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2019 Mazda 3 - FWD or AWD?

 
Old 04-02-2019, 01:58 PM
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The Mazda is sort of a risk-averse type buy for me. The pendulum of priorities swung back to the reliable commuter side of things because of my BMW ownership experience and moving to a new city, which means a lot more seat time in my vehicle (even though I work at home some days now). I still wanted something nice inside and somewhat fun to drive. The new 3 surprised me at the autoshow (was not on radar at all) and it kinda hits all the boxes strongly enough to make it the best choice for me right now,......I think. I am REALLY indecisive, especially with cars. Stuff like the GLI or GTI tempt me, or the sportwagon because of the awesome cargo & non-SUV'ness of it, I have to admit. I was back and forth about things to worry/not worry much about, and kind of decided if there is a good option without a turbo, that's a better long term choice vs having more things that can go wrong (even though generally turbo engines are pretty reasonable these days on the reliability front depending on manufacturer). I struggled with considering VW's or not (Almost bought a sportwagen before I got my BMW).

Whatever I buy, I am suffering a not-insignificant power loss vs the 335, so I am not worrying too much about that. GTI/GLI would be better than the 3, of course. I sort of prioritized reliability and livability/features highest, and the 3 is strong on those. Inside, my wife said it's nicer than my BMW (can't really argue with that for the top trim), and feature wise it's on par,..12 speaker sound system, adaptive LEDs and auto high beams, touch handles to unlock car, etc,...sans a kick under the bumper to open the trunk thing. Ergonomics are very good, and it's a comfortable seat/place to be. It kind of gives me everything the BMW does, with the exception of the power (which kinda sucks, but what can you do). If I went sportwagen, the 2019's don't offer LED lights (which I do really want), and for a comparable interior/feature set it's way more money. But that might be the trade off for the sweet sweet cargo space it has. Difficult balance and equation for what to consider and ultimately buy. Already spending more than I'd really like to, so I don't want to go any higher than I already am (wife would NOT be pleased, and we try to be reasonable with purchases and spend within our means). So I am trying NOT to run out and look at anything else, because that would lead to weeks more of indecision & spending more $$$ in the end realistically. And for me mentally/time wise, I need this wrapped up like, asap.

The 2019 does drive differently from the 2018. Handling is still sharp, but it's better/more compliant over rough roads/bumps, and is definitely more quiet inside. I'm sure I'd like the GTI/GLI, and I am sure it is a more sporting drive (power wise anyway, not sure handling wise which I'd prefer). If I have time, I might check one out (GLI/GTI), although I've more or less made up my mind on the 3 and what I am getting trim/colours etc.
You seem like you've really thought this through and are making the right choice for your specific situation. Props to you for that.

Looking forward to seeing the new car!
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You seem like you've really thought this through and are making the right choice for your specific situation. Props to you for that.

Looking forward to seeing the new car!
Thanks SamDoe1 . I've probably put way too much thought/time/effort/second guessing/analyzing/research/etc into this. I think I am making a reasonable choice that I hope I am happy with, and think I will be. I know I could go other routes, like a VW for example, and probably be pretty happy/satisfied with it long term as well. I think it came down to the Mazda being strong in so many areas, and the power being good enough, that kind of got me to where I am. I also looked at cost reduction where I didn't NEED to be spending extra money, such as premium vs regular gasoline. I've been driving cars that required premium fuel for 14 years roughly, so saving money in that area, for example, seemed like a smart choice for me right now (Lots of life changes this past year, including marriage, house/moving, more dogs, more driving, etc). Also, I have access to an E39 M5 if I need my BMW/fast car/manual fix (dad's car, and probably mine sometime down the road), so my day to day car doesn't need to be super exciting. It does make me sad the BMW is going (must be done though), so I am trying to enjoy my last days with it. Plus a new car is exciting too!!!

I should also point out that I am very appreciative of everyone's feedback and advice. I think my choice on colors might disappoint a lot of you haha, but oh well.
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Been out of town for work so, didn't get a chance to see the thread until now.

You have clearly thought this very through factoring in many aspects/facets towards this purchase. Just do not get into analysis paralysis.
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I can really relate to your thought process in many ways, West. You are just much better at articulating it than I could
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A good review by savagegeese with lots and lots of technical details ... although he may have been "captured" by the promotional message in the process .... still, worth watching IMO ....

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A good review by savagegeese with lots and lots of technical details ... although he may have been "captured" by the promotional message in the process .... still, worth watching IMO ....
Love savagegeese, his reviews are top notch. I would not say I am obsessed with ergonomics, but they are very, very important to me. Driving dynamics, I am obsessed with though.

also LMAO @ the dead pedal part

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This is also a good review, but I'm pretty sure West6MT watched it...

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also LMAO @ the dead pedal part
Yeah, that was pretty fucking hilarious ....
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I think if someone offered a better hatch spoiler it would really balance out the back better. Something like the Focus ST has.
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:40 PM
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No spoiler option? WTF?
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Sorry guys, I have been really busy and haven't been able to make it back to update on where things are (and I only really have an update as of this afternoon anyway).

I gave the go ahead this afternoon to secure my choice for the Mazda, and I am waiting to hear back (there are a couple in province, so they're working on securing a car). This was after a long week of internal strife/debate and a bit of discussion with my wife etc. I reconsidered maybe getting a VW sportwagen for the extra cargo capacity (but would have to give up stuff like LED headlights and a bit of power or needing to get the top trim AWD car for 4-5k extra vs the mazda for that stuff), decided the GLI didn't really make sense to consider/look at, and yearned strongly for a Urano Grey or Cornflower Blue GTI (way more $$$ and my wife might consider murder if I went that route). The decision came down to the Mazda being the best option overall as a commuter/daily without going way over (5-7k) what my wife and I would like to spend. As discussed already, that takes into account fuel economy, driving dynamics, power, comfort, features, ergonomics, potential reliability weak points, maintenance costs, and so on. The final thing that pushed me to the Mazda was it's strengths in ergo/comfort and features, which for me I decided were most important for the amount of driving I do now.

Assuming they secure a car for me, it won't be long before I have it. I'm enjoying my last days with the BMW. I'll update as things progress.


You didn't think I'd tell you what I picked yet,...did you?

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Ooo...is there an ETA?
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Looking forward to seeing the gray Mz3
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WHITE!
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Gray/black or White/red are my guesses.
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White/red cuz he wants to channel his inner-Yumcha.






But, seriously, given how thoroughly assessed this purchase has been, I'm very positive Westie got the car he wants and will be happy with. Just waiting for the ETA now.
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Agreed
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More from Savagegeese ....

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Interestingly I have also been intrigued by the new Mazda 3 myself lately (only I really dislike the hatch and would much prefer the sedan version). Personally, I don't really think the 3 has nearly enough hp to justify AWD and its additional cost/weight. That said, I live in south GA so I don't need the extra traction in any circumstances; For me the FWD would just be a better fit. But there are obvious advantages to having AWD and if its something you really want then that's what you should get....
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Hey guys,

Sorry I haven't posted about the car or given any updates. I've been super busy/not home much/life chaos and working on home projects and nowhere near a computer (unless working).

I'll try to get a few pictures up soon. As a brief update, I've put a bit over 2000 kms on the car so far, and it drives nicely for the most part. Certain surfaces are a bit harsh in terms of how the car handles them, but generally it's comfy and quiet. Broken in the engine adequately now I'd say, so will start to push the car a bit more.

I will be getting some issues fixed with the car, which I am not overly happy about....
- Something with the wiper (flaw/installed incorrectly) scratched the windshield, so there is a nice arc of a scratch right in my field of vision. I noticed this immediately when I picked up the car, and thought it was dirt/smudging (it was raining when I picked it up). I soon discovered it was a scratch, and also there was a chip nearby. Contacted the dealer immediately, and they claim they will fix it as soon as they can (that was weeks ago though, and I just emailed them today asking about it,...been busy).
- At hwy speeds, there is a bit of vibration I notice through the steering wheel and arm rests. Probably an unbalanced wheel (based on how many weights are on a few of them). Hopefully nothing, and an easy fix. New car shouldn't really have anything like that though, even though it isn't that pronounced.
- Driver side mirror seems to vibrate/wobble a bit on the hwy, which is really annoying. Might be related to the vibration issue mentioned above, or something else. Passenger one is fine/normal. Hopefully an easy fix.
- While driving straight, the steering wheel is slightly off center to the left (also annoying to me). Easy fix for that really.
- Electronics stuff - occasionally safety things seem to stop working and I get an error message telling me to drive safely etc. Stuff like the parking sensors or blind spot warning stop working etc. Also the Navi would start talking about speed limits and welcome to Canada blah blah blah when I turn on the car (known issue), but an update from Mazda is available now supposedly. Until I get that, I shut off the voice shit so I don't hear it. This past week, the avg mileage tracker starting to go up quickly for no damn reason. It's gone from 8.0 up to 8.8L per 100 kms in the last 4 or 5 days. This is while I am doing drives of like 6.7 or 7.1L per 100 kms on the hwy/city mixed. So the reading is ridiculously wrong. I think the car needs a software update to sort out these random bugs.

Two things I am liking so far are the steering and the brakes. Braking is very linear, which took some adjustment because there isn't the same kind of initial bite a lot of cars I've driven have had. After adjusting to it, I am liking it a lot. Want more braking force, just press a bit more. The feel/response is nice, IMO. Steering feel/weight I think Mazda did quite well. Tossing the car into corners or slaloming around construction stuff right now near my in-laws is a lot of fun. They did a good job with

Oh, and I HATE the damn heads up display that always comes on every time you turn the car on. Mazda needs to update it so it remembers if you have turned it off.

More late. If anyone has any questions, ask away and I will try to respond in a timely manner. I will give a more comprehensive review/impressions etc soon.

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Glad to see you got the car and are mostly enjoying it!

Can't wait for pics!

How long have you had it now?
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So, what did you end up getting? Sedan or hatch, FWD or AWD, Trim, Color(s)?

Details, man, details!

Kidding, obviously. Glad you're enjoying it.
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So, what did you end up getting? Sedan or hatch, FWD or AWD, Trim, Color(s)?

Details, man, details!

Kidding, obviously. Glad you're enjoying it.
But seriously though, details.
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Glad to see you got the car and are mostly enjoying it!

Can't wait for pics!

How long have you had it now?
I have had it for pretty much exactly a month now.

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So, what did you end up getting? Sedan or hatch, FWD or AWD, Trim, Color(s)?

Details, man, details!

Kidding, obviously. Glad you're enjoying it.
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But seriously though, details.
^^ @ you guys

Alright, alright....



I got,..........





a.......................





black on black FWD fully loaded auto hatch

Reasons for not going for the AWD - Wife and I decided it was not worth the extra upfront $ and long term costs associated with mileage/maintenance etc, and I've been doing winter with winter tires on FWD/RWD cars since I started driving. I can borrow her AWD Volvo if needed, or just stay home (option for me luckily). Also, since I read/watched every damn review in existence, I felt the car would be more fun/lively without the added awd weight with the power it had etc based on reviewer comments about that. Finding colour combo/pkg I'd be happy with might have been a problem too. Anyway, I am happy with my choice, no regrets about that.

One thing I do sort of regret, now that I am living with it daily, is it is a little smaller in cargo space then I realized. It is a bit annoying, but I make it work. I might keep the car less time than originally planned,...in part because of this, but we will see how things go. I have to look into roof rack/boxes etc.


Things I need to do, but have not got around to doing yet because I've been too busy,.......
Tint - windows need it & I have to decide who I'll get to do it
Wrap - there is chrome trim along the bottom on the windows. This must be blacked out asap, since it will improve the looks of the car a lot.

The black paint looks good in the sun. It's like the black paint on my old TSX,... metallic blue'ish flakes in it the look nice when they catch sunlight. Mazda really did well with the black wheels/trim they put on the hatch too.

More later.

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you wasted more than $1500 worth of your time trying to save the same amount ya tight bastard! lol. enjoy Steve! salut
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Well, it was a process and it sounds like aside from some hiccups, you are satisfied and happy with your purchase? Now that the break-in is done, well, open the taps a bit and give her some juice. Congrats, Steve and thanks for the update.
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Congrats! Good news is the little bugs all sound like things that can be fixed, and it sounds like you enjoy driving it.

The new body style took me some getting used to but now I'm really into it. Probably really works with black, too.
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