View Poll Results: Accord/Stinger/Other
Accord Touring 2.0T
16
40.00%
Kia Stinger Premium RWD
14
35.00%
Other - Explain
10
25.00%
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Accord Touring, Stinger Premium, or ?
03-08-2018, 02:51 PM
#1
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Thread Starter
Accord Touring, Stinger Premium, or ?
Depending on trade values, I may be looking at getting out of the F150 in the near future. Of the stuff I've looked at, the Stinger & Accord sit on the short list.
Main requirements are 4 doors, good space for 2 car seats, mid-20s or higher MPG combined, reliable, nothing over about $40k OTD, fun to drive.
Have searched long & far for a W205 C-class, but they're out of my budget or de-contented from what I would want.
The Fusion Sport was a bit disappointing, my F150 feels quicker with the same engine. Also had a disappointing amount of back seat room, my 3 yr old's feet were touching my seat, whereas she had a lot more room in the Stinger. Haven't had them in the Accord, but it's a cavern in the back, nearly rivals my crew cab F150 for space.
The Accord is the top of the trim Touring 2.0T, where the Stinger would be the RWD Premium 2.0T, so a few small content differences between the two.
Off the top of my head, the Accord get the HUD, wireless charging, ventilated front seats, heated back seats, adaptive suspension. It's also about $4k cheaper based on MSRP (37,500 vs 41,000). Biggest disappointment is not being able to get the Touring in Obsidian Blue with Black leather; which would likely put me in white or gray.
Stinger has a bigger sunroof, RWD, and is a more engaging drive. But, it's also pushing the top of our budget. It's also lacking a bit in the color department (only 4 available on the Premium) on the 2.0T models.
Not in any rush, and actually a little curious to see what the '19 Stinger may offer, but from looking around online, it looks like wireless charging & 360 camera may be the only additions; neither of which are a big deal to me. On;y other new car I've thought of is the new Mazda6 Turbo, but no idea when those will start landing on dealer lots.
The 2 Stingers I've driven, that salesmen were quick to point out that the Stinger competes with cars like the 4GC, A7, Panamera, when I mentioned that I'd be cross shopping the Accord against it. I don't really care, as I'm not in the market for a BMW/Porsche/Audi & on paper they are specced similarly (power/price/features)
Any others I've missed?
Main requirements are 4 doors, good space for 2 car seats, mid-20s or higher MPG combined, reliable, nothing over about $40k OTD, fun to drive.
Have searched long & far for a W205 C-class, but they're out of my budget or de-contented from what I would want.
The Fusion Sport was a bit disappointing, my F150 feels quicker with the same engine. Also had a disappointing amount of back seat room, my 3 yr old's feet were touching my seat, whereas she had a lot more room in the Stinger. Haven't had them in the Accord, but it's a cavern in the back, nearly rivals my crew cab F150 for space.
The Accord is the top of the trim Touring 2.0T, where the Stinger would be the RWD Premium 2.0T, so a few small content differences between the two.
Off the top of my head, the Accord get the HUD, wireless charging, ventilated front seats, heated back seats, adaptive suspension. It's also about $4k cheaper based on MSRP (37,500 vs 41,000). Biggest disappointment is not being able to get the Touring in Obsidian Blue with Black leather; which would likely put me in white or gray.
Stinger has a bigger sunroof, RWD, and is a more engaging drive. But, it's also pushing the top of our budget. It's also lacking a bit in the color department (only 4 available on the Premium) on the 2.0T models.
Not in any rush, and actually a little curious to see what the '19 Stinger may offer, but from looking around online, it looks like wireless charging & 360 camera may be the only additions; neither of which are a big deal to me. On;y other new car I've thought of is the new Mazda6 Turbo, but no idea when those will start landing on dealer lots.
The 2 Stingers I've driven, that salesmen were quick to point out that the Stinger competes with cars like the 4GC, A7, Panamera, when I mentioned that I'd be cross shopping the Accord against it. I don't really care, as I'm not in the market for a BMW/Porsche/Audi & on paper they are specced similarly (power/price/features)
Any others I've missed?
03-08-2018, 04:18 PM
#2
Hold off and wait for Genesis G70 and see how that fits? I suppose G80 is out of price range?
03-08-2018, 04:31 PM
#3
Going from a car to a truck back to a car?
The new Accord grew on me. Mostly anything new from Honda has to grow on me. Wasn't a fan of the Pilot when it came out, now I kind of like it. The Ody as well. It's growing on me.
Get WOP (White Orchard Pearl) Accord then get it wrapped. Win/Win.
The new Accord grew on me. Mostly anything new from Honda has to grow on me. Wasn't a fan of the Pilot when it came out, now I kind of like it. The Ody as well. It's growing on me.
Get WOP (White Orchard Pearl) Accord then get it wrapped. Win/Win.
03-08-2018, 04:48 PM
#4
Moderator
Thread Starter
Going from a car to a truck back to a car?
The new Accord grew on me. Mostly anything new from Honda has to grow on me. Wasn't a fan of the Pilot when it came out, now I kind of like it. The Ody as well. It's growing on me.
Get WOP (White Orchard Pearl) Accord then get it wrapped. Win/Win.
The new Accord grew on me. Mostly anything new from Honda has to grow on me. Wasn't a fan of the Pilot when it came out, now I kind of like it. The Ody as well. It's growing on me.
Get WOP (White Orchard Pearl) Accord then get it wrapped. Win/Win.
Always been more of a car guy. Wanted to keep the Civic & get an ND Miata prior to the truck. We got the F150 out of necessity for my wife's business.Need to find an OB Touring & see how the gray interior is in person. At least it's not tan
Once we get back from vacation, I'll have to try to get an extended drive in both again & see which suits me best. Then it's just down to numbers at the point.
03-08-2018, 04:52 PM
#5
Ex-OEM King
I'd personally go Accord. If nothing else, the resale values for the Kia (especially non-GT) will be abysmal.
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03-08-2018, 05:12 PM
#8
Moderator
Thread Starter
The rattles are gone so far from the sunroof. Still a lingering squeak over rough pavement. Much less frequent than it was before.
03-08-2018, 05:14 PM
#9
03-08-2018, 05:14 PM
#10
Azine Jabroni
I would go Stinger. Fun for days.
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Shadow2056 (03-10-2018)
03-08-2018, 08:13 PM
#12
Vagon?
Does vehicle need to be new?
Does vehicle need to be new?
03-09-2018, 07:27 AM
#13
It may stretch your budget a little bit, but you may be able to get the V6 Stinger for a lot cheaper than you think. They had (still have?) an incentive running where if you leased it you got almost 7k off from the manufacturer. You figure you can negotiate at least another 2k off and that should put you at the low 40's for a GT2 V6. After one year they would allow you to refinance and buy the car (roughly 1k in fees here).
I don't know how much you drive, but the Stinger also comes with a 10 year/100k powertrain warranty on top of the 5 year/60k bumper-to-bumper.
You live in Texas, you deserve to have a RWD car!
I don't know how much you drive, but the Stinger also comes with a 10 year/100k powertrain warranty on top of the 5 year/60k bumper-to-bumper.
You live in Texas, you deserve to have a RWD car!
03-09-2018, 09:03 AM
#14
You can likely find a 2012 with 50k miles or so (maybe a little more) in the $40k range. Maybe not now as the market is picking up... but definitely after summer ends.
If it has to be new/newer... what about a Charger Scat Pack or something? Should be able to pick up a 2017 left over or demo for $35k or so...
03-09-2018, 09:46 AM
#15
Team Owner
everything about the accord is brand spanking new. New engine. New transmission. New body. There's nothing tried and tested about it, besides the name.
03-09-2018, 09:48 AM
#16
Team Owner
You can likely find a 2012 with 50k miles or so (maybe a little more) in the $40k range. Maybe not now as the market is picking up... but definitely after summer ends.
If it has to be new/newer... what about a Charger Scat Pack or something? Should be able to pick up a 2017 left over or demo for $35k or so...
03-09-2018, 09:51 AM
#17
You can likely find a 2012 with 50k miles or so (maybe a little more) in the $40k range. Maybe not now as the market is picking up... but definitely after summer ends.
If it has to be new/newer... what about a Charger Scat Pack or something? Should be able to pick up a 2017 left over or demo for $35k or so...
That is at the top of my list.... Got 11 more months.
Already have the mods planned for it.
03-09-2018, 11:38 AM
#18
Safety Car
I wouldn't buy the Stinger new. I've seen Kia get hurt pretty badly on resale and I don't expect anything different from the Stinger.
You'll always be fighting depreciation on a new car, but I think the Kia will be especially hard hit.
You'll always be fighting depreciation on a new car, but I think the Kia will be especially hard hit.
03-09-2018, 12:22 PM
#20
Turd Polisher
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Scatpack.
03-09-2018, 12:32 PM
#21
Banned
C&D got only an observed 19mpg in a Stinger 2.0 AWD. . Although probably the same powertrain, would prefer the G70. I sat on both and I have the feeling that the Genesis will still look fresh in 5 years and the Kia will age badly.
As for the Accord, competent ... ok if you want to save money.
As for the Accord, competent ... ok if you want to save money.
03-09-2018, 12:34 PM
#22
CTS-V was easily in the 20s as far as MPG range highway. Not so much so around town 
Guess it depends how often he wants good fuel economy 
I'll be looking for a N/A cruiser in the next 12 to 18 months (basically by next summer) and it's on my list as well. Only thing that concerns me... don't hate me all... but what concerns me is that it's a Dodge...
Guess it depends how often he wants good fuel economy I'll be looking for a N/A cruiser in the next 12 to 18 months (basically by next summer) and it's on my list as well. Only thing that concerns me... don't hate me all... but what concerns me is that it's a Dodge...
03-09-2018, 01:19 PM
#23
CTS-V was easily in the 20s as far as MPG range highway. Not so much so around town Guess it depends how often he wants good fuel economy
I'll be looking for a N/A cruiser in the next 12 to 18 months (basically by next summer) and it's on my list as well. Only thing that concerns me... don't hate me all... but what concerns me is that it's a Dodge...
Guess it depends how often he wants good fuel economy I'll be looking for a N/A cruiser in the next 12 to 18 months (basically by next summer) and it's on my list as well. Only thing that concerns me... don't hate me all... but what concerns me is that it's a Dodge...
03-09-2018, 01:52 PM
#24
Yeah... I've been checking the forums doing some homework as well. We also have a pretty big LX club here in Charlotte so I'll get to talk to them at our next meet... so I've been feeling pretty good about reliability. Question will remain if I want to deal with Dodge dealers for service... then again we have an awesome one not too far from Charlotte for that (Steve White Motors)... so I may be OK. Definitely will cost less to maintain than the other car I'm looking at (2013/2014 Porsche Cayenne GTS)...
03-09-2018, 02:01 PM
#25
Safety Car
Not an unfair statement at all. Obviously no disrespect who own FCA products, many on here as members, but FCA/Dodge are still at the bottom tier for reliability/quality. It's a legitimate concern.
03-09-2018, 02:05 PM
#26
Team Owner
I prefer the Stinger exterior.
I prefer the Accord interior.
I prefer the RWD layout of the Stinger.
I prefer a fully optioned out car, over a lower trim car (even if they're equally equipped... it's just nice knowing you've got the most badass version of said car). For that, the Accord gets the nod over the Stinger.
If it is a car OP wants to keep for many years, depreciation shouldn't be as much of a concern. Or... just wait under a year from now and buy used. I dunno. I can't really buy a car and worry about what it's worth when I want to get rid of it and no longer care for it. While it is nice to retain as much value as possible, I wouldn't be one to lose sleep over a 5k difference, five years down the line. Especially if the car was really good during that ownership period.
To to be honest, I'd have a hard time objectively choosing one over the other. Where one suffers, the other shines. It would really come down to how each one of them drives... and for that, only OP can decide which he prefers.
I prefer the Accord interior.
I prefer the RWD layout of the Stinger.
I prefer a fully optioned out car, over a lower trim car (even if they're equally equipped... it's just nice knowing you've got the most badass version of said car). For that, the Accord gets the nod over the Stinger.
If it is a car OP wants to keep for many years, depreciation shouldn't be as much of a concern. Or... just wait under a year from now and buy used. I dunno. I can't really buy a car and worry about what it's worth when I want to get rid of it and no longer care for it. While it is nice to retain as much value as possible, I wouldn't be one to lose sleep over a 5k difference, five years down the line. Especially if the car was really good during that ownership period.
To to be honest, I'd have a hard time objectively choosing one over the other. Where one suffers, the other shines. It would really come down to how each one of them drives... and for that, only OP can decide which he prefers.
03-09-2018, 02:08 PM
#27
Safety Car
I'd lean towards the new Accord 2.0T, with the potential tuning options...the thing that could turn off some people is that it's FWD...but as a main daily with sporty moments here and there....to me it's the winner.
Huge kudos for KIA to bring out the Stinger, but as others said depreciation and potential 1st year issues on a brand new model is a concern. Subjectively, I'm not a fan of the Stinger front end at all to be honest....
Huge kudos for KIA to bring out the Stinger, but as others said depreciation and potential 1st year issues on a brand new model is a concern. Subjectively, I'm not a fan of the Stinger front end at all to be honest....
03-09-2018, 03:10 PM
#28
Team Owner
Why would there not be tuning options for the Kia?
The Accord and Stinger Premium both come with a 2.0T, putting out similar numbers. If there's tuning options for one, there'll be tuning options for the other. Errrbody always wants mo' powah!!
The Accord and Stinger Premium both come with a 2.0T, putting out similar numbers. If there's tuning options for one, there'll be tuning options for the other. Errrbody always wants mo' powah!!
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Vossen Wheels (03-13-2018)
03-09-2018, 09:23 PM
#30
Team Owner
Stinger because you will see many Accords every day while you drive yours and get annoyed.
<---Drives a Camry and used to get annoyed but now that the car is 6 years old don't give a shit anymore.
<---Drives a Camry and used to get annoyed but now that the car is 6 years old don't give a shit anymore.
03-10-2018, 04:45 AM
#31
Safety Car
<<looks up new accord interior photos
first thought. Holy fuck, thats an accord!? Second thought. That’s wayyy too nice for Uber drivers.
IDK. Personally I would much rather have an F150 over the two. Or a new Ranger when it comes out.
but between the two, if this were your commuter car / daily, you may get tired driving an accord amongst so many other accord owners. And you may also regret getting the stinger without the better engine. Wasn’t that the whole point of the stinger? Either way, you’re fucked
i do really like that whole back door lease scam that someone else mentioned regarding the stinger gt2. Lol. Just the whole idea of beating the system would have me stretching for the GT2. Besides, if it seems like a lemon or reliability is suspect, then don’t buy it out of the lease.
first thought. Holy fuck, thats an accord!? Second thought. That’s wayyy too nice for Uber drivers.
IDK. Personally I would much rather have an F150 over the two. Or a new Ranger when it comes out.
but between the two, if this were your commuter car / daily, you may get tired driving an accord amongst so many other accord owners. And you may also regret getting the stinger without the better engine. Wasn’t that the whole point of the stinger? Either way, you’re fucked
i do really like that whole back door lease scam that someone else mentioned regarding the stinger gt2. Lol. Just the whole idea of beating the system would have me stretching for the GT2. Besides, if it seems like a lemon or reliability is suspect, then don’t buy it out of the lease.
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03-10-2018, 10:25 AM
#32
Race Director
Lots of great points and suggestions proffered above.
RWD and fun driving seem important to you. But is a brand new Stinger really the (only) way to go?
I like the idea of checking out the G70 or looking for a used Vagon.
Have you considered a (lightly) used Lexus IS350 F-Sport? 2014-16 models w/about 35-50k on the ODO can be had for $30-35k. (Admittedly, might be too small inside, and the driving dynamics can be a little numb.)
Check out this example near you:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ngId=479206663
RWD and fun driving seem important to you. But is a brand new Stinger really the (only) way to go?
I like the idea of checking out the G70 or looking for a used Vagon.
Have you considered a (lightly) used Lexus IS350 F-Sport? 2014-16 models w/about 35-50k on the ODO can be had for $30-35k. (Admittedly, might be too small inside, and the driving dynamics can be a little numb.)
Check out this example near you:
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ngId=479206663
Last edited by nanxun; 03-10-2018 at 10:28 AM.
03-10-2018, 10:40 AM
#33
I drive a Subata.
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I would get a Civic Type R over both. I did put my car seat in one at the dealership. It has a plenty of room in the back for it.
The Stinger should be a lot more fun to drive being RWD than Accord. But it is a first year for that model so wouldn't touch it. Should let others blow up the engine and have Kia address the issue.
I'm a big fan of the new Accord though! The 2.0T Sport version. Wouldn't go up to the top trim because almost $40k opens up too many good options.
CTR>Stinger>Accord 2.0T
The Stinger should be a lot more fun to drive being RWD than Accord. But it is a first year for that model so wouldn't touch it. Should let others blow up the engine and have Kia address the issue.
I'm a big fan of the new Accord though! The 2.0T Sport version. Wouldn't go up to the top trim because almost $40k opens up too many good options.
CTR>Stinger>Accord 2.0T
03-10-2018, 01:19 PM
#34
Team Owner
<<looks up new accord interior photos
first thought. Holy fuck, thats an accord!? Second thought. That’s wayyy too nice for Uber drivers.
IDK. Personally I would much rather have an F150 over the two. Or a new Ranger when it comes out.
but between the two, if this were your commuter car / daily, you may get tired driving an accord amongst so many other accord owners. And you may also regret getting the stinger without the better engine. Wasn’t that the whole point of the stinger? Either way, you’re fucked
i do really like that whole back door lease scam that someone else mentioned regarding the stinger gt2. Lol. Just the whole idea of beating the system would have me stretching for the GT2. Besides, if it seems like a lemon or reliability is suspect, then don’t buy it out of the lease.
first thought. Holy fuck, thats an accord!? Second thought. That’s wayyy too nice for Uber drivers.
IDK. Personally I would much rather have an F150 over the two. Or a new Ranger when it comes out.
but between the two, if this were your commuter car / daily, you may get tired driving an accord amongst so many other accord owners. And you may also regret getting the stinger without the better engine. Wasn’t that the whole point of the stinger? Either way, you’re fucked
i do really like that whole back door lease scam that someone else mentioned regarding the stinger gt2. Lol. Just the whole idea of beating the system would have me stretching for the GT2. Besides, if it seems like a lemon or reliability is suspect, then don’t buy it out of the lease.
03-10-2018, 01:23 PM
#35
Team Owner
I would get a Civic Type R over both. I did put my car seat in one at the dealership. It has a plenty of room in the back for it.
The Stinger should be a lot more fun to drive being RWD than Accord. But it is a first year for that model so wouldn't touch it. Should let others blow up the engine and have Kia address the issue.
I'm a big fan of the new Accord though! The 2.0T Sport version. Wouldn't go up to the top trim because almost $40k opens up too many good options.
CTR>Stinger>Accord 2.0T
The Stinger should be a lot more fun to drive being RWD than Accord. But it is a first year for that model so wouldn't touch it. Should let others blow up the engine and have Kia address the issue.
I'm a big fan of the new Accord though! The 2.0T Sport version. Wouldn't go up to the top trim because almost $40k opens up too many good options.
CTR>Stinger>Accord 2.0T
I could be wrong, but, I get the feeling he's looking for an auto and not a manual transmission, also. Maybe for the wife to drive also? I dunno. 00TL, clarify!!!
03-10-2018, 01:26 PM
#36
Azine Jabroni
Sigh... as much as I love the CTR and everything it stands for, being in my 30s, I could never daily drive one. It's just waaaay too much. The faux carbon fibre kit, paired with the excessive body vents/lines and red accents.... it's like Honda stopped off at Pep Boys prior to putting the car on the market. OP being a family man, likely is in a similar boat. Also, coming from an F150, the Civic will feel cramped.
I could be wrong, but, I get the feeling he's looking for an auto and not a manual transmission, also. Maybe for the wife to drive also? I dunno. 00TL, clarify!!!
03-10-2018, 01:39 PM
#37
Team Owner
Or an Acura version of the CTR.... same car, just suited to adults, not 21 year olds.
03-10-2018, 01:57 PM
#38
Azine Jabroni
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03-10-2018, 03:53 PM
#40
Banned
CTR.... kids. 
OP, did you have a look a TLX 3.5 A-spec? It sure is quicker than a stinger 2.0toy and knows how to make the proper noises, fit to this category.
OP, did you have a look a TLX 3.5 A-spec? It sure is quicker than a stinger 2.0toy and knows how to make the proper noises, fit to this category.
