doggydog

I recently took a test drive on a 2008 G35 6speed manual sedan and I was really impressed with the overall performance of the engine and transmission.The interior is more refined than the 2006 G35 sedan.
Currently I own a 2006 TL 5AT.I really love the interior design especially the dashboard.I've driven over 1,000 miles twice on roadtrips and im very satisfied with the ride and comfort of the seats.
I love the exterior design of the TL Type S but I feel that the G35 is not far behind. I would like get some input from Type S owners, basically would you trade in your car for the new 2008 G35 sedan.Any input would be appreciated. TYA guys

Dan

A choice between "made in Ohio" and "made in Japan". I know which one I would buy.

Moog-Type-S

Two similar, yet different animals.
TL interior > G35 interior
G RWD > TL FWD

SeCsTaC

The TL Type S looks so fucking sexy... but to me the overall package of the G35 is more attractive, however, i'm betting next year when the TL gets a redesign that it's going to kick ass and take names.

Wait

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

If you want straight line performance, go with the G35, if you want a car that can corner, TL-S is the way to go.

SeCsTaC

G35 can corner

synth19

Since the redesign of the TL is right around the corner, I would wait (if you can).

LuvMyTSX

dom

And then get the G35.

F23A4

iTimmy

Right now I would go with a G, the current TL never really did it for me, but who's to say what's coming down the pipeline. If they have 310+HP, SH-AWD, 6 spd, with aggressive styling under $40k it will be a homerun.

nicholbr

^^ DEFINITELY agree.


+1.


It is always a risky affair buying the first iteration of a car model after a redesign. I've watched my parents go through this on two separate occasions and it was incredibly annoying/time consuming.

If you do feel the need to pull the trigger my vote goes for the g35.

SiGGy

Being that I own a TL, I'd switch to a G in a heartbeat....

Acura just has major quality problems...

I'm pissed I bought a $30k car that...

the dash is fading in less than 2 years
Rear suspension was already replaced < 18k miles
Seats cracking
BT module replaced
Window tracks needed oiling (squeeling)
More noises and rattles than i care to even mention
piss poor paint
brembo brakes warped...
Manual transmission that's a notchy POS

But hey, it's totally on par to the CL type-s I owned. Same quality problems continue with this "Luxury" band... You'll find 90% of my listed problems (there's more) are common with the TL.

Thus Acura quality = shit... it's kinda sad for a near luxury vehicle.

On the other hand it's pretty hard to find another car with all of the options for the same price. So if you can live with it's faults (I do) it's pretty hard to beat the value of the car. If you roll the dice; you might get a rattle free TL.

Infamous425

g35

badazzTL

Wow, for being on an Acura forum you guys sure like Infinity. That's funny, because I watched a relatively long review of the TL-S by a G35 driver and he said he'd trade in his G35 for the TL-S in a heartbeat. Not to mention the retarded analog clocks Infinity insists on installing in every model are tacky IMO. If you can't wait for the TL redesign, I'd go for the 08 TL.

dom

What the hell is an Infinity?

I can't speak for Infiniti, but most of the problems Siggy mentioned are also standard features on my 04 TSX, not to mention a few others. So quality issues are something to consider when buying Acura IMO.

Crazy Bimmer

What quality issues? You mean the both fog light lens arent suppose to crack after 1k miles?

Otherwise my moms TSX is fine. 9k miles on it only though.

fuzzy02CLS

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I wouldn't trade my car for either of them. But if I was buying a new car I'd go with the G35.
The TLS has the interior, but the G35 has a little bit more of everything. I feel it's a better car over the TLS.

I wasn't all that impressed when I test drove the TLS. I did test a new G35 6mt & was impressed.
And to rebut SiGGy, I know people with new TL's & not 1 rattle or problem. So it goes both ways. Most of those problems I'd consider minor anyway. An inconvenience more then a problem.

iforyou

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Any car can corner, but how well it does it is another story.

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/show...63#post2547839

I guess my point is that, in terms of handling, FWD vs RWD isn't much of an issue here. Or he RWD > than FWD thing doesn't apply in this particular comparison.

synth19

why not get an '05 or '06 RL? My RL is absolutely amazing. 100% happy with it.

OrngeAc3.2

drove the g35 sedan a couple of weeks ago, didnt like it all....i say TL-S

Crazy Bimmer

I love how many times this article gets posted to defend FWD.

Want me to post how many other times that the G35 won over the TLS on a track?

Yea exactly.

gocubsgo55

It's Physics, propultion is naturally better than pulling. Just because one article gives one result does not mean it's the scripture.

Moog-Type-S

Good to see that the next gen TL followed in the last gen CL's footsteps
My CL-S had 85% of your "list"......I've had cars that costed less than half of what my CL-S cost that were more reliable and better built.

iTimmy

I could care less about track numbers, I want a car that puts a smile on my face. RWD is just more fun to drive for me, if I want to hang the back end out I can just give it more gas and you get oversteer, do it in a FWD car and you get torque steer.

Dan

Have you ever driven a car that actually handles better than your capability to exploit it? Can you say "front wheel drive pig" & "torque steer"?

Trackruner228

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Another thing to consider is when Acura introduces the new TL for 09 the 08 TL might drop in real sell value, although I wouldnt worry about that much since they generally have good resale. Go test drive both and see which you prefer.

psteng19

Better go do some more studying at your engineering school

Mokos23

Just get a 2008 Altima 3.5 instead, spend under 30K for one that is loaded w/navi, only 16 hp less than the TL-type S and both are FWD. As for the G35, a nicely equipped one is still cheaper than a TL-type S.

iforyou

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Yea that really depending on the driver, but for me, I would trust a recognized professional driver rather than some car journalists or weekend racers.

I can be racing with Alonso with a F430 and he can probably still beat me in a civic.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

Nope, that's why I only trust results from professional drivers. If Michael Schumacher compares these cars just like Keiichi Tsuchiya did then yea, I will change my mind, otherwise, TL-S still has the upper hand in terms of track time at least at Willowsprings.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying FWD are ALWAYS better than RWD, nono, I am not saying that, all I am saying is, in this comparison, the TL-S clearly is the winner. Torque steer? Understeer? Those things can be eliminated if the engineers are good.

http://www.xanga.com/tl_type_s

Check out that video, that's not the same comparison test by the way (so 2 tests were done by the professional driver already, not once). It seems to me that the TL-S is biased to oversteering rather than understeering.

unlemming

The grass is always greener....

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

The bottom line is you won't go wrong with either car. The G35 is probably the closest thing to the BMW 3 series in terms of the "ingredients." Both cars are reliable, fuel mileage, pretty close, with the TL being a bit better especially in hwy driving. If you are talking about handling in terms of drifting, then G35 should do the trick. Appearance wise, both look good to me, with the G35 being on the prettier side, while the TL-S looks more aggressive. Shifter feel, TL-S is certainly better, as with most Hondas. Resale value though, the TL-S is strong, but 09 TL is just around the corner, so not too sure how the 08 model will hold up.

Silver_Surfer

A nicely equipped g35 still does not compare to a TL-S because the TL is already fully loaded. In terms of price? A fully loaded G35 is nearly 40k or over. You can get a TL-S (fully loaded is standard) at 33k-35k today.

derrick

Depends on what you want. As others have already posted their RWD vs FWD ... it all boils down to personal taste and perceived 'safety advantages' of FWD (ie no need for dedicated winter tires for FWD cars). If you already drive a 3rd gen TL, I don't know if the depreciation hit to 'upgrade' to a TL-S is a good idea. The next model change is scheduled for 2009 (and prob be available fall 2008) so waiting a year from now is probably worth your while.

I like the G35 sedan. I do like the G37 coupe better, but that is a personal taste. I will say, both cars (ie TL-S and G sedan) are good for what they are intended but each go about their application of those intended needs are a little different. If you can test drive the G for about a 1/2 hr in various scenarios (ie highway, city, parking lot, parallel park, emergency manoevers, etc) ... try and compare it with the Acura back-to-back. See what you like better. Of course you will be more familiar with the TL-S but try and be more objective to a fair degree.

PS Yes, I am such a geek when I test drive cars. I think the salesguy I'm with must think I'm an idiot for doing such things ...

stright-(paint)balling

the one made 1/2 hour from where i live huh?

stright-(paint)balling

this is my 2 cents.
Have you thought about a 335 either XI(if you want awd) or I (if you want Rear wheel drive)
the 335 with a 6 speed is a "snappy" looking car. that twin turbo set up isn't anythin to laugh at.

iTimmy

What are you talking about? Its not like you can get crank windows in either. The G has standard options that are not available on the TL period, further a bulk of the options for the G are not available on the TL, such as rearview monitor, adaptive front lighting, inteligent cruise control and built in hard drive for music storage. Just by getting the premium pack you have all the TL standard features(and more) and your in the $33-35k, by the time you get to $40k you have a lot of options not available on the TL.

G35 Journey 32,050 + 2500 premium pack + 2150 naviagation = $36,700(even if you add the sport pack your with in $100 of the TL-Ss base price, and you have a lot stuff not available on the TL period.)

Base TL-S $38,225

The prices are very close, and the G allows more flexibility with how you want your car, the Acura is an all or nothing deal, some people like that others do not.

sonnyg80

Sister got the G35 - thing is smoooth. I'd go with that over the TL-S.

mrdeeno

Please check the resale value of the G35, and you will be surprised how "strong" it is.