California to reduce carbon emissions by banning...
03-25-2009, 10:55 PM
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California to reduce carbon emissions by banning...
Black cars????
What the hell is wrong is California??
I think its time to move out.
Links..
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/25/c...ng-black-cars/
http://www.arb.ca.gov/cc/cool-paints...ation31209.pdf
http://wardsauto.com/commentary/cool...s_ugly_090324/
What the hell is wrong is California??
I think its time to move out.
The specific colors that are currently on the chopping block are all dark hues, with the worst offender seemingly the most innocuous color you could think of: Black.
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/25/c...ng-black-cars/
http://www.arb.ca.gov/cc/cool-paints...ation31209.pdf
http://wardsauto.com/commentary/cool...s_ugly_090324/
03-25-2009, 11:17 PM
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03-26-2009, 12:18 AM
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No chance that would get through. Political bluster. Its the type of thing that a legislator will bring up to make it look like he's doing something, yet he knows it has zero hope of passing.
Auto sales are down 33% and now state government wants to remove a third of the color palate? The Toyota lobby alone would crush that one. Forget it.
Auto sales are down 33% and now state government wants to remove a third of the color palate? The Toyota lobby alone would crush that one. Forget it.
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03-26-2009, 06:38 AM
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Well, those politicos have to put their Cal State Berkeley education to good use. They can go hump a tree, eat granola, and drive their kids to soccer practice in their 9 mpg Expedition. Assholes. That is why California is so screwed up.
03-26-2009, 10:33 AM
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03-26-2009, 11:22 AM
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This is an April Fool's,right?
03-26-2009, 11:33 AM
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Idiots.....as if people drive their cars around in the summertime with the A/C off.
It does not matter if your car is black or white, when it's +85F you will never turn off your A/C regardless of the color of the car. Nobody cools down the car and then turns off the A/C...it's too hot to turn it off.
It does not matter if your car is black or white, when it's +85F you will never turn off your A/C regardless of the color of the car. Nobody cools down the car and then turns off the A/C...it's too hot to turn it off.
03-26-2009, 03:15 PM
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You know at my school, the new director of the Mech. Eng. program went to Berkely after finishing his degrees at my school, and then came back. IMO the program is not nearly as good as it was just one year ago. They are passing over some of our best professors for tenure so that they can keep older professors in tenure. Thing is, some of those old farts really hate to teach and you can tell when you take a class from them.
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From Autoblog:
"To be completely fair, the California Air Resources Board never intended to ban black paint -- or any color of paint, for that matter. When devising ways to implement the Cool Cars Initiative, CARB couldn't find any dark paints that passed the 20% solar reflectivity test, which others took to mean that CARB would be banning them. Not so, says a CARB spokesman: "We are by no means interested in banning or restricting car colors." For now, CARB is sticking with the reflective glass portion of the initiative, which would add a reflective clear coat to windows and $31-$50 to the price of a new car, and is taking public comments on the proposed new rules."
"To be completely fair, the California Air Resources Board never intended to ban black paint -- or any color of paint, for that matter. When devising ways to implement the Cool Cars Initiative, CARB couldn't find any dark paints that passed the 20% solar reflectivity test, which others took to mean that CARB would be banning them. Not so, says a CARB spokesman: "We are by no means interested in banning or restricting car colors." For now, CARB is sticking with the reflective glass portion of the initiative, which would add a reflective clear coat to windows and $31-$50 to the price of a new car, and is taking public comments on the proposed new rules."
03-30-2009, 08:38 PM
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From Autoblog:
"To be completely fair, the California Air Resources Board never intended to ban black paint -- or any color of paint, for that matter. When devising ways to implement the Cool Cars Initiative, CARB couldn't find any dark paints that passed the 20% solar reflectivity test, which others took to mean that CARB would be banning them. Not so, says a CARB spokesman: "We are by no means interested in banning or restricting car colors." For now, CARB is sticking with the reflective glass portion of the initiative, which would add a reflective clear coat to windows and $31-$50 to the price of a new car, and is taking public comments on the proposed new rules."
"To be completely fair, the California Air Resources Board never intended to ban black paint -- or any color of paint, for that matter. When devising ways to implement the Cool Cars Initiative, CARB couldn't find any dark paints that passed the 20% solar reflectivity test, which others took to mean that CARB would be banning them. Not so, says a CARB spokesman: "We are by no means interested in banning or restricting car colors." For now, CARB is sticking with the reflective glass portion of the initiative, which would add a reflective clear coat to windows and $31-$50 to the price of a new car, and is taking public comments on the proposed new rules."
I think CARB sensed the major backlash this would cause and quickly changed their minds.
04-01-2009, 12:28 AM
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You know at my school, the new director of the Mech. Eng. program went to Berkely after finishing his degrees at my school, and then came back. IMO the program is not nearly as good as it was just one year ago. They are passing over some of our best professors for tenure so that they can keep older professors in tenure. Thing is, some of those old farts really hate to teach and you can tell when you take a class from them.
There are some lingering radicals here (tree sitters, hippies, etc) and it's more liberal than average, but the students here these days are pretty sane. It's not that whacky or radical anymore... most students are just here to learn, not to incite riots or anything.
Now for the actual topic -- sorry for the rant, but I felt the need to defend my school. This is a retarded idea. Californian politicians are f***ing insane. I've tried to tell people how California attempts to regulate every aspect of life, and this is a perfect example. Banning black cars... unbelievable.
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Some good news:
The Great California Black Car Crisis is over — for now at least.
The California Air Resources Board said Friday that it has no plans “at this time” to regulate car paint as part of a plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions — and never intended to outlaw black cars in the first place.
“We are by no means interested in banning or restricting car colors,” CARB spokesman Stanley Young said.
Reports that regulators were planning to banish black cars from the Golden State in an effort to reduce air pollution created a global uproar, perhaps best expressed in this headline from Rush Limbaugh’s website: “Tyrants Want to Ban Black Cars.” The purported black car ban was said to be part of the “cool cars” initiative being cooked up by the air board, which is looking for ways to follow the legislature’s mandate to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in California. Greenhouse gases are a cause of global warming, and automotive tailpipe emissions are a major source.
Read the rest at Up to Speed, The Times' car blog.
The Great California Black Car Crisis is over — for now at least.
The California Air Resources Board said Friday that it has no plans “at this time” to regulate car paint as part of a plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions — and never intended to outlaw black cars in the first place.
“We are by no means interested in banning or restricting car colors,” CARB spokesman Stanley Young said.
Reports that regulators were planning to banish black cars from the Golden State in an effort to reduce air pollution created a global uproar, perhaps best expressed in this headline from Rush Limbaugh’s website: “Tyrants Want to Ban Black Cars.” The purported black car ban was said to be part of the “cool cars” initiative being cooked up by the air board, which is looking for ways to follow the legislature’s mandate to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in California. Greenhouse gases are a cause of global warming, and automotive tailpipe emissions are a major source.
Read the rest at Up to Speed, The Times' car blog.
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