330i or G35 coupe?
09-12-2005, 10:14 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by FastAcura
You had a 330ci?
S-10 > TL-S > 330CI > A4 (could be off)
The 330 he totalled when he crashed it into a tree.
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09-12-2005, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I want my 330ci back 
if I decide to put some money on a house instead of an m3, i'm lookin for 330's
09-12-2005, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
Don't ask me why I know this, Jesal line up goes
S-10 > TL-S > 330CI > A4 (could be off)
The 330 he totalled when he crashed it into a tree.
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S-10 > TL-S > 330CI > A4 (could be off)
The 330 he totalled when he crashed it into a tree.
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)Jizzball, you had an S-10? Any mods?
09-12-2005, 10:21 PM
#45
Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
Thats a rediculous rate for the BMWs. I know the old ones were leasing for like 329 a month with 3k down, the new ones can't be double. Especially with very high residuals.
62% residual. The $4200 includes taxes, bank fees, etc.
09-12-2005, 10:24 PM
#46
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Originally Posted by CLpower
Jizzball, you had an S-10? Any mods?
Yes!
But i was a noob to modding so it was ghetto stuff. I had bug deflectors everywhere and purple neon lights inside. Oh and straight pipes... did i mention it was a 4 banger.
09-12-2005, 10:26 PM
#47
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Originally Posted by FastAcura
So you downgraded from a 330ci to an Audi? What was wrong with you? 
new 330 was $41k
New A4 was $31k
If i could do it again then i would have bought a used 330ci. I sitll like my Audi and plan to keep it for awhile.
09-12-2005, 10:28 PM
#48
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Yes!
But i was a noob to modding so it was ghetto stuff. I had bug deflectors everywhere and purple neon lights inside. Oh and straight pipes... did i mention it was a 4 banger.
But i was a noob to modding so it was ghetto stuff. I had bug deflectors everywhere and purple neon lights inside. Oh and straight pipes... did i mention it was a 4 banger.
09-12-2005, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
new 330 was $41k
New A4 was $31k
If i could do it again then i would have bought a used 330ci. I sitll like my Audi and plan to keep it for awhile.
New A4 was $31k
If i could do it again then i would have bought a used 330ci. I sitll like my Audi and plan to keep it for awhile.
Damn, it doesn't have to be new. Should have bought a broken in 330Ci.
But I was joking, Audis are nice too. I just wouldn't want a turbo 4 banger.
09-12-2005, 11:09 PM
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G35 coupe has the highest resale value in its class. Its faster than the 330 and waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more reliable In the C&D comparo, the BMW wasn't even tested because the abs and other electrical components went nuts 
If you want the prestige and slightly better handling and the $10k price differential doesn't bother you, then the 330 is the car for you.
In the C&D comparo, the BMW wasn't even tested because the abs and other electrical components went nuts If you want the prestige and slightly better handling and the $10k price differential doesn't bother you, then the 330 is the car for you.
09-13-2005, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
G35 coupe has the highest resale value in its class. Its faster than the 330 and waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more reliable In the C&D comparo, the BMW wasn't even tested because the abs and other electrical components went nuts
If you want the prestige and slightly better handling and the $10k price differential doesn't bother you, then the 330 is the car for you.
In the C&D comparo, the BMW wasn't even tested because the abs and other electrical components went nuts If you want the prestige and slightly better handling and the $10k price differential doesn't bother you, then the 330 is the car for you.
09-13-2005, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
G35 coupe has the highest resale value in its class. Its faster than the 330 and waaaaaaaaaaaaaay more reliable In the C&D comparo, the BMW wasn't even tested because the abs and other electrical components went nuts
If you want the prestige and slightly better handling and the $10k price differential doesn't bother you, then the 330 is the car for you.
In the C&D comparo, the BMW wasn't even tested because the abs and other electrical components went nuts If you want the prestige and slightly better handling and the $10k price differential doesn't bother you, then the 330 is the car for you.
well said...
09-13-2005, 11:00 AM
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G35. Hands down. Personally, I'd also consider the TL...but, I'm kinda biased. 
09-13-2005, 11:06 AM
#61
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Originally Posted by FastAcura
In life you always get what you pay for. There is a reason why some things are more expensive than others.
Flatout, the 330 is NOT worth $10k over the G35C particularly given the likelihood that the 3-series will see more shoptime than the G.
09-13-2005, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FastAcura
In life you always get what you pay for. There is a reason why some things are more expensive than others.
For the extra cost needed to get the same features in the Bimmer, I just cannot see anyone having 10,000 reasons for it to be better than the Infiniti.
09-13-2005, 11:14 AM
#63
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Flatout, the 330 is NOT worth $10k over the G35C particularly given the likelihood that the 3-series will see more shoptime than the G. I'm not a big fan of the E90 - I actually think the E46 looks better, but I would take it over the G35 any day.
09-13-2005, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
What is a person getting more for in a 3-series over a G35?
For the extra cost needed to get the same features in the Bimmer, I just cannot see anyone having 10,000 reasons for it to be better than the Infiniti.
For the extra cost needed to get the same features in the Bimmer, I just cannot see anyone having 10,000 reasons for it to be better than the Infiniti.
Originally Posted by Automobile
Like too many Nissan products, the G35's interior suffered from some cheap materials and questionable design at its launch; it's been improved somewhat since then, but more still could be done. The driving position is good, and the soft seats feel comfortable at first, but they prove unsupportive in hard driving. The back seat doesn't offer as much space as the Caddy, but adults can be wedged in there, and our car had reclining rear seatbacks, part of the Premium package. Outside, the G35's sharp eighteen-inch wheels and splashes of chrome add just enough flash to the well-proportioned shape. There's little to complain about here and a lot to like, and it all might have been enough to win the day had the 3-series not been so damn good.
The BMW is the most expensive car here, and you can tell as soon as you get into it. The interior is very much in the mold of the current 5-series, but the materials actually seem richer. Current 3-series owners could pick some nits about switches here or there being cheapened, but the 330i certainly had the nicest cabin of the three cars.
Back at the track, we were a little surprised to find the 330i a more resolute understeerer than the other two. Mostly, it just hangs on, but when you want to kick the tail out, it's less willing to play than either the Caddy or the Infiniti. But the BMW's superior grip helped it deliver the fastest lap times despite the Infiniti's clear power advantage. Whether on the track or on the road, the 330i was the most composed and the easiest to drive fast.
You can sense the attention to detail here. The feel of the controls and the composure of the chassis is unmatched. The 330i is, overall, simply the most rewarding car to drive.
There are some tests in which the outcome is surprising--and then there's this one. The Americans have come late to the party, but they're catching up fast. The Japanese offer the best bargain, the winner by the numbers. The Germans deliver the best driving experience. The 3-series is the finest iteration of the sport sedan, and although the historically strong resale value and the free scheduled maintenance lessen the pain, it's definitely the most expensive. You get what you pay for.
So let's see, you pay for:
More Comfort
Better Interior
Better Performance
Better Materials
The G35 is nice, but the 3 is a notch better. The G35 is a better value, but if you wanted a better car, pick the 3.
09-13-2005, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FastAcura
So let's see, you pay for:
More Comfort
Better Interior
Better Performance
Better Materials
The G35 is nice, but the 3 is a notch better. The G35 is a better value, but if you wanted a better car, pick the 3.
More Comfort
Better Interior
Better Performance
Better Materials
The G35 is nice, but the 3 is a notch better. The G35 is a better value, but if you wanted a better car, pick the 3.
09-13-2005, 11:47 AM
#66
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Okay...perhaps I'm just complacent. But, that's still not $10,000 reasons more to buy a 3. And on performance, I do disagree since I believe the G35C would smoke the 3.
Well, if that was the case we would all be driving Acuras because I think they have the best value. Laptimes, the 3 beat the G35.
The new Z06 will be faster than a Ferrari, so there's no reason to spend another $140,000 for the Ferrari. People can buy cars because they LIKE that specific car, not because it has a better value.
The 330ci ZHP ran a 14 flat with 235 hp, I would love to find out what this one can do with 255 hp. When I say performance, I mean overall performance, not 0-60 and 1/4 times. They are not designed for that. But just like they said "But the BMW's superior grip helped it deliver the fastest lap times despite the Infiniti's clear power advantage. Whether on the track or on the road, the 330i was the most composed and the easiest to drive fast." That's what I consider performance.
09-13-2005, 11:59 AM
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I loved that thing! So many memories in it... actually got more girls in that thing than anything else i had
Oh it was an extended cab and had two 10s subs sitting behind me. Oh man was that LOUD. Cheap stuff i found at the flea market too!
Also talk about a truck that didnt do well in snow.
Oh it was an extended cab and had two 10s subs sitting behind me. Oh man was that LOUD. Cheap stuff i found at the flea market too!
Also talk about a truck that didnt do well in snow.
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09-13-2005, 12:03 PM
#69
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Originally Posted by 6mtV6
I got a lease deal for a 330i for 36months 12K miles $600/month $4200 due at signing.
I can get a G35coupe for 24months 12K miles $505/month 2190 due at signing.
I can get a G35coupe for 24months 12K miles $505/month 2190 due at signing.
09-13-2005, 12:34 PM
#70
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Originally Posted by FastAcura
The car came out how long ago? Because of one review (which it won by the way) you're saying that it will be breaking? I'm not a big fan of the E90 - I actually think the E46 looks better, but I would take it over the G35 any day.
I'm not a big fan of the E90 - I actually think the E46 looks better, but I would take it over the G35 any day.
09-13-2005, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
your right about it being new, the E90 might not have any problems, but you have to admit that bimmers are known for well below average reliability. So until they prove us wrong, and I hope they do, they are considered un reliable. At least to me.
09-13-2005, 12:50 PM
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I dont care for graphs. I rather experience things for myself. Most BMW owners will say how much they love their cars and most will buy bmw over and over again.
Cant say the same about acura owners
Cant say the same about acura owners
09-13-2005, 12:52 PM
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This is 04, so I guess they are starting to prove me wrong, but at least I backed up my post
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7119227/
The magazine ranks reliability based on a survey of its subscribers, then reports problems per 100 vehicles. The average problem rate for all vehicles in the survey was 16 problems per 100 vehicles.
Subaru 8
Honda 9
Acura 10
Toyota 10
Hyundai 11
Infiniti 11
Lexus 11
Audi 12
Mini 13
Ford 15
Pontiac 15
Cadillac 16
Chevrolet 16
Chrysler 16
GMC 16
Jeep 16
Mazda 16
Saab 16
Dodge 17
Mercury 17
Volvo 17
Buick 18
Nissan 19
Saturn 19
BMW 21
Volkswagen 23
Mercedes-Benz 25
Lincoln 26
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7119227/
The magazine ranks reliability based on a survey of its subscribers, then reports problems per 100 vehicles. The average problem rate for all vehicles in the survey was 16 problems per 100 vehicles.
Subaru 8
Honda 9
Acura 10
Toyota 10
Hyundai 11
Infiniti 11
Lexus 11
Audi 12
Mini 13
Ford 15
Pontiac 15
Cadillac 16
Chevrolet 16
Chrysler 16
GMC 16
Jeep 16
Mazda 16
Saab 16
Dodge 17
Mercury 17
Volvo 17
Buick 18
Nissan 19
Saturn 19
BMW 21
Volkswagen 23
Mercedes-Benz 25
Lincoln 26
09-13-2005, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FastAcura
Well, if that was the case we would all be driving Acuras because I think they have the best value. Laptimes, the 3 beat the G35.
The new Z06 will be faster than a Ferrari, so there's no reason to spend another $140,000 for the Ferrari. People can buy cars because they LIKE that specific car, not because it has a better value.
The 330ci ZHP ran a 14 flat with 235 hp, I would love to find out what this one can do with 255 hp. When I say performance, I mean overall performance, not 0-60 and 1/4 times. They are not designed for that. But just like they said "But the BMW's superior grip helped it deliver the fastest lap times despite the Infiniti's clear power advantage. Whether on the track or on the road, the 330i was the most composed and the easiest to drive fast." That's what I consider performance.
The new Z06 will be faster than a Ferrari, so there's no reason to spend another $140,000 for the Ferrari. People can buy cars because they LIKE that specific car, not because it has a better value.
The 330ci ZHP ran a 14 flat with 235 hp, I would love to find out what this one can do with 255 hp. When I say performance, I mean overall performance, not 0-60 and 1/4 times. They are not designed for that. But just like they said "But the BMW's superior grip helped it deliver the fastest lap times despite the Infiniti's clear power advantage. Whether on the track or on the road, the 330i was the most composed and the easiest to drive fast." That's what I consider performance.
09-13-2005, 12:59 PM
#78
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I dont care for graphs. I rather experience things for myself. Most BMW owners will say how much they love their cars and most will buy bmw over and over again.
Cant say the same about acura owners
Cant say the same about acura owners
I actually didn't think much of BMW after I sold the Acura and bought one. But if I had to do it again, this car is so much more fun, and I haven't really had any noticable problems so far that weren't there before.
It's just a totally different driving experience. It's fun racing some of these "sport" coupes in a 4 door family sedan and show them the limits, and then do the same on the back roads. You get everything you need all in one, performance, luxury and comfort.
09-13-2005, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
That was against the sedan. The coupe is lower with stiffer springs with bigger, lighter wheels. The G35 coupe has always had better slalom times than the G35 sedan (by about 2mph). Overall performance, I'd still have to pick the coupe over the 330 sedan...not to mention that the G35 can be modded for way cheaper with more choices and probably better gains.
Well slalom times doesn't autmatically mean it's gonna be faster around the track. Shit, my 4 door sedan had a better slalom time than the Corvette back in 97.
09-13-2005, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FastAcura
Well slalom times doesn't autmatically mean it's gonna be faster around the track. Shit, my 4 door sedan had a better slalom time than the Corvette back in 97.
In overall performance, I still think the coupe would produce faster times around a given track than the sedan.