. I have had a few rental cars with them and I've found it to be a nuisance. You need to adjust your instrument scanning habits from up and down to down and right. A couple of times I found myself driving faster since the speedo wasn't in my "normal" field of view.

It also kind of weird driving at night with a big dark space in front of the steering wheel where you're used to having dash lights.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:29 PM
  #5  
gatrhumpy's Avatar
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 35,532
Likes: 1,654
I hope people that manufacter these things fall off a short cliff into a raging river of death with alligators at the bottom and Boosted Jack waiting for them in a boat telling them about his huge e-penis.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:49 PM
  #6  
CGTSX2004's Avatar
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 24,299
Likes: 380
From: Beach Cities, CA
Hate'em. I hope they all disappear.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:04 PM
  #7  
Bearcat94's Avatar
AZ Community Team
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 32,488
Likes: 7,771
From: N35°03'16.75", W 080°51'0.9"
"No" (in your poll) is not nearly strong enough. "Hate 'em" - would be good; "Hate 'em with a Passion" - Better; "Hate 'em with a Passion, the designers should be fired and the Marketing Department lined up and shot" - I could vote for that.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:07 PM
  #8  
Sly Raskal's Avatar
Thread Starter
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 30,991
Likes: 582
From: Fontana, California
Wow, I've hated this design for a long time. I never realized there were so many people that really really REALLY hated it.

I just hope that the auto manufacturers listen. Yea, like that'll happen.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:15 PM
  #9  
F23A4's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 18,017
Likes: 1,737
Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
Hate'em. I hope they all disappear.
Nissan correctly revised the 07 Quest with a conventionally located gauge cluster.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:25 PM
  #10  
SwervinCL's Avatar
Nom Nom Nom Nom
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 11,801
Likes: 76
From: Universal City
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy
I hope people that manufacter these things fall off a short cliff into a raging river of death with alligators at the bottom and Boosted Jack waiting for them in a boat telling them about his huge e-penis.





I cant stand them.. Xa and Xb are like that.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:36 PM
  #11  
gatrhumpy's Avatar
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 35,532
Likes: 1,654
Originally Posted by SwervinCL





I cant stand them.. Xa and Xb are like that.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:38 PM
  #12  
stangg172004's Avatar
_____ like a rabbit
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 8,594
Likes: 12
From: Edgewater, Chicago, IL
hate it
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:40 PM
  #13  
kwelity's Avatar
03 3.2 TL FPR
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 300
Likes: 0
From: Charleston SC
THE ABSOLUTE WORST THING TO BE DONE TO NEW VEHICLES EVER IMO..... Can't stand it now a HUD of your speed like in the older Caddy Devilles and the newer Civics is the shizzle we need more HUD's IMO
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 02:43 PM
  #14  
Python2121's Avatar
The hair says it all
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 7,566
Likes: 0
From: Manhattan, NYC
I am with others, a mere "no" doesn't represent my passion for how much these suck. I would never buy a car with it, i can't believe others would.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 02:43 PM
  #15  
AsianRage's Avatar
Chloe @ 17mo
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,931
Likes: 0
From: Snohomish, WA
I don't like them. I don't understand the desire/need/logic behind such design.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 02:52 PM
  #16  
Crazy Bimmer's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 34,937
Likes: 638
From: Chicago Burbs
Only if you put my seat in the center, Mclaren style.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 05:19 PM
  #17  
Sly Raskal's Avatar
Thread Starter
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 30,991
Likes: 582
From: Fontana, California
Alright Moog, Did you vote yes just to dick with us or what? Come on, come out and tell us you like the :ghey: center design.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:25 PM
  #18  
mclarenf3387's Avatar
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 8,620
Likes: 7
From: Charlotte
I don't mind it on some cars. The Z8 is like that, and I think it kind of adds to the retro look of the car. Plus its not that bad while driving. I couldn't live with it every day though.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 07:30 PM
  #19  
Zippee's Avatar
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,355
Likes: 1
When I was in school I had a Mini (the real one, not the BMW) that was laid out that way. No problem to get used to it.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 08:58 PM
  #20  
Socol's Avatar
Custom User Title
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 157
Likes: 0
I always hated the 92-96 Prelude dash; this design is even worse.

Maybe it's a new marketing angle, for the new generation of adolescents who want to be "different" (gay)
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 09:20 PM
  #21  
fsttyms1's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 81,385
Likes: 3,068
From: Appleton WI
Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Only if you put my seat in the center, Mclaren style.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2007 | 11:06 AM
  #22  
hemhaw's Avatar
Drinking Beer In
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 525
Likes: 0
From: Portland, OR
Ah hell no! Instruments in the center (other than a race car) is the dumbest idea ever. This is what happens when you give artsy fartsy types too much control.

Form is supposed to follow function, not the other way around.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2007 | 03:28 PM
  #23  
Osamu's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,138
Likes: 4
From: 808
i'm the only one that voted 'meh, i could get used to it'

I admit I hated it at first, and I still think it makes no sense, but I think i could get used to it after a while.

I've driven the xB, and found it a little odd, but it wouldn't be the deciding factor if whether or not i'd buy one. I supposed the fit looks more appealing because of the traditional gauge cluster. and i definitely would want traditional gauges with a manual transmission. But having center mounted gauges has it's advantages if you are an sound quality fanatic.


p.s. does the picture of the yaris from the OP really not have a tach? I really don't understand a manual without a tach.

Last edited by Osamu; Jun 16, 2007 at 03:32 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2007 | 04:58 PM
  #24  
Sly Raskal's Avatar
Thread Starter
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 30,991
Likes: 582
From: Fontana, California
^^^ i snagged that pic from the toyota website. I dont' recall if they stated if that pic was from a manual version or not.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2007 | 05:30 PM
  #25  
Osamu's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,138
Likes: 4
From: 808
looks like a manual to me
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2007 | 07:15 PM
  #26  
Mokos23's Avatar
Race Director
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 10,741
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
sucks because you have to eventually be hurt your neck always looking to the right in the center cluster.

i guess it's good if you have passengers in the back and think you're either going too fast or driving with the posted speed limit and they can see you're telling the truth.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 10:03 AM
  #27  
driver centric's Avatar
I Know Right?
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 418
Likes: 0
From: MD
Originally Posted by 04EuroAccordTsx
sucks because you have to eventually be hurt your neck always looking to the right in the center cluster.

Sorry, this never happens. The gauges are on the center of the dash, not in the passenger seat.

I've had 2 cars (Scion xB, Toyota Yaris) with center-mounted gauges and it's never bothered me, very easy to adjust to. If you asked me before I owned them I probably would have said the same thing a lot of people here are saying, but when you drive with the gauges there day to day, it's a non-issue. With both I've actually found myself looking at the gauges less because they were higher up in my line of vision so I could tell how fast I was going just through my peripheral sight of the speedo.

But anyways, no complaints here. And for those who were asking, no the Yaris Liftback doesn't have a tach...it's an $11K car, I figure costs have to be cut somewhere. I shift at the speeds recommended in the manual...if you're worried about knowing when it's redlining, I'll just remind you it only has 106 hp. lol
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:23 AM
  #28  
Sly Raskal's Avatar
Thread Starter
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 30,991
Likes: 582
From: Fontana, California
Originally Posted by Osamu
looks like a manual to me
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:43 AM
  #29  
odessa's Avatar
Pre-Registered Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,869
Likes: 246
I despise them
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:58 AM
  #30  
aackshun's Avatar
Confused Maxima Owner
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 708
Likes: 0
From: Houston, Tx
before I drove the xB I thought it was a HORRIBLE idea until I drove it... I could keep my eyes on the road and the speedometer which I think its nifty, but I still prefer the good ol under ur eyes speed/tachometer.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 12:18 PM
  #31  
Python2121's Avatar
The hair says it all
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 7,566
Likes: 0
From: Manhattan, NYC
A car that has those immediately throws out the possibility that it is a drivers car, and those are the only cars I would buy.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 12:28 PM
  #32  
SiGGy's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 9,263
Likes: 2
From: Lenexa, KS
I rented a saturn with it for a week. I hated it... I'd like to see the study/data that made the manufacturers choose to go this way...
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:00 AM
  #33  
03silvertypeS's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,612
Likes: 7
From: Pittsburgh, PA
i had to drive my girl's grandmother's saturn ion to Atlanta and back last summer and the gauges in the center has got to be the worst idea ever. I rarely looked at them and the location drove me absolutely crazy the entire time I was driving. The other thing that bothered me about the location of them is every passenger can see the speed. Her grandmother still bitches about how "fast" I was going and I was going around 10 over (if that).
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 02:54 PM
  #34  
mr.motoring's Avatar
checkmate...
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,422
Likes: 0
From: Red Stick, LA Chocolate City, LA
Center mounted gauges look ghey, and the verti-stacked HVAC dials look like a thong.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 03:10 PM
  #35  
is300eater's Avatar
I Shoot with a Camera
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 23,082
Likes: 3,684
From: Vancouver BC
but that empty space directly in front of you would be perfect for a portable DVD player You can watch a movie during your morning commute












j/k
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
james357
Car Parts for Sale
19
Feb 13, 2016 02:37 PM
Yumcha
Automotive News
2
Sep 17, 2015 10:16 AM
Yumcha
Automotive News
4
Sep 15, 2015 06:44 PM
Allen_442
2G TL (1999-2003)
10
Sep 8, 2015 06:01 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:26 PM.