2006 Civic Si performance

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 5, 2006 | 03:34 PM
  #41  
jnumata's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 147
Likes: 2
From: Seattle
Originally Posted by dom
6.3 may be a tad optimistic. MT and C&D correct their times for temp etc. Methinks they miscalculated here or got a ringer.

R&T's numbers are reliable in the sense that the publish what they get. There are no corrections involved. Which explains their sometimes slower numbers.
I have also heard that R&T's numbers are slower because they test the cars as daily drivers - making full shifts for example versus full gas clutch only shifts. They basically want to show what performance you would get if you actually owned the car. I don't think most people on this board are powershifting everytime they are racing.
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 05:50 PM
  #42  
65 Fury Convert's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,637
Likes: 21
Originally Posted by jnumata
I have also heard that R&T's numbers are slower because they test the cars as daily drivers - making full shifts for example versus full gas clutch only shifts. They basically want to show what performance you would get if you actually owned the car. I don't think most people on this board are powershifting everytime they are racing.
What the hell are you talking bout Willis? "I heard". Heard from who? Some guy your brothers friends sisters uncles brother knows? They test using the optimal launch just like every other mag.
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 06:57 PM
  #43  
heyitsme's Avatar
Safety Car
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,426
Likes: 0
From: philly
Originally Posted by dom
The only dyno I've seen so far (at TOV) the Si put down considerably more power than an 05 RSX-S.



06 Si put down 197.
Honestly, every dyno from tov has made that specific car the 'underrated car of the year' if they were to start giving awards for such a thing. You'd think a website like that would just go the dynojet route to end all confusion without having to add theoretical wheel/tire weights/tire tread grip/ ball hang back on after testing hub hp etc.

197hp my ass for sure, this must have all been before my 20 McNugget order from McDonalds and then picking up my fatass friend on route for the 1/4 mile run. The car is no damn faster than an rsx, AND IT HAS AN LSD, yet it dynos out the ass, SURE.
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 07:10 PM
  #44  
heyitsme's Avatar
Safety Car
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,426
Likes: 0
From: philly
Originally Posted by dom
6.3 may be a tad optimistic. MT and C&D correct their times for temp etc. Methinks they miscalculated here or got a ringer.

R&T's numbers are reliable in the sense that the publish what they get. There are no corrections involved. Which explains their sometimes slower numbers.
2nd of all, there is no real test TO TEST 0-60, it like buying one of those dash testers. I remember when the rsx-S from c&d got a 6.1/.2 which seemed very optimistic to say the least to numerous online communities. Even as club-rsx tried oh so hard to pull off that kind of performance, they final managed a notuh. In the end its just mag hype.
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 09:11 PM
  #45  
BustedJack's Avatar
The Boss
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,375
Likes: 0
From: New Jack City
Originally Posted by jnumata
It may sound like BS. But Monday I ran a new Mustang GT Convertible from 80 to 110 and lost by only 1 car (My nose was at the rear bumper). The chick driving stopped at a rest stop so I stopped to talk. It was an Auto. This is a pretty good zone for the Si. 80 mph puts the Si at the low end of vtec in 4th.
Against a new Mustang GT from 80-110 and lost by only 1 car? Not bad, those new GT are pretty fast.

Here is a few Si clips I found, they're pretty nice little cars
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...02E64F5679.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...F069C3DD8B.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...93CC369B05.htm
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 11:56 PM
  #46  
PixelHarmony's Avatar
Thread Starter
Master Graphic Artist
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,859
Likes: 0
From: Northbrook, IL
I don't dig the back of the Si's and the spoiler is a little awkward for my taste. Though thr front looks nice, esp with HID's
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 01:17 AM
  #47  
BustedJack's Avatar
The Boss
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,375
Likes: 0
From: New Jack City
The new 2006 Si has HID? R-E-A-L-L-Y, wow! That's impressive!
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 01:35 AM
  #48  
MarbleGT's Avatar
'08 MX5 GT 6spd.
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 6,234
Likes: 1,192
From: The Lone Star State
Originally Posted by AcuraDriver2006
The new 2006 Si has HID? R-E-A-L-L-Y, wow! That's impressive!
i think he meant aftermarktet.....but if they do come with it(i didnt see them on the website) thats yet another civic first that is awesome. Seriously...22,xxx (+/-) for a fully loaded civic?...not bad.
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 11:42 AM
  #49  
jnumata's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 147
Likes: 2
From: Seattle
Originally Posted by 65 Fury Convert
What the hell are you talking bout Willis? "I heard". Heard from who? Some guy your brothers friends sisters uncles brother knows? They test using the optimal launch just like every other mag.
Sorry man - I didn't hear I read it in the mag. They were testing the new Z06 when it first came out and were getting 0-60 times of like 4.5. There were a ton of readers writing in asking what was up since all other mags and dealer claims were rating it under 4 seconds. The editors of R&T said that they make full complete shifts taking their foot completely off the gas between shifts - just as you would with a daily driver.
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 11:52 AM
  #50  
jnumata's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 147
Likes: 2
From: Seattle
Originally Posted by 65 Fury Convert
What the hell are you talking bout Willis? "I heard". Heard from who? Some guy your brothers friends sisters uncles brother knows? They test using the optimal launch just like every other mag.
Actually, I found the article. Here is the quote, "Our philosophy in acceleration testing for the past 58 years is to reach results that an above-average driver/owner can also duplicate; it is not our goal to record the absolute quickest time while abusing the car....Chevrolet reports its acceleration figures using the speed-shifting technigue (no-lift throttle during upshifts), which can turn in faster times but is not conducive to powertrain longevity."

Sorry man, but you just got
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 11:55 AM
  #51  
corey415's Avatar
Pro
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 716
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco
Originally Posted by o2cls
i think he meant aftermarktet.....but if they do come with it(i didnt see them on the website) thats yet another civic first that is awesome. Seriously...22,xxx (+/-) for a fully loaded civic?...not bad.

They dont come with HID. Only Honda that has HID is the s2000.

Keep in mind that Civic SIs are hard to come by. Most dealers add a markup so it may be difficult to get one at MSRP, unless you are willing to wait a while.
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 01:24 PM
  #52  
vishnus11's Avatar
Three Wheelin'
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,622
Likes: 2
From: Lexington
Originally Posted by jnumata
Actually, I found the article. Here is the quote, "Our philosophy in acceleration testing for the past 58 years is to reach results that an above-average driver/owner can also duplicate; it is not our goal to record the absolute quickest time while abusing the car....Chevrolet reports its acceleration figures using the speed-shifting technigue (no-lift throttle during upshifts), which can turn in faster times but is not conducive to powertrain longevity."

Sorry man, but you just got
I was about to back ya up beacuse I read that statement from R&T after the whole Z06 deal, but it looks like you got things covered

SpeedyV6: An S2k puts down around 210-215 at the wheels. Regardless, its considerably quicker than an Si.
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 01:27 PM
  #53  
65 Fury Convert's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,637
Likes: 21
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 02:29 PM
  #54  
Tennisjon2002's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,157
Likes: 0
From: Chapel Hill / Raleigh, NC
jnumata do u have an si? I have a galaxy grey one. It is a sweet car. It isn't insanely fast but it handles great and is a blast to drive/ very practicle and imho the best blend of a car for me.
A stock si is rated at 197 hp. It isn't going to put down 197 on a dyno. here is one that put down 197 with I/H/E
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1569592
dyno's on a stock si have been put out up to 188 hp, not to bad.
IMHO it is a great car for the money, but it clearly isn't an s2000 etc.
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 03:50 PM
  #55  
65 Fury Convert's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,637
Likes: 21
Originally Posted by jnumata
It may sound like BS. But Monday I ran a new Mustang GT Convertible from 80 to 110 and lost by only 1 car (My nose was at the rear bumper). The chick driving stopped at a rest stop so I stopped to talk. It was an Auto. This is a pretty good zone for the Si. 80 mph puts the Si at the low end of vtec in 4th.
Wait you raced a Mustang and you lost.......and it was an automatic......and it was driven by a girl......you got owned

Nice car though - I like the SI

THE END
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 04:42 PM
  #56  
jnumata's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 147
Likes: 2
From: Seattle
It's not like I thought I was going to win. Just thought I'd have some fun. Wouldn't you try if a chick in convertible mustang was edging you on?
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 06:09 PM
  #57  
heyitsme's Avatar
Safety Car
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,426
Likes: 0
From: philly
Originally Posted by AcuraDriver2006
hmmmmm..... very interesting topic.
Perhaps some magazines under-rated the Si in 1/4 performance. If the 2006 Civic Si can do 15.2 or even 14.9 (for argument sakes, between 15.2 ~ 14.9) that's damn good for that little car.
I have only seen one on the road and it's sexy. I think the new design of the civic looks the best among the past gens. However, with just intake, exhaust... I don't see cutting down to 14.2. I'll give it at 14.6 for a really experience 1/4 mile driver because many of them are rookie drivers. How many of them really hit the tracks and can really hault down 1/4 that well?...........
Without any kind of F/I, I just don't see the civic doing 13.8.
Unlikely for a small engine, but think I remember reading on clubsi the rsxs running low 14's with i/e/h prob with hondata, same with the celica gts. Think is resonable the si can do the same, maybe even a 13.9 which is really no different than low 14's other than bragging rights.

Last edited by heyitsme; May 6, 2006 at 06:12 PM.
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 04:25 PM
  #58  
drewJ32A2's Avatar
drewLS6 soon
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 477
Likes: 1
From: texas
06 si and 05+ rsx-s in straight line acceleration will depend on the driver. Ive raced a stock Si in my Rsx and beat it badly but i ahve mods. Im gonna go to a 1/4 track sometime soon and try to break into the 13s. not sure if i will becuase im on stock tires.
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 05:54 PM
  #59  
jts1207's Avatar
Duck Fuke!
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,975
Likes: 2
From: Back in NC
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar.../60419006/1012
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 07:43 PM
  #60  
Tennisjon2002's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,157
Likes: 0
From: Chapel Hill / Raleigh, NC
that is a good comparison. I love the GTi also but there were 3 things that kept me away from even test driving it: the higher price, the UGLY seats unless you pay more for leather and the electrical/everything problems that I would expect from a VW.
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 07:49 PM
  #61  
BustedJack's Avatar
The Boss
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,375
Likes: 0
From: New Jack City
Quote from the article
"Honda is around two-tenths of a second slower than the VW, posting a 6.53-second time to 60 mph, and a 14.93-second run at 95.7 mph for the quarter-mile.

."

^ Not bad at all for getting 14.93. But realize it's their BEST run, and I assume many runs are well into low 15s. Have that said, at 14.93 isn't a bad number for 197hp vehicle. So as I stated, running low 14s or 13.9 is kind of impossible without any modification.
Reply
Old May 9, 2006 | 08:40 PM
  #62  
BustedJack's Avatar
The Boss
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,375
Likes: 0
From: New Jack City
I was at the track tonight and saw the new 2006 Civic Si ran 3 times in 1/4 at ATCO raceway.

15.56, 15.3, and 15.4
Reply
Old May 10, 2006 | 08:46 AM
  #63  
CedNBHTL's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 652
Likes: 0
From: North Side
Guy on honda tech ran a 14.2 @96.27 with greddy evo catback exhaust and there's a video http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1610467











Reply
Old May 10, 2006 | 08:57 AM
  #64  
F23A4's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 18,017
Likes: 1,737
Pretty impressive. Seems as though the official stock hp is vastly underrrated OR the Si has the most efficient tranny on the market.

Last edited by F23A4; May 10, 2006 at 09:01 AM.
Reply
Old May 10, 2006 | 10:18 AM
  #65  
SpeedyV6's Avatar
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 7,516
Likes: 1
From: Lakeway, TX
That's as good as or better than a CL-S would do!
Reply
Old May 10, 2006 | 01:50 PM
  #66  
DownUnder's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,054
Likes: 0
From: Sunshine State
Originally Posted by CedNBHTL
Guy on honda tech ran a 14.2 @96.27 with greddy evo catback exhaust and there's a video http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1610467
I posted that vid earlier in this thread.
Reply
Old May 10, 2006 | 02:10 PM
  #67  
PixelHarmony's Avatar
Thread Starter
Master Graphic Artist
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,859
Likes: 0
From: Northbrook, IL
Originally Posted by AcuraDriver2006
The new 2006 Si has HID? R-E-A-L-L-Y, wow! That's impressive!
Yeah I meant aftermarket HID
Reply
Old May 10, 2006 | 07:02 PM
  #68  
phile's Avatar
Pinky all stinky
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 20,679
Likes: 194
For whatever reason I just thought of this thread when I saw it.
Vroom vroom...


Reply
Old May 10, 2006 | 07:29 PM
  #69  
jnumata's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 147
Likes: 2
From: Seattle
Reply
Old May 10, 2006 | 08:10 PM
  #70  
DownUnder's Avatar
Drifting
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,054
Likes: 0
From: Sunshine State
Ouch that sucks, but at least it looks like the roof held up very well.
Reply
Old May 10, 2006 | 10:26 PM
  #71  
F900's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 4,994
Likes: 0
From: S Florida
^^ whats the details ?
Reply
Old May 11, 2006 | 05:10 AM
  #72  
F23A4's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 18,017
Likes: 1,737
Originally Posted by DownUnder
Ouch that sucks, but at least it looks like the roof held up very well.

Safety definitely was NOT neglected by Honda in developing the Civic coupe.
Reply
Old May 11, 2006 | 07:10 AM
  #73  
Time For Sleeep's Avatar
That's Racist
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 5,634
Likes: 0
From: San Diego native. UCLA resident. =)
Originally Posted by F900
^^ whats the details ?
12 year old lookin' kid (16) in purple/blue striped shirt drives brand new civic SI (no plates yet) to a meet; miscalculates some sort of turn, hits a rock of sorts (the fucking mountain) and flips his shit.

Parents buy him a new GTi
Reply
Old May 11, 2006 | 08:11 AM
  #74  
BustedJack's Avatar
The Boss
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,375
Likes: 0
From: New Jack City
that's a shame
Reply
Old May 11, 2006 | 09:54 AM
  #75  
CL Platano's Avatar
Tristate ViP Crew
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 14,089
Likes: 1
From: North Jersey
lol the moron just took it off the lot and decided to try and drift a civic and drifted right into the mountain. Gotta love kids with new cars. When my son gets old enough to drive I'm buying him a 76 Cadillac
Reply
Old May 11, 2006 | 09:59 AM
  #76  
phile's Avatar
Pinky all stinky
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 20,679
Likes: 194
Originally Posted by Time For Sleeep
hits a rock of sorts (the fucking mountain)
Reply
Old May 11, 2006 | 10:00 AM
  #77  
nasalcedo03's Avatar
Cruisin'
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
From: NJ
Hah, would get my son a 90 Volvo.

After an accident like that, he would be driving a Huffy....











with training wheels
Reply
Old May 11, 2006 | 10:17 AM
  #78  
MarbleGT's Avatar
'08 MX5 GT 6spd.
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 6,234
Likes: 1,192
From: The Lone Star State
Originally Posted by CL Platano
lol the moron just took it off the lot and decided to try and drift a civic and drifted right into the mountain. Gotta love kids with new cars. When my son gets old enough to drive I'm buying him a 76 Cadillac
...the mountain would probably flip before the car did.
Reply
Old May 11, 2006 | 10:42 AM
  #79  
F23A4's Avatar
Senior Moderator
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 18,017
Likes: 1,737
Originally Posted by o2cls
...the mountain would probably flip before the car did.

Reply
Old May 11, 2006 | 10:44 AM
  #80  
agranado's Avatar
how handsome I am
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 12,983
Likes: 1
From: Miami, FL
Originally Posted by phile
For whatever reason I just thought of this thread when I saw it.
Vroom vroom...



what the fuck. That kids a god damn retard.

the one in the middle with the striped shirt? fuck that kid! He looks like he should be wearing a bib and a bonnet!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
MrHeeltoe
1G TSX Tires, Wheels, & Suspension
20
Feb 23, 2023 01:54 PM
MrHeeltoe
2G TSX Tires, Wheels & Suspension
3
Sep 29, 2015 10:43 PM
San Yasin
2G RDX (2013-2018)
21
Sep 29, 2015 10:52 AM
MrHeeltoe
3G TL Tires, Wheels & Suspension
0
Sep 28, 2015 05:43 PM
thegipper
3G TL (2004-2008)
5
Sep 28, 2015 01:01 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:11 PM.