Saintor

I have a soft spot for the Caddy CTS, either the V-Sport (420HP) or the real V (640HP). Unsure that if I would trust its long term reliability. Good review here (2017).

One Week With: 2017 Cadillac CTS Vsport | Automobile Magazine

juniorbean

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Oft-overlooked car. I'd rock one...

TacoBello

I'm considering an ats-v, also... it's on my short list. I'm just nervous about piloting a 480hp rwd car, in the winter, regardless of how good of winter tires I can buy. But yeah, otherwise, what a sick car through and through. And the discounts on them are nuts.

SamDoe1

This is also my concern but snow tires are pretty good getting you around and you just have to be more judicious with your right foot in the slippery stuff is all.

The discounts are always huge on these because no one buys them.

justnspace

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I wonder why tho? the lead up to the new ATS-V and CTS-V were going great! then all of a sudden sedan sales fell off the cliff.
well, i guess i answered my own question.

that's why their building a CUV-V

BreezyTL

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covfefe?

justnspace

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they're*

I find that I misspell that a lot.

BreezyTL

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CUV-V
covfe-fe

justnspace

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understood.
but I misspelled their.there.they're.
I think i did it twice in this thread, and when you quoted it...the misspelling jumped out at me (sorry off topic, I know)

SamDoe1

Of course they are. A CTS-V wagon with a 3" lift would sell 100000x as many units.

juniorbean

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Are they really?

I always said they should have done an SRX-V or XT5-V. Be curious to see where they go with this...

justnspace

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it was tongue in cheek; but why not? it'd be a cool idea

TacoBello

If Jeep can build the trackhawk...

Joneill44

My friend Doug just drove one. He said they are crazy fast

dudeitsroman

lexus isf
cadillac ctsv
dodge charger
bmw 335 535 550 m5
goes on

KaMLuNg

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^^^ this guy is genius, listen to him...

2 months after i bought the Vagon last year, i scored a set of used winter wheels... it had blizzaks with a few seasons on them but more than half tread... granted we had a mild winter last year but the snow tires definitely give you confidence when there is anything on the ground... at first i was also intimidated, holy crap 550+ hp in a RWD car in the snow... but you get used to it quick... just use your brain, use your throttle wisely and take corners cautiously... you will be fine... in the rain i have had the vagon kick out while making a turn on all season tires... the computers kick in very quickly to correct but just don't be dumb because the car isn't as forgiving...

the saying is true though... after one season with the Vagon, i'd take RWD with snow tires over an AWD with A/S...

Chief F1 Fan

AWD w/ Blizzaks

kurtatx

Audi RS3

SamDoe1

Yup, you can spin out a S2000 with sticky summer tires in bone dry warm conditions.

Key words for driving anything: Don't be an idiot.

juniorbean

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Got me. Thought they announced something that I missed.

Did some searching and nothing on the radar. I've been wanting this for years now, but I guess it's not a big loss. The Cayenne GTS is still on the top of my list for a high-performance SUV anyway. Doubt I'd shift to Caddy even if they offered one...

KaMLuNg

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ahem

https://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehic...model-GLE63W4S

justnspace

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holy shit, the horsepower wars is alive and well.
fuck sedans!

juniorbean

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Don't worry, the GLE AMG is a close second. You know I'm a Mercedes guy... but I do miss my Porsche and that V8 GTS is just yummy...

TylerT

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This.

If summer tires aren't fully warmed up .. they might as well be hockey pucks.

SamDoe1

Try driving on them when it's 35 out, you can do burnouts in the S through third gear.

Rick_TL-S

ISF wouldn't be bad. Plenty of reliable stories about them, & their only issue is they suffer from the good ol' Lexus labor rates (like the TL does for Acura in comparison to Honda). They also have been holding their value a lot better as well, so it's a solid car to keep in the long run. There's still plenty of demand for Lexus to bring it back.

I would not agree with the Dodge or BMW.

mrmako

I'm thinking a lightly used A4, maybe 2014 with a 6MT?

kurtatx

220 hp isn't great, but you get a nice interior

imj0257

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^ With no USB port...

oonowindoo

Any car mentioned above will be an upgrade for you in both performance and technology.

340i
C43
S4
400RS
GSF/RSF
440GC
Stinger GT

TheChamp531

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Have a GS350 UL and I love it personally. Handling can be slightly fixed with the F-Sport package, but I enjoy my 15 mile commute a lot better than the TL even though I use the TL more for that commute.

mrmako

Sure, but a few mods can get it to 325+HP on stock internals. That would make it sporty, or maybe 260-280HP with a stage 1 re-flashed ECU. I mean, you're not getting much warranty at this year/price point so why not

imj0257

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And STILL no USB port.

mrmako

THIS...... Now that I think about it. Screw Audi and no USB port.

oonowindoo

really Audi has no USB port? how do i charge my phone?

svtmike

imj0257

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Seriously...even the newest Audi's don't have USB ports.. I THINK the 2018 model has one but not sure on that, but 99% sure 2017 and prior don't have them. U can use a cigarette lighter charger, but can't play music from your phone.

Audi has their own Euro system. You can rig it by hooking up some old school 2000s PC cable to a connection in the glovebox. IMO way too ghetto .. if I spend the money for a car like that I expect USB ports..

SamDoe1

Yes they do. I had a 2017 A4 as a rental and there were two normal USB-A ports under the armrest and another two in the back seat. This is how you hook up to Apple CarPlay/Android Auto. There may be more but I didn't look around all that much.

TacoBello

I was gonna say... can't you stream music through Bluetooth anyway?

#1stworldproblems

imj0257

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Then they must have just added it in 2017.
Yes but the sound quality sucks.