ClutchPerformer

They do. It's the TIRES!

fdl

If anything its a combo of the two, but the TSX brakes are not good enough for such a heavy car. I noticed this right from the first time I ever used them.

dom

Ok, maybe its a big V6 but the RL is a big car.

The only other 4.0L V6's I can think of off the top of my head is the new Nissan 4.0L, the 4.0L 210HP V6 in the Mustang and the 4.2L in the Ford Freestar. Besides that GM has the 3.8, 3.9 and a 4.3 for their truck line.

So a 4.0literish V6 is not uncommon.

Lung Fu Mo Shi

It's probably just a stoked version of the VQ3.5 to generate more low-end torque for the trucks. You wouldn't want it in a car...you lose the top end.

fdl

kinda like the TSX?

dom

It is. Its tuned for more TQ than the 3.5 and earlier like you mentioned. But I'm sure a 4.0L can be tuned for the top end as well.

justinjsw

Have any of you driven the car yet??? If no...why not go drive it first...then come back and say what you think it may or may not need.

I think alot of you keep looking at the RL as this E500/545I killer...its not.
There will be another version...just like there will be another version of the TL.

sipark

I agree.. But, I can't stop laughing at 6.0 litre V8 corvette engine even though it's a good engine.. That's really staying within the convention .

fdl

Do you mean like a type-s?

dom

So how is Honda new Ridgeline Pickup going to be tuned? It also uses the 3.5

ClutchPerformer

Yeah, that is kinda funny, but there's no replacement for displacement. And I doubt that GM wants to make a V-12 anytime soon.

A perfect example, though, is BMW's new 5L V-10. Mmmmmm... perfection.....

phile

Hmm...another version, like the A-specs or something completely different?

Dan Martin

My guess is that the TL will get AWD and IMA and the RL will eventually get the V8 that Honda is working on.

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

I did drive the car and I thought it was great, except the steering could use a little more feel. For the money, there really isn't a better car on the market.

phile

I think the TL will get that as well (considering that the Accord will soon have the hybrid version); not sure about the RL and the V8...

Dan Martin

Well it sounds like a V8 is in the works: https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=122

I don't know if it's going to fit in the RL though. If not then we can safely assume that IMA will be added at somepoint down the road.

justinjsw

Here we go again. IMA, SHAWD, V8 its all coming in due time. Honda is an infant compared to the big boys in the business. Next vehicle due for showrm floors the RDX...codename CUV.

And with all infants, there will be growing pains.

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Most intriguing...

ClutchPerformer

I'll believe it when I see it.

dom

+ 1

sauceman

V8 + IMA + SHAWD = Me

mg7726

stop drooling on the next NSX

gocubsgo55

and

Oh and as for the V8, SH-AWD stuff, and IMA, I believe all 3, just a matter of time. I hope Honda gets the early SH-AWD jitters out of the way and is able to put it onto the TL. The TSX needs IMA in terms of an alternative, no v6 please (that's what a TL is for). And that V8, let's have 2; 1 4.3L rated at 350 Hp and 310 Lb./Ft. of Torque...

and a 4.4L V8 with 400 Hp @ 8,400 RPM and 330 Lb./ft. of Torque @ 4,000 RPM
>Redline of 8,600
>i-VTEC
>Midship design with the best 6MT the world has EVER seen
>Plenty of Carbon Fiber
>Please, no SH-AWD, weighs too much and gets the true sportiness out of the car.

iNteGraz92

i don't know who said it's a e500/545 killer, but it the RL wedges quite nicely between the german sixes and v8s.

members78

i want the new bmw m5. who do i have to kill to own that beast?

ClutchPerformer

Me! I saw it first!!!

CGTSX2004

iTrader: (1)

Or you could try a dealer rep as he's showing you the car.

members78

you just moved to the top of the list of people i need to kill. watch ur back!

dom

Someone's dreaming in techna color.

teg_to_bike

...and when I see it, I probably still won't believe it! I figure with IMA, Honda has a good enough excuse to never build a V8. RL's 3.5 V6 + IMA = 350ish hp? 300ish ft/lb torque? That should get the 0-60 time around 6.0.

I've noticed Clutch has been using a lot.

heyitsme

I agree. Ima plus v6 already should push any v8 power Honda would ever need for a sedan and thats the reason I think Honda developing a V8 now, so damn late in the game (should have had one in 1990) would be a complete waste of money.

When I see, I'll laugh at Honda for building it. Powertrains are changing, Toyota is already moving fast towards their goal of all hybrids by 2012, Honda should too.

heyitsme

So who does that market to? People who can't make up their minds?

phile

You get, for the time being, a 3.2L V6 for the E Class, a 3.0L for the 530i, a 3.2L for the A6...meanwhile, the V8 engines are larger and much more powerful. The RL's 3.5L does indeed fit nicely in that medium, until the Mercedes gets the 3.5L, and the Infiniti comes out.

heyitsme

Doesn't sound like a safe place, mercedes will be there, with the new 3 series showing a powerful v6 engine I'd definately expect the 5-series to be there, infiniti will be there and they don't care who shows up, lexus with not be there, haha, and cadillac will be there. 300 on the surface sounds great, but thats paper, these other rwd only cars are lighter and can put out greater times with less hp.

phile

Well, that is another branch of discussion; I was merely answering your inquiry. The other automakers will indeed up the ante, and indeed I expect them to be faster...but in reality, they sell cars that are much power expensive. I don't expect them to beat the RL's 0-60 time by a whopping 2 seconds or more, but mere fractions of a second. They'll reserve those incredible 0-60 times for the S-Class and others, not for the E-Class, etc. Not for this price range.

phile

Just saw the RL commercial on NBC. I must say, seeing it in motion, it has road presence, moreso than what the online pictures can suggest. I didn't recognize it when the commercial started, kinda caught me off guard (having heard about it, but never seeing it, I had completely forgotten the RL has a commercial).

I have yet to see one in real life, though.

Belzebutt

The same C&D where the RL review was in also had a review of the new A6 4.2. The 4.2 V8 has 330 hp, but Audi expect that 90% of sales will be the V6, which as I recall was about 270 hp.

So the RL already beats 90% of the new A6's, I'd say that's pretty damn good.

SirWaWa

braking doesn't look so good