Legend2TL

My dad had a accident in his 2000 Accord SE, he's OK despite both airbags deploying. Likely is it's totaled and I starting asking him what he wanted to replace it. He was very happy with his Accord so he wants another. So....

anyone here purchase a 2011 Accord lately and if so, what model, price, color combo, ....

Put in some internet dealer request in this morning at work so I'm curious what folks are finding out there.

With Accord sales down almost 1/3 from a year ago, according to Edmunds the price should be below invoice and closer to invoice - holdback?

Thanks in advance

gatrhumpy

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Definately use the sales volume to your advantage. Good luck!

alex2364

I'm guessing sales are down because of supply problems with the earthquake from Japan. Didn't Shoofin say all Japanese cars are selling higher because of supply problems?

Legend2TL

I believe almost all of the Accord is made in the states. The main components I believe that are from Japan are mostly electrical and electronic.

Ken1997TL

I believe the transmissions are made in Japan. You kinda need one to have a car

Legend2TL

The Accord transmission is made in USA. This sticker says 80% US and Canadian content.
I thought alot of the other 20% is mostly electronics from Japan.

MR1

Honda eliminated most if not all incentives at least a few weeks ago. Most auto manufactures are doing the same. Parts supply problems are affecting most of them. Supplies are tight and prices are up. Sorry and good luck.

Ken1997TL

I stand corrected, that must have changed in the past few years.

Carraway

There's been a rise in demand, both on the new and used market, after the severe drop over the last couple of years. That and a lot of dealers have taken advantage of supply issues and played on people's concerns.

At any rate, I have not purchased a 2011 Accord, but I have driven one. Depending on what your father likes about the 2000, make sure he drives a 2011 before purchasing. A lot has changed.

I would like to test drive a 6cyl Accord Coupe with a manual, particularly to see if it still has the character of the older Hondas, but no dealers within 100 miles of me will stock one.

pttl

I haven't purchased one but I drove an 2011 LX for an entire day. As Carraway said...be sure he drives it enough to be sure. The seats fels very uncomfortable to me.

Legend2TL

Yeah I agree with the test drive or two. I haven't driven a latest generation Accord so i'm curious what the newer larger model is like. Not thrilled about the quality of the interior but this is also my parents car so their input is what's important.

My mom would prefer a CRV but my Dad wants a Accord. I pretty impartial to either although the CRV may be more practical for them.

alex2364

CR-V will be redesigned later this year. Might want to wait for that if you're serious about it.

Legend2TL

Yeah, I thought of that but my parents went down to one car last fall so they need to purchase fairly soon.

Moog-Type-S

No offense to your pops, but why an Accord?

Sure his Accord was a segment leader back in the day, but today the Accord is at the back of the pack.

With so many fantastic & quite a bit better options in this segment, he would be foolish not to shop the rest of the bunch......more than likely he will come to the conclusion that there are many makes that far exceed the 2011 Accord....and much better warranties to boot.

csmeance

I bought a 2010 model about a year and a half ago and got it for close to invoice pricing. The accord is a great car but it's grown quite a bit in volume since the 2000 model. In all honesty I would suggest you look into a bit of an upgrade for your dad that's the same size like a 2007-2008 Acura TL. He'll enjoy the upgrades here and there, it fits into your budget, is close to the size of the 2000 Accord and is very safe!

Plus he'll appreciate the tape deck in the car!

black label

Edmunds won't sell you a car so what they say is useless.

The fact is Honda dealers are screwed right now. The cars barely exist and they are starting you at sticker and working down slightly from there. You won't get anyone's attention talking about invoice and holdback. They need to make up the lack of overall profits by increasing the gross profit per unit. The dealership I work at (until tomorrow when I resign from the car business entirely) sells about 300 cars per month, primarily new cars. We have less than 100 new Hondas in inventory right now and that won't be increasing in the foreseeable future. In fact with the volume of cars coming in vs the volume of cars going out, our on the ground inventory will be decreasing slightly every day with no way to recover from it. Honda is also increasing MSRP and destination charges across the board for all cars being built.

If your dad wants a big discount off of MSRP, he most likely won't be buying a Honda. If he really wants an Accord, he'll have to accept the fact that a good deal on a Honda right now will be a higher price than a good deal on a Honda 2 months ago.

pttl

What's next?

007Acura

try truecar.com to see what others have been paying.

If he wants to save some $$$ he could get a low mileage pre-owned/cpo 2008+ well equipped and it isn't much different than the 2011.

black label

A step back to move forward. I spent years working in Human Services helping the the physically and mentally disabled. The schedule will allow me to go back to school for to be formally trained as a locksmith.

Part of the decision is based on the state of the industry the other part is that I feel I need to escape so I don't end up one of those 70 year old guys who are still selling cars.

Legend2TL

He's had incredible reliability with all his Honda's so that's the main reason. The other is simplicity of use, he knows how easy they are to operate. He's in his 80's and does not want alot of gadgets and gizmo's.

None the less, I will take him to look at and probably also test drive a Sonata. I had one for a week in Hawaii couple years ago for a week and it performed pretty well.

One thing that's been mentioned here is the lack of comfortable front seats in the new Accords so I'll be sure we seat in them more than just a 5 minutes.

Legend2TL

I'm going the email/internet route for the moment checking prices, so far I've gotten back a email quote for a SE model at $21618 which is below invoice.

If my parents decide on a CRV my guess is pricing will not be as good since CRV's are in high demand.

I was just using Edmunds to get a rough idea of what the market was like.

Shopping for cars using the internet and email makes it a whole lot easier. Economy is still pretty rough so I suspect the Accord prices will be the prime factor over the CRV.

Legend2TL

Wise move, education is a smart move.

Moog-Type-S

Then he may not like the massive amount of redundant buttons on the Accord dash.

Street Spirit

Hate the look of the current gen sedan -- like the coupe. If I wanted the sedan, I'd be looking at generations past vs. now... or a different car altogether.

Legend2TL

True, the 8G Accord center stackup with w/o Nav is far more complicated than a 6G.

Moog-Type-S

"Hey Pops, take a look at this brand new 2012 Passat TDI !"

Legend2TL

Not gonna happen, it's a great car but getting my dad to consider a CRV is a life changing event for him

JS + XES

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AZuser

This thread might help --> www . drive accord . net/forums/showthread.php?t=13996

jchan2

My dad tried to buy a '11 Accord EX-L about a month ago but hit a wall on pricing. The internet price we got was in the ballpark, but the dealer tried to low-ball us on our trade-in.

He ended up with a Sonata instead- the competition out there is fierce; after testing the Sonata he found it to be a better car than the Accord in his opinion, but he started with the Accord initially because it was a Honda and we've had good experiences with them over the years.

Legend2TL

Thanks

black label

It would be great if the OP ran into this situation since there would be no trade to low ball and they'd be stuck at the price the emailed.

black label

Legend2TL,

It may actually be in your benefit to tell the dealer that you are trading in dads old Accord (I know it's totalled, hear me out). They may offer a lower price on the new car with the intention of ripping your trade to compensate for the low selling price. In the end you can just tell them that you sold it to a neighbor. They will have a very hard time raising the selling price of the new car just because you aren't trading anything in as it blows their credibility and could lead to a customers relations issue for them.

When a dealer rips a trade, the put it on the books at it's ACV (actual cash value) but show you a lower number. Essentially you put it on the books at $8000, but only give the customer $7000 for it, the extra $1000 goes to the gross profit.

F23A4

I've driven an 08 and 09 Accord EX-L V6 sedan and while I feel it's generally a well built car, the only advantage I feel it has over my old 07 AV6 EX-L interior and trunk space.

That said (and IMHO), I can state that neither the new 8G nor my old 7G are nearly as comfortable (nor likeable) as my old 99 Accord LX sedan.

Going back to the sticker above, the new Accord has some great gas mileage.

Legend2TL

You were right about Honda supply. All the dealers told the same story with allocation being short especially on Japanese models. Dealing was more challenging than I thought. My parents wound up with a Civic LX we negotiated to about midway between MSRP and invoice. Arriving later this week.

Four years ago I was able to get my brother's Civic down to less than invoice and above holdback. The Accord was too big for them and their garage (too much other stuff in it).