Car & Driver wrecked their beloved BMW 328i

Old 01-03-2001, 09:22 PM
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Car & Driver wrecked their beloved BMW 328i

In the Feb.01 Long-Term test on the BMW 328i, they had a slight fender bender with an oak tree. At first sight, they thought the damage was very minor. The repair bill came to $28,458. The bill was 11 pages long with $14,778 in parts and $11,898 in labor. That serves them right for not giving Acura their props!

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Old 01-03-2001, 09:24 PM
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I would think that would be considered totalled wouln't it?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Achance:
I would think that would be considered totalled wouln't it?</font>
They get into that trying to justify why the insurance company didn't total it.


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Old 01-03-2001, 09:38 PM
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Ooops! Someone said they had a lot of BMW ads -- they are right ;-)
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I'm sure BMW will comp them a new one for all the great press they get.

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they should save themselves the repair costs, donate the wrecked car to the salvation army, and buy a brand spanking new type s!

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Love the TL, CL, and BMW. Have you guys driven a Bimmer? I know the 540i isn't really comprable, but the 330Ci is a very nice ride in hadling, ride, and power. Not busting anyone's chop cuz you're all entitled to your opinion but I use to talk shit about the IS300 until I drove one. You can't tell me that you wouldn't buy a 330Ci if you had the money. Let me rephrase that cuz I know I'll get flamed for that comment . If you were given a choice of free 330Ci or CL-S you would honestly take the CL-S?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">If you were given a choice of free 330Ci or CL-S you would honestly take the CL-S?</font>
I could afford either car if I wanted it.

If you threw in maintenance cost, insurance cost and an SUV for winter driving, I would consider the Bimmer……Otherwise I’ll stick with ACURA.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by AC:
If you were given a choice of free 330Ci or CL-S you would honestly take the CL-S?</font>
C'mon AC... nuttin' wrong with likin' Bimmers, but there's also nothing wrong with slammin' them if you don't like them either!! Some people just don't prefer BMW... I know that's hard for some people to believe, but it's true. I honestly would buy the CL-S if it were the same price. The 330Ci would need to be AT LEAST $5K cheaper for me to even consider it.
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I guess the handling on that BMW wasn't as good as Car And Driver said. If it was surely they could avoid that tree. That wasn't a fender bender either...it was a wreck.

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Old 01-04-2001, 11:21 AM
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honestly I think were really lucky...we're getting the benefit of acura trying to reestablish it self in the upscale market IMO
this car is worth 5K$ more than we paid for it...but in order to get them out there and for maybe some non Honda die hard fans to convert it's less for now

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WEll, Just b/c they give the 330w/sport package a better rating doesn't mean that they don't give Acura props. The fact is that the 330 with sport package is a better car the the CL-S. IT may cost a hell of a lot more but hey if you have the money what does it matter?

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How come you guys get your Car & Drive so early?? I always get mine the 8th or 9th of every month. It's not fair!!! Last month, I got it the 12th, probably because of all the damn snow storms. IT'S NOT FAIR!

There, I feel better now!

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Good points everyone!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by alex2364:
How come you guys get your Car & Drive so early?? I always get mine the 8th or 9th of every month. It's not fair!!! Last month, I got it the 12th, probably because of all the damn snow storms. IT'S NOT FAIR!

There, I feel better now!

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I still haven't got mine either. I was still reading the Ten Best stories last night when I took a dump...


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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by davo-cls:
In the Feb.01 Long-Term test on the BMW 328i, they had a slight fender bender with an oak tree. At first sight, they thought the damage was very minor. The repair bill came to $28,458. The bill was 11 pages long with $14,778 in parts and $11,898 in labor. That serves them right for not giving Acura their props!

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That is friggin' hilarious!!!!!!!!!!! What doesn't seem right is that they didn't total it, at $28,458 it must have been more than half the value of the car.... Then again, they are extremely overpriced.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by YuppieCL:
they should save themselves the repair costs, donate the wrecked car to the salvation army, and buy a brand spanking new type s!

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I second that idea...

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If you were given a choice of free 330Ci or CL-S you would honestly take the CL-S?
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I actually looked at the Audi, BMW 328, and the Acura around August. The Audi and BMWs had nice features (I like AWD *and* RWD, but the price with was about 10k more with the features I wanted). I owned a 70' BMW 2002 ti (mod city-- webbers, milled, pistons, cams, lowered, sways) for 20+ years *and* had a 92 Maxima SE. The 2002 was the most tossable car I ever had.

However, being stuck in the land of congestion, I have to drive to clients in 1-25 mph traffic *and* the manual gets really tiring after a while. They are putting speed bumps through local canyons and local streets, so the fun rides are getting shorter and shorter around here.

So, given the choice (cost no object), WITH NO manual tranny, I looked at the Acura CL-S as a great car stock (Good for in town/in traffic, good for economy, good for fast line and corners). I figured if the car was as good as it is with dead stock, then the car would be killer with a few mods. I kind of feel like the Acura is my new "test" platform for exciting additions while still being able to be stuck in traffic.

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I know a couple of gals that had older Acuras and never had a problem. They know a service manager that went from Acura to BMW for more $$$. They talked to him one day on my behalf (about reliability, etc) he said that I thought the BMW was OK, but really thought the Acura was very well made with less problems.
Some people had some nasty hits while in their 2001 CL Type-S *and* walked away quite scared, but quite safe.

I may have bought the BMW if they had a Acura's service record, *and* a true F1 type automatic (manual with electronic actuation), and a bit more seat width.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CL301:
I guess the handling on that BMW wasn't as good as Car And Driver said. If it was surely they could avoid that tree. That wasn't a fender bender either...it was a wreck.</font>
LMAO !! Good observation.....



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shawn S:
I could afford either car if I wanted it.

If you threw in maintenance cost, insurance cost and an SUV for winter driving, I would consider the Bimmer……Otherwise I’ll stick with ACURA.

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I agree with Shawn on this one.....



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To EricL...........as a former long, long time LA resident.....Say it isn't so! Speed bumps in canyon roads???? Laurel, Coldwater, Malibu??? Oh I hope not. One more in a series of politically correct California hairballs. By the way the BMW wasn't totaled because the sticker was at 39K+ (with options) for a replacement--hence the hefty repairs went ahead.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bc01cls:
To EricL...........as a former long, long time LA resident.....Say it isn't so! Speed bumps in canyon roads???? Laurel, Coldwater, Malibu??? Oh I hope not. One more in a series of politically correct California hairballs. By the way the BMW wasn't totaled because the sticker was at 39K+ (with options) for a replacement--hence the hefty repairs went ahead.

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They just put speed bumps on Nichols Canyon, and the paint marks are going in for more. I don't think they will do the main canyons: Benedict, Coldwater, etc/ since they are traffic arteries. However, there are lots of little short cuts and area streets that are traffic light controlled, but the residents have money and don't want people going above 25-30mph.

If you like short cuts, you will hate where the speed bumps are going. They want all of the cars running down the main streets, and want to keep people from using alternative routes. Beverly Hills has some back roads that now have speed bumps. Some of the main drags have no-left-turn signs to keep the cattle rolling down the 10mph cattle runs.

I just started seeing a new round of the bumps in the last few weeks...

Maybe, someone will post a short cuts ruined board!


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Eric..........I know Nichols Canyon, had an old friend that lived there for years. Man that sucks big time about the bumps-sign of the times I guess. Still have electricity??

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Dan P., who has an excellent Audi S4 site, had to replace his tranny due to bizzare galling problem at 3,000 miles or so. New S4 transmission, installed, $14,000! The German stuff ain't cheap...........

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SLAMCLTYPES:
that's what happens when you have a BMW

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Hey hey now, You'd better watch what you say now. SOME BMW drivers are VERY touchie when you talk about their cars. KNOW WHAT I MEAN



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Well, since my 'Vette is on the way, I guess that puts me firmly in the 'domestic' camp. However, any BMW driver - excepting Mssrs. Schumacher & Montoya of course - will have plenty of opportunity to talk about what a big, plastic, ungainly, cheap looking butt the Z06 has as I blow past them! And that's the name of that tune, Jack.

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