Buying Used - 2015 TLX V6 Base vs 2016 Accord EX-L Navi/Sense V6
#41
Team Owner
Your reading skills suck.
Why do you think that the 2018 S4 will have a " slower and more dimwitted shifting" ZF again? The reason is that people enjoys a more smoother transmission than the clunky DCTs. I never dove a DSG / S-Tronic that I found butter-smooth.. Regular automatics are smoother and the "millisecond" pretext is irrelevant,, barely perceptible if any.
I owned two Accord EX-L. They are fine cars but you'll miss that chic factor of your old Acura.
Why do you think that the 2018 S4 will have a " slower and more dimwitted shifting" ZF again? The reason is that people enjoys a more smoother transmission than the clunky DCTs. I never dove a DSG / S-Tronic that I found butter-smooth.. Regular automatics are smoother and the "millisecond" pretext is irrelevant,, barely perceptible if any.
I owned two Accord EX-L. They are fine cars but you'll miss that chic factor of your old Acura.
#42
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#43
Senior Moderator
Yall arguing on subjectivity
#44
Moderator
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Accord.
Saintor, why are you still here?
Saintor, why are you still here?
#45
Azine Jabroni
Newer car, more options, but less comfortable. Go Accord. I like the TLX more than most here, but I like the number of options you can get on the Accord more.
#46
I'm on a budget and need to replace an older car. I can get a used 2016 Accord Sedan EX-L w/ Navi/Honda Sense V6 (<10K miles) for around just over $26K OTD, or I can get a used 2015 TLX V6 Base w/ 32K miles for around $27K-$28K?
The TLX would be certified, so I believe I'd have another 21 months/18K miles left on the factory warranty, plus the extra 12 month/12K miles certified warranty for a total of 33 months/30K more miles left.
The Honda is not certified but it has 29 months/27.5K miles left on it's warranty.
I originally am trying to stick to a $25K budget and the Honda reallly does fit the bill at somewhere just north of $26K OTD. What are all of your impressions?
I actually really wanted a used RDX, but to fit the bill, I'd have to get a base 2WD 2014 model to get close to my budget....reason for the RDX is so I can put a hitch on for my 4-bike hitch rack. On the Accord/TLX, I may have to resort to getting another roof rack or put a smaller hitch on them (so ugly).
The TLX would be certified, so I believe I'd have another 21 months/18K miles left on the factory warranty, plus the extra 12 month/12K miles certified warranty for a total of 33 months/30K more miles left.
The Honda is not certified but it has 29 months/27.5K miles left on it's warranty.
I originally am trying to stick to a $25K budget and the Honda reallly does fit the bill at somewhere just north of $26K OTD. What are all of your impressions?
I actually really wanted a used RDX, but to fit the bill, I'd have to get a base 2WD 2014 model to get close to my budget....reason for the RDX is so I can put a hitch on for my 4-bike hitch rack. On the Accord/TLX, I may have to resort to getting another roof rack or put a smaller hitch on them (so ugly).
#47
I'm on a budget and need to replace an older car. I can get a used 2016 Accord Sedan EX-L w/ Navi/Honda Sense V6 (<10K miles) for around just over $26K OTD, or I can get a used 2015 TLX V6 Base w/ 32K miles for around $27K-$28K?
The TLX would be certified, so I believe I'd have another 21 months/18K miles left on the factory warranty, plus the extra 12 month/12K miles certified warranty for a total of 33 months/30K more miles left.
The Honda is not certified but it has 29 months/27.5K miles left on it's warranty.
I originally am trying to stick to a $25K budget and the Honda reallly does fit the bill at somewhere just north of $26K OTD. What are all of your impressions?
I actually really wanted a used RDX, but to fit the bill, I'd have to get a base 2WD 2014 model to get close to my budget....reason for the RDX is so I can put a hitch on for my 4-bike hitch rack. On the Accord/TLX, I may have to resort to getting another roof rack or put a smaller hitch on them (so ugly).
The TLX would be certified, so I believe I'd have another 21 months/18K miles left on the factory warranty, plus the extra 12 month/12K miles certified warranty for a total of 33 months/30K more miles left.
The Honda is not certified but it has 29 months/27.5K miles left on it's warranty.
I originally am trying to stick to a $25K budget and the Honda reallly does fit the bill at somewhere just north of $26K OTD. What are all of your impressions?
I actually really wanted a used RDX, but to fit the bill, I'd have to get a base 2WD 2014 model to get close to my budget....reason for the RDX is so I can put a hitch on for my 4-bike hitch rack. On the Accord/TLX, I may have to resort to getting another roof rack or put a smaller hitch on them (so ugly).
#48
Ex-OEM King
Your reading skills suck.
Why do you think that the 2018 S4 will have a " slower and more dimwitted shifting" ZF again? The reason is that people enjoys a more smoother transmission than the clunky DCTs. I never dove a DSG / S-Tronic that I found butter-smooth.. Regular automatics are smoother and the "millisecond" pretext is irrelevant,, barely perceptible if any.
I owned two Accord EX-L. They are fine cars but you'll miss that chic factor of your old Acura.
Why do you think that the 2018 S4 will have a " slower and more dimwitted shifting" ZF again? The reason is that people enjoys a more smoother transmission than the clunky DCTs. I never dove a DSG / S-Tronic that I found butter-smooth.. Regular automatics are smoother and the "millisecond" pretext is irrelevant,, barely perceptible if any.
I owned two Accord EX-L. They are fine cars but you'll miss that chic factor of your old Acura.
Also, news flash, most chicks don't care about cars. Buying a nice car is more likely to attract dudes than girls.
#49
Senior Moderator
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^ I think he actually meant chic... like how he spelled it. Not chick how you did...
Chic | Define Chic at Dictionary.com
Chic | Define Chic at Dictionary.com
#50
Banned
^ I think he actually meant chic... like how he spelled it. Not chick how you did...
Chic Define Chic at Dictionary.com
Chic Define Chic at Dictionary.com
#51
Team Owner
#52
iWhine S/C 6MT TL
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Some people are just afraid to be afraid., Running on 87 makes you lose 10HP at 6400rpm or so. This is the same engine as in the Pilot 2016 spec'ed 280HP on regular instead of 290HP on premium. Big deal.
No matter how you slice it, the Accord is less of a nice car and the OP is used to a manual Acura, with more luxurious fit and finish.
And AFAIK the TLX has paddles, NOT the Accord, I use them every single day....
No matter how you slice it, the Accord is less of a nice car and the OP is used to a manual Acura, with more luxurious fit and finish.
And AFAIK the TLX has paddles, NOT the Accord, I use them every single day....
Going against the recommended octane Acura Engineers say to use, and claiming it has zero long term effects, yet you use the paddle shifters as if it's a race car? So, using regular but hitting the paddles because race car?
Regardless of what the discussion is, you're opinion isn't valid. Simply because, you're a TLX fanboy and will always hold the TLX higher than any other vehicle produced.
Not for nothing, you lost all credit on claiming to know what true performance is but use regular.
You also made a post about why you're only getting 17 MPG on your TLX
https://acurazine.com/forums/fifth-g...-17mpg-941025/
Seriously..?
Last edited by 04WDPSeDaN; 01-26-2017 at 07:30 PM.
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#54
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Going against the recommended octane Acura Engineers say to use, and claiming it has zero long term effects, yet you use the paddle shifters as if it's a race car? So, using regular but hitting the paddles because race car?
Regardless of what the discussion is, you're opinion isn't valid. Simply because, you're a TLX fanboy and will always hold the TLX higher than any other vehicle produced.
Not for nothing, you lost all credit on claiming to know what true performance is but use regular.
You also made a post about why you're only getting 17 MPG on your TLX
https://acurazine.com/forums/fifth-g...-17mpg-941025/
Seriously..?
Regardless of what the discussion is, you're opinion isn't valid. Simply because, you're a TLX fanboy and will always hold the TLX higher than any other vehicle produced.
Not for nothing, you lost all credit on claiming to know what true performance is but use regular.
You also made a post about why you're only getting 17 MPG on your TLX
https://acurazine.com/forums/fifth-g...-17mpg-941025/
Seriously..?
BTW, you make zero sense.. specially on an ACURA enthusiasts website. WTF are you doing here.
#55
iWhine S/C 6MT TL
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I don't care if your MPG is back to normal, I'm not the one who made a post about the concern.
Unlike yourself, I have knowledge with Acura's and not only Acura's but most of the automotive industry. I also did the performance modifications on my own vehicles.
It takes some real knowledge to go F/I and understand the concept of what happens to fuel trims ect. The day you get your hands dirty and understand how things actually work, is the day I take your posts serious. Til then you're input is simply one of a fanboy.
Last edited by 04WDPSeDaN; 01-26-2017 at 08:32 PM.
#56
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#57
iWhine S/C 6MT TL
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#58
The accord looks like the sensible buy in terms of features and mileage, but if I had the chance I would take the TLX any day. It simply feels different. If you are getting the Accord, get the touring.
Yes, Acura's not an MB or a Bimmer but it has its charm. I know the Acura cars are not selling very well these days, but I love them.
Yes, Acura's not an MB or a Bimmer but it has its charm. I know the Acura cars are not selling very well these days, but I love them.
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F23A4 (02-03-2017)
#59
no more Touring option....but RDX?
Well, have to throw away the 2016 Accord Touring as an option because I was not successful in getting the dealer to drop that price down so it's more in line with the selling price of the EX-L w/ Navi/Sense. I'd be paying $4k more to go from the 8500 mile EX-L Nav/Sens to the 21000 mile Touring. So I just need to check out the EX-L tonight to make sure it is as clean as they say it is.
But let's drop another choice. What I really wanted was some sort of RDX since it would be more practical to throw a 2" receiver hitch and my Kuat 4-bike tray on it to move my mountain bikes around. Roof racks suck and if got the Accord, I'd end up needing a roof rack (mileage killer),.
So we'll set the Accord aside now.
I have negotiated like craze with all the Acura dealers in my area for a CPO 2014 RDX 2WD w/ Tech....most of the ones around here will have 30K/35K miles on them....but with the CPO warranty, I'll still have like 20-24 months left of warranty and 26K-34K miles to go. With that, would you say that $2000 more would be a good bargain? My original budget was $25K....the Accord can be had for around $26K....2014 RDX around $28-$29K.....
Or maybe I put a 1.25" hitch on the Accord and buy a couple of 1UpUSA racks.....hitch on a sedan looks so tacky.....
Gotta make a decision quick...I don't think the Accord will last through the weekend though.....
My problem is the RDX is already like 3 years old...and just seems a little out dated when compared to the Accord.
But let's drop another choice. What I really wanted was some sort of RDX since it would be more practical to throw a 2" receiver hitch and my Kuat 4-bike tray on it to move my mountain bikes around. Roof racks suck and if got the Accord, I'd end up needing a roof rack (mileage killer),.
So we'll set the Accord aside now.
I have negotiated like craze with all the Acura dealers in my area for a CPO 2014 RDX 2WD w/ Tech....most of the ones around here will have 30K/35K miles on them....but with the CPO warranty, I'll still have like 20-24 months left of warranty and 26K-34K miles to go. With that, would you say that $2000 more would be a good bargain? My original budget was $25K....the Accord can be had for around $26K....2014 RDX around $28-$29K.....
Or maybe I put a 1.25" hitch on the Accord and buy a couple of 1UpUSA racks.....hitch on a sedan looks so tacky.....
Gotta make a decision quick...I don't think the Accord will last through the weekend though.....
My problem is the RDX is already like 3 years old...and just seems a little out dated when compared to the Accord.
#60
Banned
OP, why don't you consider leasing?
TLX V6 2017 are about $278 / $2510 down or $342 effective / 39mo.
Accord EX-L V6 2017 are a bit more expensive about $346 / $2146 down or $405 / 36mo
Purchasing an used $25K car won't come much cheaper than this if any.
TLX V6 2017 are about $278 / $2510 down or $342 effective / 39mo.
Accord EX-L V6 2017 are a bit more expensive about $346 / $2146 down or $405 / 36mo
Purchasing an used $25K car won't come much cheaper than this if any.
#61
Team Owner
Well, have to throw away the 2016 Accord Touring as an option because I was not successful in getting the dealer to drop that price down so it's more in line with the selling price of the EX-L w/ Navi/Sense. I'd be paying $4k more to go from the 8500 mile EX-L Nav/Sens to the 21000 mile Touring. So I just need to check out the EX-L tonight to make sure it is as clean as they say it is.
But let's drop another choice. What I really wanted was some sort of RDX since it would be more practical to throw a 2" receiver hitch and my Kuat 4-bike tray on it to move my mountain bikes around. Roof racks suck and if got the Accord, I'd end up needing a roof rack (mileage killer),.
So we'll set the Accord aside now.
I have negotiated like craze with all the Acura dealers in my area for a CPO 2014 RDX 2WD w/ Tech....most of the ones around here will have 30K/35K miles on them....but with the CPO warranty, I'll still have like 20-24 months left of warranty and 26K-34K miles to go. With that, would you say that $2000 more would be a good bargain? My original budget was $25K....the Accord can be had for around $26K....2014 RDX around $28-$29K.....
Or maybe I put a 1.25" hitch on the Accord and buy a couple of 1UpUSA racks.....hitch on a sedan looks so tacky.....
Gotta make a decision quick...I don't think the Accord will last through the weekend though.....
My problem is the RDX is already like 3 years old...and just seems a little out dated when compared to the Accord.
But let's drop another choice. What I really wanted was some sort of RDX since it would be more practical to throw a 2" receiver hitch and my Kuat 4-bike tray on it to move my mountain bikes around. Roof racks suck and if got the Accord, I'd end up needing a roof rack (mileage killer),.
So we'll set the Accord aside now.
I have negotiated like craze with all the Acura dealers in my area for a CPO 2014 RDX 2WD w/ Tech....most of the ones around here will have 30K/35K miles on them....but with the CPO warranty, I'll still have like 20-24 months left of warranty and 26K-34K miles to go. With that, would you say that $2000 more would be a good bargain? My original budget was $25K....the Accord can be had for around $26K....2014 RDX around $28-$29K.....
Or maybe I put a 1.25" hitch on the Accord and buy a couple of 1UpUSA racks.....hitch on a sedan looks so tacky.....
Gotta make a decision quick...I don't think the Accord will last through the weekend though.....
My problem is the RDX is already like 3 years old...and just seems a little out dated when compared to the Accord.
Before you purchase a car, you need to decide on your priorities first, or you will end up liking everything.
How often do need to carry your bikes? if often, then maybe you should not have looked at "cars" in the first place and finda reasonable small SUV.
I think you should get a CR-V EX.
If not often, then you are not getting a good car because you need to carry your bike once or twice a year?
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#62
Ex-OEM King
Well, have to throw away the 2016 Accord Touring as an option because I was not successful in getting the dealer to drop that price down so it's more in line with the selling price of the EX-L w/ Navi/Sense. I'd be paying $4k more to go from the 8500 mile EX-L Nav/Sens to the 21000 mile Touring. So I just need to check out the EX-L tonight to make sure it is as clean as they say it is.
But let's drop another choice. What I really wanted was some sort of RDX since it would be more practical to throw a 2" receiver hitch and my Kuat 4-bike tray on it to move my mountain bikes around. Roof racks suck and if got the Accord, I'd end up needing a roof rack (mileage killer),.
So we'll set the Accord aside now.
I have negotiated like craze with all the Acura dealers in my area for a CPO 2014 RDX 2WD w/ Tech....most of the ones around here will have 30K/35K miles on them....but with the CPO warranty, I'll still have like 20-24 months left of warranty and 26K-34K miles to go. With that, would you say that $2000 more would be a good bargain? My original budget was $25K....the Accord can be had for around $26K....2014 RDX around $28-$29K.....
Or maybe I put a 1.25" hitch on the Accord and buy a couple of 1UpUSA racks.....hitch on a sedan looks so tacky.....
Gotta make a decision quick...I don't think the Accord will last through the weekend though.....
My problem is the RDX is already like 3 years old...and just seems a little out dated when compared to the Accord.
But let's drop another choice. What I really wanted was some sort of RDX since it would be more practical to throw a 2" receiver hitch and my Kuat 4-bike tray on it to move my mountain bikes around. Roof racks suck and if got the Accord, I'd end up needing a roof rack (mileage killer),.
So we'll set the Accord aside now.
I have negotiated like craze with all the Acura dealers in my area for a CPO 2014 RDX 2WD w/ Tech....most of the ones around here will have 30K/35K miles on them....but with the CPO warranty, I'll still have like 20-24 months left of warranty and 26K-34K miles to go. With that, would you say that $2000 more would be a good bargain? My original budget was $25K....the Accord can be had for around $26K....2014 RDX around $28-$29K.....
Or maybe I put a 1.25" hitch on the Accord and buy a couple of 1UpUSA racks.....hitch on a sedan looks so tacky.....
Gotta make a decision quick...I don't think the Accord will last through the weekend though.....
My problem is the RDX is already like 3 years old...and just seems a little out dated when compared to the Accord.
#63
Why are you so set on a Honda product? I have seen you mention multiple times how certain cars or certain things seem old based on year, but fail to realize or acknowledge the fact that current 2017 Acuras have infotainment setups that are about a decade behind the current automotive trend.
IMHO you should go look at alternative brands and then you will be truly impressed with what is going on with cars these days. Not that anything is particularily wrong with going with the Accord or RDX or TLX (which by the way it is obvious to me that you want a crossover, so not sure why you are even looking at cars) just that you really can stretch your dollar a lot more with other brands and in most cases come out with much more solid vehicles with more solid tech.
IMHO you should go look at alternative brands and then you will be truly impressed with what is going on with cars these days. Not that anything is particularily wrong with going with the Accord or RDX or TLX (which by the way it is obvious to me that you want a crossover, so not sure why you are even looking at cars) just that you really can stretch your dollar a lot more with other brands and in most cases come out with much more solid vehicles with more solid tech.
#64
Azine Jabroni
Why are you so set on a Honda product? I have seen you mention multiple times how certain cars or certain things seem old based on year, but fail to realize or acknowledge the fact that current 2017 Acuras have infotainment setups that are about a decade behind the current automotive trend.
IMHO you should go look at alternative brands and then you will be truly impressed with what is going on with cars these days. Not that anything is particularily wrong with going with the Accord or RDX or TLX (which by the way it is obvious to me that you want a crossover, so not sure why you are even looking at cars) just that you really can stretch your dollar a lot more with other brands and in most cases come out with much more solid vehicles with more solid tech.
IMHO you should go look at alternative brands and then you will be truly impressed with what is going on with cars these days. Not that anything is particularily wrong with going with the Accord or RDX or TLX (which by the way it is obvious to me that you want a crossover, so not sure why you are even looking at cars) just that you really can stretch your dollar a lot more with other brands and in most cases come out with much more solid vehicles with more solid tech.
#65
Burning Brakes
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OP, if it helps you with pricing, I paid $26,750 OTD for a new 2016 Accord EX-L with the sensing/navi package back in late 2015. I am curious how much these dealers are trying to sell the new ones to you for? You're about to buy a used one for the almost the same price I got a new one for. My buddy got the same exact car for 28k OTD. I even know a guy who scored a brand new touring coupe for 30k OTD.
#66
OP, if it helps you with pricing, I paid $26,750 OTD for a new 2016 Accord EX-L with the sensing/navi package back in late 2015. I am curious how much these dealers are trying to sell the new ones to you for? You're about to buy a used one for the almost the same price I got a new one for. My buddy got the same exact car for 28k OTD. I even know a guy who scored a brand new touring coupe for 30k OTD.
#67
Team Owner
Try a different dealer? you usually have to work with at least 3 different dealers to get an idea what is a "reasonable" price.
Truecar is a good starting point but the actual market price is usually lower than Truecar but of course require negotiation.
Truecar is a good starting point but the actual market price is usually lower than Truecar but of course require negotiation.
#70
Team Owner
You already got the car? Then that is all it matters. The transaction is over, now just enjoy the car.
#71
even for the CVT, what you paid was an excellent price. Figure $2k difference in MSRP between CVT and V6. But your buddy's Touring price is great to since that's already a V6.
#72
Maybe take it to Honda to have a look... But I think that's just how it is. Between min and Max subwoofer setting....I hear no difference.
#73
Senior Moderator
Sounds like a new aftermarket sub and potentially an amp to power it is in your near future
What do you think your dealer is going to do?
What do you think your dealer is going to do?
#74
Banned
My biggest beef with the car is the stereo really stinks...