Best tire set for 500?
12-11-2018, 02:02 PM
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Best tire set for 500?
I am just looking to spend about 500 on a set of tires. 600 tops. I was looking at some performance tires at first, but then realized they only last about 30k miles in my price range. Then I was thinking, well, I don't really need high performance tires. I do go fast a lot, but I only have 200hp, probably less at the wheels.
So can you guys please mention your favorite tire? Something that will get about 100k miles of spirited driving in a slow tsx?
So can you guys please mention your favorite tire? Something that will get about 100k miles of spirited driving in a slow tsx?
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12-11-2018, 02:03 PM
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100,000 miles on a set of tires...?
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12-11-2018, 02:06 PM
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Yeah, gotta shoot high! 2 years length would be okay. My grandma keeps swearing that she has had her tires for three years, but she lives in the country and drives slow and never leaves town. I live in the city and haul ass. haha
12-11-2018, 02:27 PM
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Doubtful to pull 100k on a set. My dad has been able to get 50-60k on a set of Michelin LTX on his trucks, and the Pilot Sport AS3+ on our Flex have a healthy set of miles on them, installed in June 2017 at 75,600 miles. Closing in on ~95k now.
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12-11-2018, 02:27 PM
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You're not getting 100k miles out of a set of tires unless they are made of iron. Good luck.
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12-11-2018, 02:29 PM
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2 years will be easy depending on how many miles you drive. If grandma only put on 300-500 miles a month she could have went years without new tires. I go through a set of tires every 12-18 months but I also average 20-25k miles a year in driving and have a summer performance tire on the car. Everything is relative to how you use it. We need more information.
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12-11-2018, 02:32 PM
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You also don't mention where you live. Can you get away with summer tires year round or is an all-season tire better?
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12-11-2018, 02:49 PM
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Thank you guys for the quick and precise replies. This is why I love this forum.
I live in Dallas, Texas. It only snows or gets icy about 1 time a year. BUT it does get pretty cold and windy, and It rains A LOT. People are starting to call it Seattle, Texas.
I could probably get away with summer tires all year since we don't have winters like yall have up north.
So I need something that can grip in the rain pretty good. The Michelin tires that came with it grip amazingly, but they are about on their last limb.
I live in Dallas, Texas. It only snows or gets icy about 1 time a year. BUT it does get pretty cold and windy, and It rains A LOT. People are starting to call it Seattle, Texas.
I could probably get away with summer tires all year since we don't have winters like yall have up north.
So I need something that can grip in the rain pretty good. The Michelin tires that came with it grip amazingly, but they are about on their last limb.
12-11-2018, 04:05 PM
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Probably Primacy MXV4, or whatever they're called now. The Pilot Sport AS3+ is a great tire, IMO. But you're unlikely to get a set installed for $500. I think the 20" on our Flex ran a bit over $800 installed.
12-11-2018, 04:57 PM
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OP, I've had great luck with Conti DWS tires though I doubt you'd get them for less than $500 installed. Check out tirerack.com for pricing and reviews. I think most people on this site will gravitate towards higher end more expensive tires just because of the benefits they bring.
12-17-2018, 12:44 PM
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Thank you guys for the quick and precise replies. This is why I love this forum.
I live in Dallas, Texas. It only snows or gets icy about 1 time a year. BUT it does get pretty cold and windy, and It rains A LOT. People are starting to call it Seattle, Texas.
I could probably get away with summer tires all year since we don't have winters like yall have up north.
So I need something that can grip in the rain pretty good. The Michelin tires that came with it grip amazingly, but they are about on their last limb.
I live in Dallas, Texas. It only snows or gets icy about 1 time a year. BUT it does get pretty cold and windy, and It rains A LOT. People are starting to call it Seattle, Texas.
I could probably get away with summer tires all year since we don't have winters like yall have up north.
So I need something that can grip in the rain pretty good. The Michelin tires that came with it grip amazingly, but they are about on their last limb.
12-17-2018, 12:55 PM
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Try dialing up the tire pressure; yes, this will make the ride firmer, but it should also stabilize the tires in the corners. FWIW, I've found about 40 front and 38 rear gives my TL very predictable handling.
12-17-2018, 01:57 PM
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If tire longevity is a key factor I'd get some all seasons for sure. Summer tires don't last that long to begin with.
OP, I've had great luck with Conti DWS tires though I doubt you'd get them for less than $500 installed. Check out tirerack.com for pricing and reviews. I think most people on this site will gravitate towards higher end more expensive tires just because of the benefits they bring.
OP, I've had great luck with Conti DWS tires though I doubt you'd get them for less than $500 installed. Check out tirerack.com for pricing and reviews. I think most people on this site will gravitate towards higher end more expensive tires just because of the benefits they bring.
12-17-2018, 03:47 PM
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I am happy to get 15-20k out of my continentals extreme sports on my caddy so I hear your. I get 5k out of my TSX tires only though. 
12-17-2018, 03:48 PM
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Wow, you guys must love buying new tires. I expect an easy 50,000 miles from my tires.
12-17-2018, 03:56 PM
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Depends on the tires, the car, and your driving habits. Really sticky summer tires with a high powered RWD car driven with enthusiasm will definitely find you looking for new rear tires every 15k miles or less. Normal all seasons on an average soccer mom SUV driven like...well...a soccer mom will probably go 40k-50k easily.
12-17-2018, 04:37 PM
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Depends on the tires, the car, and your driving habits. Really sticky summer tires with a high powered RWD car driven with enthusiasm will definitely find you looking for new rear tires every 15k miles or less. Normal all seasons on an average soccer mom SUV driven like...well...a soccer mom will probably go 40k-50k easily.
12-17-2018, 07:50 PM
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My friend is a mechanic and I described the symptoms that my tire is showing. He said that it is definitely poor balancing. Let's hope that its that..
12-17-2018, 07:59 PM
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I finally figured out last year that with the kind of driving I do (prioritized for mpg) it was simply idiotic to keep buying performance tires like I always have. I know, I know, duh! So given that I actually came to realize what my real priorities in a tire are, I decided to just go with the absolute cheapest set of All-Seasons I could find when I bought my last set of 4 back in July and I've been really happy with them thus far! I called around and found that Kauffman had the best deal at the time and walked out the door with all 4 installed and ready to drive for $377 (235/50R18). I know that's not the absolute BEST deal there is, but I needed them that day and locally so they are what I settled on. I've already put nearly 20k miles on them since July and the tread wear is holding up much better than my previous G-Force 2's did.
Speaking of tread wear, I've always known that the driven tires wear faster than the non-driven ones but I remain surprised at how much faster my rears always wear on my Genesis, despite the fact that I granny it around absolutely 100% of the time! I mean, I always accelerate slowly from a stop, keep my speed at or below 60 mph (even on the Interstate) and yet the rears still wear almost twice as fast as the fronts! What causes that? Is it just because even at steady throttle cruise there's so much more wear from the driven wheels maintaining that speed?
Speaking of tread wear, I've always known that the driven tires wear faster than the non-driven ones but I remain surprised at how much faster my rears always wear on my Genesis, despite the fact that I granny it around absolutely 100% of the time! I mean, I always accelerate slowly from a stop, keep my speed at or below 60 mph (even on the Interstate) and yet the rears still wear almost twice as fast as the fronts! What causes that? Is it just because even at steady throttle cruise there's so much more wear from the driven wheels maintaining that speed?
12-17-2018, 08:10 PM
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Depends on the tire size too.
Michelin has a nice warranty for treadwear on their tires. So if you don't get the full rated amount out of them, they'll reimburse you towards a new set of Michelins.
Michelin has a nice warranty for treadwear on their tires. So if you don't get the full rated amount out of them, they'll reimburse you towards a new set of Michelins.
12-17-2018, 08:26 PM
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The thing is, one can drive like a complete maniac on modern all season tires and A) not chirp or squeal a tire and B) still get fifty-thousand miles out of them. Unless one is tracking a car, does one really need the extra ten to twenty percent of grip from sticky summer rubber?
I keep trying to get my Michelin Premier tires to squeal under hard cornering but I just haven't gotten them to... For a 215/55/17 they stick like glue...
RDX will go full on tail out without warning on it's Bridgestones... It can be a little scary...
12-17-2018, 08:31 PM
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Good PSI, IMO...
Mozzo Sport tires on my TL did fine...
I pusehed that car SUPER hard a few times and it remained predictable throughout the thrash!
In fact... Went and found some new twisties... Had a blast... It's been too long....
Living on the coast sucks when it comes to back roads... Unless you hunt them down...
Matt... Have fun on those huge interstate ramps!
I love D-Town!
12-17-2018, 08:34 PM
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Yeah Dallas road are sick! At night time whenever the roads are clear, I can really haul ass. The cops don't fuck with you here unless you get in a wreck. I go 120 and weave around cars. NOW I CANT DO THAT SHIT THO because my tires suck!!!! Fingers crossed that it is just bad balancing!!!
12-17-2018, 09:37 PM
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Yeah Dallas road are sick! At night time whenever the roads are clear, I can really haul ass. The cops don't fuck with you here unless you get in a wreck. I go 120 and weave around cars. NOW I CANT DO THAT SHIT THO because my tires suck!!!! Fingers crossed that it is just bad balancing!!!
Link to old 3gen Ramblings thread... I have pictures throughout page 1014. Went there from Shreveport for one afternoon, stayed in Irving by 114 that night, then went and stopped in Tyler for one night... What's the deal with Tyler, anyways?
Then drove back to Mississippi, about one hour south of Jackson in a rural town of 10K.
Living on the coast right now looking for work, but I could just as easily live in Jackson... It's much nicer...
I had been wanting to go back since 2011... I love plane spotting so Burger King south of Love feild and Founders Plaza at DFW are my spots!
I even managed to not get lost given I hadn't been there since I was 14!
Now Fort Worth is a different wirld... OMG it was a HOT wind in October, and I swear, I though I was in New Mexico or something....
Temps that day, 10/9/2017, were 97°/47°, I think... Cold front came through...
My favorite part of town is the Plano/Garland area!
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12-18-2018, 04:05 AM
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12-18-2018, 10:16 AM
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The thing is, one can drive like a complete maniac on modern all season tires and A) not chirp or squeal a tire and B) still get fifty-thousand miles out of them. Unless one is tracking a car, does one really need the extra ten to twenty percent of grip from sticky summer rubber?
That said, the big advantage (for me) of all seasons is that the weather here in MN is so ADD that one day it might be 65 and sunny and the next it's 20 and snowing. That doesn't bode well for both summer or winter tires.
12-18-2018, 10:27 AM
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I've found that all season tires have a very small gap between no chirping and out of control whereas summer tires let you know well in advance of them letting go. That, to me, is the big advantage of going with summer tires.
That said, the big advantage (for me) of all seasons is that the weather here in MN is so ADD that one day it might be 65 and sunny and the next it's 20 and snowing. That doesn't bode well for both summer or winter tires.
That said, the big advantage (for me) of all seasons is that the weather here in MN is so ADD that one day it might be 65 and sunny and the next it's 20 and snowing. That doesn't bode well for both summer or winter tires.
12-18-2018, 10:43 AM
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From a Californian:
what is weather?
what is weather?
12-18-2018, 12:01 PM
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why does it feel like this guy is 21 and not 31...
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12-18-2018, 12:30 PM
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Interesting, I've pushed and pushed and pushed all season tires on numerous cars and have never noticed anything but a progressive break away. Regarding your comment about ADD weather; yeah, here in New Hamster we have the same thing, winter tires suck big time when weather suddenly goes from ten degrees one day to fifty-five the next. Then there is the whole summer time thing, we've seen temperatures drop from a high in the nineties one day to into the mid twenties the next night, and this in August. I know a lot of folks say All-Season tires = No-Season tires, but in my case, they are pretty much the only option.
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The point is having the right tires for the right conditions and matching your driving style accordingly. Summer tires are not track tires, that's a whole different category entirely. I will never run all seasons in the winter, I'd be ok running all seasons in the summer and do for the wife's car. However having summer tires in the summer is the best option for me. I just take it easy if it's cold out and I'm running summer tires.
12-18-2018, 01:27 PM
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12-18-2018, 01:45 PM
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Interesting, it is both snowier and hillier here in New Hamster than pretty much anywhere in Minnesota. When I had my 530i SP, I had no option but to use a set of winter wheels/tires as the 8% grade on our driveway was all but impossible in anything deeper than a quarter inch of snow; unfortunately, the car was not at all tacked down when the typical mid-winter thaw hit and temperatures climb above sixty degrees. With my TL the all-season tires have proven more than sufficient until the snow gets up to about four inches, and beyond that, I just work from home.
12-18-2018, 01:48 PM
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Can't say I've driven on any tires, winter tires or not, which inspire any degree of confidence on ice; this includes the Michelin X-Ice tires on my last car.
12-18-2018, 10:44 PM
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So why do you think my car wobbles and shakes now? Poor balancing? It is really freaking me out, and I have not had time to go back to the tire shop.