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Long story short, I'm coming from a 2008 TLS & wifey from a 2006 TSX.



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When the wifey test drove the S3, she fell in love with it. Happy wife, happy life. The Lexus IS 350 F Sport was close but the Nike emblem kinda turned her off. She tried the ILX but she thought it was a downgrade from the 2006 TSX.

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Originally Posted by nothome17
When the wifey test drove the S3, she fell in love with it. Happy wife, happy life. The Lexus IS 350 F Sport was a close but the Nike emblem kinda turned her off. She tried the ILX but she thought it was a downgrade from the 2006 TSX.
Your wife is a smart woman. The ILX is a downgrade from the TSX

Congrats on both your rides!
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Nice, man!! I love both of those cars!
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Are you sure I can't interest you in a fantastic, 2017 TLX?
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Are you sure I can't interest you in a fantastic, 2017 TLX?
Honestly, I almost went for the 2015 2.4 ILX but the looks didn't grow on me. Part of me wanted to stay with Acura but I just couldn't do it.

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Honestly, I almost went for the 2015 2.4 ILX but the looks didn't grow on me.
I think that the S3 has a lot going for it styling-wise, but I' ll leave this here, for the record.

TLX V6 / S3
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Originally Posted by Saintor
I think that the S3 has a lot going for it styling-wise, but I' ll leave this here, for the record.

TLX V6 / S3
5-60 5.8s / 5.6s
observed mpg 27 (EPA 21/34) / 23 (EPA 19/27)
Clearly, the TLX was too large.

Also, not sure where you're getting your times, but the Audi S3 is a 4.4 0-60. So it's not close.

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Clearly, the TLX was too large.

Also, not sure where you're getting your times, but the Audi S3 is a 4.4 0-60. So it's not close.
5-60 was initially published by Car&Driver and then used by other publications, as a better representation of real-life. 0-60 in 4.4s is a fraud unless you are prepared to constantly abuse the powertrain.
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Originally Posted by Saintor
5-60 was initially published by Car&Driver and then used by other publications, as a better representation of real-life. 0-60 in 4.4s is a fraud unless you are prepared to constantly abuse the powertrain.
Here's a picture of the tail light when my wifey passes you up. I'm just messing Saintor Just for laughs

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Originally Posted by nothome17
When the wifey test drove the S3, she fell in love with it.
+1 on who has the more refined taste in your family (LOL) !!

Admittedly I'm biased: just last week I pulled the trigger on the purchase of a low-mileage 2015 Audi A5 2.0T coupe (to arrive here any day now) as a step forward-in-time from the stock 2003 Acura 3.2CL-S 6MT that's been my daily driver for the past 11 years. It will be sad saying goodbye to the 6-speed CL-S because it's been such a great driver's car, but the deal on the A5 I found was too just good to pass up.... I'd been looking at both the 4-cyl A5 and the 6-cyl S5 Audi 2-doors for a couple of months, not really in any hurry, and meanwhile half of me was thinking, should I just have the 14-year old CL-S professionally repainted instead(?) ... but that would've meant being without wheels for 3- or 4-weeks.

No regrets on your wife's part, I trust ?

Best wishes to both of you !

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+1 on who has the more refined taste in your family (LOL) !!

Admittedly I'm biased: just last week I pulled the trigger on the purchase of a low-mileage 2015 Audi A5 2.0T coupe (to arrive here any day now) as a step forward-in-time from the stock 2003 Acura 3.2CL-S 6MT that's been my daily driver for the past 11 years. It will be sad saying goodbye to the 6-speed CL-S because it's been such a great driver's car, but the deal on the A5 I found was too just good to pass up.... I'd been looking at both the 4-cyl A5 and the 6-cyl S5 Audi 2-doors for a couple of months, not really in any hurry, and meanwhile half of me was thinking, should I just have the 14-year old CL-S professionally repainted instead(?) ... but that would've meant being without wheels for 3- or 4-weeks.

No regrets on your wife's part, I trust ?

Best wishes to both of you !

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Thanks for the +1, wifey works hard. Every now and then you want to see results from your hard work in life. Can't forget though, live within what you can afford, balance.
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Your wife is a smart woman. The ILX is a downgrade from the TSX
This. Nice choices both. Enjoy!
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Originally Posted by Saintor
5-60 was initially published by Car&Driver and then used by other publications, as a better representation of real-life. 0-60 in 4.4s is a fraud unless you are prepared to constantly abuse the powertrain.

Don't listen to Saintor. He has an absolute hate for turbo engines. Just looking into it, the S3 puts out a bit more horsepower (290@6200 vs 306@5600rpm) and more torque (267@4500rpm vs 295 @2000-5400rpm).. Yes, that's right Saintor. The S3 delivers more power, earlier in the power band, in both respects, as compared to the TLX, but the car itself is also a couple hundred pounds lighter, helping it hit 0-60 even faster,

car and driver got 4.4s 0-60. You can call that "beating the shit out of the drive train and power train", but that's what these guys do... For ALL cars.
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Don't listen to Saintor. He has an absolute hate for turbo engines. Just looking into it, the S3 puts out a bit more horsepower (290@6200 vs 306@5600rpm) and more torque (267@4500rpm vs 295 @2000-5400rpm).. Yes, that's right Saintor. The S3 delivers more power, earlier in the power band, in both respects, as compared to the TLX, but the car itself is also a couple hundred pounds lighter, helping it hit 0-60 even faster,

car and driver got 4.4s 0-60. You can call that "beating the shit out of the drive train and power train", but that's what these guys do... For ALL cars.
You've gotta love how he comes into threads having NOTHING to do with the TLX and still finds ways to derail it. You also gotta love how everytime his points are proven to be completely bullshit he deflects and quickly drops them acting like they don't matter. Case in point "beating shit out of powertrain" when what he said was proven to be bullshit. Or earlier today where you were telling him Acura's cost more to repair and he tells you prove it, you prove it and he then goes "that's expected of upper brands".....just wow.




Sorry OP. Congratulations I am absoluteky in love with the new S3, I can't believe how much is has grown up! Also loving the WRX very much. Looks amazing.
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The WRX is a beautiful car also. I remember when people cried foul when they released the current gen, complaining it didn't look enough like the concept. Personally, I think people were just expecting waaaaay too much and I do really like the car they did end up releasing. I think the body looks fantastic.
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Originally Posted by TacoBello
Don't listen to Saintor. He has an absolute hate for turbo engines
Don't to TB, he has no clue and is making noise for nothing, as usual.

5-60mph has a raison d'être and IS the representative measurement for acceleration, real-life.

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The WRX is a beautiful car also. I remember when people cried foul when they released the current gen, complaining it didn't look enough like the concept. Personally, I think people were just expecting waaaaay too much and I do really like the car they did end up releasing. I think the body looks fantastic.
The Subaru community has a love/hate relationship with this current gen. They didn't like the fact that they don't have a hatch version and just a little bigger body style. Also, I'm getting used to the Subaru wave as other drivers give you a wave on the road and talk to you on whats your next mod is in the parking lot.
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The WRX is a beautiful car also. I remember when people cried foul when they released the current gen, complaining it didn't look enough like the concept. Personally, I think people were just expecting waaaaay too much and I do really like the car they did end up releasing. I think the body looks fantastic.
The only issue for me with the new WRX and STi is the lack of hatchback. The previous version was t1ts in terms of looks in hatchback form.

Nice choices though OP, both are great cars!
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5-60 was initially published by Car&Driver and then used by other publications, as a better representation of real-life. 0-60 in 4.4s is a fraud unless you are prepared to constantly abuse the powertrain.
Dyno or stfu.
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I as well am looking to going to Subaru for my next car. OutBack mostly likely.
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I as well am looking to going to Subaru for my next car. OutBack mostly likely.
The Outbacks are nice to. If they would of brought the Forester (sti) over from down under, I might of gave it a try. The STI version was just suspension upgrades.

Good timing to have the WRX, best snow season in Northern Cali thus far. Just make sure you have snow tires.


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Shame the Forester XT isn't available with a manual anymore.
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Shame the Forester XT isn't available with a manual anymore.
Shame, the Forester design is so good right now.
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Congratulations on both vehicles! They are both beautiful and amazing! At one point, I wanted a 2013 S4, I test drove a S4 Prestige 6MT, it was fun to drive and the AWD system was amazing! My wife looked into the S3, but was too small for her. She had a thing for an ML63 2012+, we saw and test drove 15 of them, super fun SUV with insane power, but overall a bit overkill for us. Now she wants to drive the C43 and the GLE43. I wouldn't pull the trigger on either one til they come down on prices. Keep me posted on the real world impression's on the S3, I still have <3 for them.
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S3 looks awesome. The WRX was on my shortlist, but I ended up with a 17 Accord Sport. Couldn't pass up the styling, fuel economy, price and 0.9 financing.

Just turned 1700 miles and my to/from work is highway so I'm more comfortable to wring it out a little bit (they say 600 mile break in period, but I waited a bit longer).... I'm pleasantly surprised and extremely satisfied with that little 4 banger and CVT. Highway passing is more than adequate (don't get me wrong, it's no TL) but an additional 25-35hp would be nice.... however, 325 miles per tank is pretty impressive too (mixed driving, ECON off).

Tint, LED headlight bulbs and I'm set. Constant compliments on the car, especially the wheels.

Good of luck with both new rides.... can't go wrong with either!
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S3 looks awesome. The WRX was on my shortlist, but I ended up with a 17 Accord Sport. Couldn't pass up the styling, fuel economy, price and 0.9 financing.

Just turned 1700 miles and my to/from work is highway so I'm more comfortable to wring it out a little bit (they say 600 mile break in period, but I waited a bit longer).... I'm pleasantly surprised and extremely satisfied with that little 4 banger and CVT. Highway passing is more than adequate (don't get me wrong, it's no TL) but an additional 25-35hp would be nice.... however, 325 miles per tank is pretty impressive too (mixed driving, ECON off).

Tint, LED headlight bulbs and I'm set. Constant compliments on the car, especially the wheels.

Good of luck with both new rides.... can't go wrong with either!
Thanks, the wifey has told me that she's been getting a lot of compliments on the car. Wifey is getting jealous lol...

WRX, wanted a car that I can had enough power, handle off roads and battle the elements. Thought about a truck but I'm not at that phase yet in my life. Will see down the road.

The Accord is nice too but if only my travels was a less harsh. Everyone has different needs.
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The Accord is nice too but if only my travels was a less harsh. Everyone has different needs.
Totally. I was testing the TLX and the 430i, and while I liked both of them overall, the seats and ride just weren't as comfortable as the Audi.
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I think that the S3 has a lot going for it styling-wise, but I' ll leave this here, for the record.

TLX V6 / S3
5-60 5.8s / 5.6s
observed mpg 27 (EPA 21/34) / 23 (EPA 19/27)

I would love to know where you get your info..

C&D test for both

2015 TLX SH-AWD

2015 Acura TLX V-6 SH-AWD Test ? Review ? Car and Driver

0-60 5.8
0-100 14.1
0-130 21.7
5-60 6.2

1/4 mile 14.2 at 100 mph

2015 Audi S3

2015 Audi S3 Sedan Instrumented Test ? Review ? Car and Driver

0-60 4.4
0-100 10.8
0-130 19.7
5-60 5.6

1/4 mile 12.9 at 108 mph


It's not even close, it's immediately tail lights for the TLX with the S3 pulling away increasingly....

C&D beat the crap of all of their cars in testing, turbo or not turbo.


Congrats to the OP, we have a manual WRX in the family and it is a very sweet little machine indeed, great value for the money for a little sport sedan.
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I forgot to add, only 1 mpg of real world fuel consumption difference between the TLX and the S3, 24 mpg vs. 23
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I would love to know where you get your info..

C&D test for both

2015 TLX SH-AWD

2015 Acura TLX V-6 SH-AWD Test ? Review ? Car and Driver

0-60 5.8
0-100 14.1
0-130 21.7
5-60 6.2

1/4 mile 14.2 at 100 mph

2015 Audi S3

2015 Audi S3 Sedan Instrumented Test ? Review ? Car and Driver

0-60 4.4
0-100 10.8
0-130 19.7
5-60 5.6

1/4 mile 12.9 at 108 mph


It's not even close, it's immediately tail lights for the TLX with the S3 pulling away increasingly....

C&D beat the crap of all of their cars in testing, turbo or not turbo.


Congrats to the OP, we have a manual WRX in the family and it is a very sweet little machine indeed, great value for the money for a little sport sedan.

Thank you for posting this. It's the same exact results I found as well. Understand where it's coming from. Saintor isn't a real enthusiast, nor does he understand what performance is, let alone that there are vehicles other than the TLX ( & Acura) on the road.

Still very impressive numbers for the S3. APR already has performance modifications for the S3. That's the best thing about most German vehicles, there are companies out there that can push these vehicles to the limit, without spending a ton of money.

Here is the link to APR Products for the S3
https://www.goapr.com/products/index.php?v=A3&vg=3
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I would love to know where you get your info..

C&D test for both

2015 TLX SH-AWD

2015 Acura TLX V-6 SH-AWD Test ? Review ? Car and Driver

0-60 5.8
0-100 14.1
0-130 21.7
5-60 6.2

1/4 mile 14.2 at 100 mph

2015 Audi S3

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0-60 4.4
0-100 10.8
0-130 19.7
5-60 5.6

1/4 mile 12.9 at 108 mph


It's not even close,
Closer than you think in real-life. You are delusional; how many times a month do you either drop clutch from 4000rpm (manual) or hold brake pedal rev to 2500-3000rpm, release it (automatics)? Be honest and just say; "it almost never happens".

You didn't look hard enough obviously.
2015 Acura TLX 3.5 V-6 FWD Test ? Review ? Car and Driver

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 13.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 24.2 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.8 sec <---- that's the one worth looking for.
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 3.1 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.7 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.2 sec @ 103 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 134 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 182 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad*: 0.83 g

FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway: 21/34 mpg
C/D observed: 27 mpg

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