2007 TLS faster that a 2003 CLS-6
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2007 TLS faster that a 2003 CLS-6
We just recently added a new TLS to the family and am curious to know if my CL would be quicker... I know that the easy answer is to line them up and try, but my wife might have something to say about that (the TL is her's).
I think the 6MT is a significant advantage ( the TL is auto). I also have a bunch of bold on mods on the CL while the TL is stock.
What do you think... will it be close?
I think the 6MT is a significant advantage ( the TL is auto). I also have a bunch of bold on mods on the CL while the TL is stock.
What do you think... will it be close?
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an stock auto TLS puts down about 250 WHP, thats what I saw in the 3rd gen section. Do you know how much the CL put out?
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You should change thread title to "Is 2007 TLS faster than a 2003 CLS-6"
I thought from your thread title that you actually had some info on these cars.
I thought from your thread title that you actually had some info on these cars.
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your car should beat her tl-s auto pretty easily I think, mainly because of your mods. If it was stock vs. stock I think it would be a close race if you're a good shifter.
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Thanks guys... I would hate to have the "slow" car.
I think that XXPN... is close in the estimate of stock WHP for the CLS at about 200. I am a bit surprised to hear that the WHP number of 250 on a stock TLS auto. I would have thought there would be more losses thru the auto transmission.
I have never dyno'ed my car so I don't know what it lays down. I have seen a chart from Comptech showing a CL-S 6 speed with I/H/E laying down 249. I may get a few more ponies with the UR Crank pulley but basically it looks like HP output may be pretty close to the new TLS. I am sure that the 3.5 will have quite a bit more torque so it will probably get me off the line. Launches are pretty tricky with a 6MT.
Sorry about the thread title... it is a bit misleading, and it is now too late for me to edit it.
I think that XXPN... is close in the estimate of stock WHP for the CLS at about 200. I am a bit surprised to hear that the WHP number of 250 on a stock TLS auto. I would have thought there would be more losses thru the auto transmission.
I have never dyno'ed my car so I don't know what it lays down. I have seen a chart from Comptech showing a CL-S 6 speed with I/H/E laying down 249. I may get a few more ponies with the UR Crank pulley but basically it looks like HP output may be pretty close to the new TLS. I am sure that the 3.5 will have quite a bit more torque so it will probably get me off the line. Launches are pretty tricky with a 6MT.
Sorry about the thread title... it is a bit misleading, and it is now too late for me to edit it.
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theres a vid in second gen, of an auto CLS vs a TLs. the cl has bolt ons and the TL only has an intake. TL could only take it by a car it looked like. the vid is new.
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I think that XXPN... is close in the estimate of stock WHP for the CLS at about 200. I am a bit surprised to hear that the WHP number of 250 on a stock TLS auto. I would have thought there would be more losses thru the auto transmission.
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Stock 6mt CLS dyno is about 215WHP.
The TLS auto or 6mt has more power, but the new TL is heavier then then CLS. Also has bigger rims/tires & that adds more rolling weight.
The TLS auto or 6mt has more power, but the new TL is heavier then then CLS. Also has bigger rims/tires & that adds more rolling weight.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
Even with most bolt on's the CLS still dyno's about 240WHP. Now does the TL have enough juice to overcome the weight increase?
So I may have a small edge in HP but it the torque difference that will count off the line... but maybe the extra weight will negate that advantage.
I have not had a chance to really try the TLS WOT as the car is still new (600m abstinence) but it feels pretty impressive. I love the paddle shifters... very quick... not like the TSX that has a huge delay.
I also did not know that the TLS was heavier that our CLs...
Thanks for the input guys... I would like to think that my modded CLS would be a little quicker... if (when) I get a chance to try it out I will let you know.
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Originally Posted by AMGala
Well then just put an air intake restrictor on her car. Problem solved.
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