2003 Honda Accord EX-L V6 OR 2003 Acura TL Type S
#43
Maybe the 4-speeds? The 7G Accord was the one that moved to the 5-speed automatic, though I do know the 1998 Accord was referred to as The Year of the Bad Transmission by my local dealer's service department.
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Good suggestion nonetheless.
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Apparently over 1 million vehicles were affected by the transmission issue, but I don't know the number of Accords vs. the number of TLs that were recalled. I would be willing to bet that there were more TLs recalled for the five-speed transmission issues than the five speed Accords based on percentage.
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Why not just get a 4-cylinder Accord?
Pretty much exactly like my car. In all honesty, the V6 isn't a great deal faster in normal driving, and highway mileage in the 4-cylinder Accord is pretty damn good. High 30s are very common on road trips. I was able to make a 1100 km trip with 4 adults and luggage to the beach and back. 70-85 mph solidly the entire way. I had plenty of fuel when I got back, I'd say about 1/8 to 1/4. From what I hear, the A/Ts are bulletproof as well.
Give it a thought, or a test drive.
It's worth noting that the TL-S is a good bit cheaper than the Accords. However the Accord's interior (IMO) blows the TL-S and pretty much every other family sedan of its time out of the water.
Pretty much exactly like my car. In all honesty, the V6 isn't a great deal faster in normal driving, and highway mileage in the 4-cylinder Accord is pretty damn good. High 30s are very common on road trips. I was able to make a 1100 km trip with 4 adults and luggage to the beach and back. 70-85 mph solidly the entire way. I had plenty of fuel when I got back, I'd say about 1/8 to 1/4. From what I hear, the A/Ts are bulletproof as well.
Give it a thought, or a test drive.
It's worth noting that the TL-S is a good bit cheaper than the Accords. However the Accord's interior (IMO) blows the TL-S and pretty much every other family sedan of its time out of the water.
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OK.
Apparently over 1 million vehicles were affected by the transmission issue, but I don't know the number of Accords vs. the number of TLs that were recalled. I would be willing to bet that there were more TLs recalled for the five-speed transmission issues than the five speed Accords based on percentage.
Apparently over 1 million vehicles were affected by the transmission issue, but I don't know the number of Accords vs. the number of TLs that were recalled. I would be willing to bet that there were more TLs recalled for the five-speed transmission issues than the five speed Accords based on percentage.
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Why not just get a 4-cylinder Accord?
Pretty much exactly like my car. In all honesty, the V6 isn't a great deal faster in normal driving, and highway mileage in the 4-cylinder Accord is pretty damn good. High 30s are very common on road trips. I was able to make a 1100 km trip with 4 adults and luggage to the beach and back. 70-85 mph solidly the entire way. I had plenty of fuel when I got back, I'd say about 1/8 to 1/4. From what I hear, the A/Ts are bulletproof as well.
Give it a thought, or a test drive.
It's worth noting that the TL-S is a good bit cheaper than the Accords. However the Accord's interior (IMO) blows the TL-S and pretty much every other family sedan of its time out of the water.
Pretty much exactly like my car. In all honesty, the V6 isn't a great deal faster in normal driving, and highway mileage in the 4-cylinder Accord is pretty damn good. High 30s are very common on road trips. I was able to make a 1100 km trip with 4 adults and luggage to the beach and back. 70-85 mph solidly the entire way. I had plenty of fuel when I got back, I'd say about 1/8 to 1/4. From what I hear, the A/Ts are bulletproof as well.
Give it a thought, or a test drive.
It's worth noting that the TL-S is a good bit cheaper than the Accords. However the Accord's interior (IMO) blows the TL-S and pretty much every other family sedan of its time out of the water.
We looked at the Accords and personally I didn't like their interiors.
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Then I'd have to get the 7.5G version as a power sunroof is a must have for the wife and that would really stretch my budget. Not to mention, I've driven an 06 AV6h and the handling was simply terrible. So off the cuff, getting one would necessitate an upgraded wheel package at a minimum. (I do like the fact that it's made in Japan...but surprisingly, the one that I test drove was actually a rattlebox unlike my Ohio built AV6).
Good suggestion nonetheless.
Good suggestion nonetheless.
I still think the Accord will be so much cheaper on multiple levels to own that it's worth any extra performance you get in the Acura or few extra features.
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Compared to the TL of its respective generation (ie- 2003-2007 Accord and 2004-2008 TL), you're right. But having spent time in both the 2G TL and the 6-8G Accords, I can say the 7G has at the very minimum as good an interior as the 2G TL, but it wins compared to the Acura in my playbook based on its more modern design. And I still don't think the 8G has gotten to 3G TL levels of the interior either.
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Why not just get a 4-cylinder Accord?
Pretty much exactly like my car. In all honesty, the V6 isn't a great deal faster in normal driving, and highway mileage in the 4-cylinder Accord is pretty damn good. High 30s are very common on road trips. I was able to make a 1100 km trip with 4 adults and luggage to the beach and back. 70-85 mph solidly the entire way. I had plenty of fuel when I got back, I'd say about 1/8 to 1/4. From what I hear, the A/Ts are bulletproof as well.
Give it a thought, or a test drive.
Pretty much exactly like my car. In all honesty, the V6 isn't a great deal faster in normal driving, and highway mileage in the 4-cylinder Accord is pretty damn good. High 30s are very common on road trips. I was able to make a 1100 km trip with 4 adults and luggage to the beach and back. 70-85 mph solidly the entire way. I had plenty of fuel when I got back, I'd say about 1/8 to 1/4. From what I hear, the A/Ts are bulletproof as well.
Give it a thought, or a test drive.
Though far removed from being the quickest, sportiest or most fuel efficient midsize sedan, I was able to average 30mpg between central NJ and Va Beach last year while hauling me, wife, wife's aunt, my adult daughter, toddler daughter (w/car seat) and trunk packed with luggage and baby stuff in my 07 AV6. So, I definitely view the 7G AV6 as the ultimate in compromise.
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Why not just get a 4-cylinder Accord?
Pretty much exactly like my car. In all honesty, the V6 isn't a great deal faster in normal driving, and highway mileage in the 4-cylinder Accord is pretty damn good. High 30s are very common on road trips. I was able to make a 1100 km trip with 4 adults and luggage to the beach and back. 70-85 mph solidly the entire way. I had plenty of fuel when I got back, I'd say about 1/8 to 1/4. From what I hear, the A/Ts are bulletproof as well.
Give it a thought, or a test drive.
It's worth noting that the TL-S is a good bit cheaper than the Accords. However the Accord's interior (IMO) blows the TL-S and pretty much every other family sedan of its time out of the water.
Pretty much exactly like my car. In all honesty, the V6 isn't a great deal faster in normal driving, and highway mileage in the 4-cylinder Accord is pretty damn good. High 30s are very common on road trips. I was able to make a 1100 km trip with 4 adults and luggage to the beach and back. 70-85 mph solidly the entire way. I had plenty of fuel when I got back, I'd say about 1/8 to 1/4. From what I hear, the A/Ts are bulletproof as well.
Give it a thought, or a test drive.
It's worth noting that the TL-S is a good bit cheaper than the Accords. However the Accord's interior (IMO) blows the TL-S and pretty much every other family sedan of its time out of the water.
I do agree though that the interior of the 03-07 accord EX-L V6 is nicer than the 2nd gen TL IMO.
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Why on earth would Honda put a better interior in their non-luxury brand vs their luxury brand? They won't and NEVER WILL. So to think the Accord will have a better interior over a Acura ever is just dumb.
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Do you honestly think that the 1G TL still has a better interior than any Accord up to today?
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Honda put a "better" interior in the TL because that's what they perceived at the time to be better. That's it.
Some people hate sportshift. Some people like the more interior room of the Accord than the TL (at least of the 7th-gen Accord vs. the 2nd gen TL). It's all a matter of perception. So to simply say a blanket statement like that is, well,
To get back on subject, FA23A4, I would get the Accord.
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with regard to normal driving and I've driven each sedan version; test driving the K24 5AT and AV6h while leasing the AV6 5AT for three years. The 4 cyl did feel a little quicker off the line than the other two and would be a bit marginally cheaper to acquire and maintain. My caveat: I have a penchant for dwelling in the triple digits occasionally and have found the AV6 (while not overly) more suited for said fetish of mine than the K24 which runs out of steam just as the J30A5 is about to make itself heard.
Though far removed from being the quickest, sportiest or most fuel efficient midsize sedan, I was able to average 30mpg between central NJ and Va Beach last year while hauling me, wife, wife's aunt, my adult daughter, toddler daughter (w/car seat) and trunk packed with luggage and baby stuff in my 07 AV6. So, I definitely view the 7G AV6 as the ultimate in compromise.
Though far removed from being the quickest, sportiest or most fuel efficient midsize sedan, I was able to average 30mpg between central NJ and Va Beach last year while hauling me, wife, wife's aunt, my adult daughter, toddler daughter (w/car seat) and trunk packed with luggage and baby stuff in my 07 AV6. So, I definitely view the 7G AV6 as the ultimate in compromise.
I think the V6 is a great deal faster in normal driving. I have driven my friends 03 accord coupe K24 and let me tell you its night and day against the V6. Turn on the A/C and load the car with passsengers and its even more drastic.
I do agree though that the interior of the 03-07 accord EX-L V6 is nicer than the 2nd gen TL IMO.
I do agree though that the interior of the 03-07 accord EX-L V6 is nicer than the 2nd gen TL IMO.
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The 2G interior looks better than any Accord Interior even the current model.
2G TL Interior
vs last model accord and current accord interior.
Current
3G TL
4G TL
2G TL Interior
vs last model accord and current accord interior.
Current
3G TL
4G TL
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Judging from the pictures posted above:
1. 3G TL
2. 7G Accord
3. 4G TL
5. 8G Accord
6. 2G TL
Personal preference, but 7G Accord is much better than 2G TL's interior, especially the centre console.
1. 3G TL
2. 7G Accord
3. 4G TL
5. 8G Accord
6. 2G TL
Personal preference, but 7G Accord is much better than 2G TL's interior, especially the centre console.
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haha pimpin-tl is really pleading his case. Luckily Honda is Acura and the honda/acura corp. has always done a great job with the interior. IMO honda and acura have the class leading interiors. Very luxurious for what you pay for. The 7th and 8th gen accord though have nicer interiors than the 2nd gen TL IMO. We could argue that fact all day long though haha
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Well coming from someone is isn't biased since I don't own a 2G or a Accord and the 2G is better. My friend has a new Accord and just bought a 2G TL-S because he likes it better and they drive it more often because it's more comfortable, and has a nicer interior.
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That's driving me nuts for some reason.
IT'S F23A4 G**DAMMIT! F23A4!
There. Now I feel better
IT'S F23A4 G**DAMMIT! F23A4!
There. Now I feel better
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I really liked the 2G TL-S and almost bought one, but I defected to Lexus with the new ES300. And then I bit on a 2004 TL.
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As far as the 3G TL interior: be it TL or TL-S, it has the nicest interior of any sedan with a pricepoint < $50k (and better than some north of $50k)....add the SH-AWD powertrain from the 4G TL and it would be the perfect sedan for me.
Back directly on topic: I like the 2G TL-S leather and seat supportiveness far more than what was in my 07 AV6 but the Accord does have a better dashboard layout. However, the cons on the interior of either are not enough to be dealbreakers as far as I'm concerned. Both are comfortable and fairly well laid out in this department.
gatr, I'm shooting for sub-$10k.
Back directly on topic: I like the 2G TL-S leather and seat supportiveness far more than what was in my 07 AV6 but the Accord does have a better dashboard layout. However, the cons on the interior of either are not enough to be dealbreakers as far as I'm concerned. Both are comfortable and fairly well laid out in this department.
gatr, I'm shooting for sub-$10k.
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For that, I'd get the latest-model Accord you can.
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I have an 04 Coupe 5MT and really wish I would have gotten the 6/6. However it's my DD/beater so it does a fine job.
I vote for the Accord V6. Try, beg so it can be a 6 speed this time.
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I REALLY hear you man. ESPECIALLY with respect to the 7.5G AV6 6MT being a seriously underrated sports sedan, due mainly to its family sedan clothing. But, she'll be the primary driver so that'll be a fat
While she is more than proficient with driving a manual tranny (she taught me stick when we were dating), she has no interest in returning from the dark side!
Her only exception to that rule is if it's a BMW.
While she is more than proficient with driving a manual tranny (she taught me stick when we were dating), she has no interest in returning from the dark side!
Her only exception to that rule is if it's a BMW.
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Higher quality trim pieces, every surface in the 1st gen TL is a spongy plastic, not hard for example. The pillars and ceiling have a 'velvet' texture instead of plastic.
The leather is higher quality than ANY Accord as well.
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I REALLY hear you man. ESPECIALLY with respect to the 7.5G AV6 6MT being a seriously underrated sports sedan, due mainly to its family sedan clothing. But, she'll be the primary driver so that'll be a fat
While she is more than proficient with driving a manual tranny (she taught me stick when we were dating), she has no interest in returning from the dark side!
Her only exception to that rule is if it's a BMW.
While she is more than proficient with driving a manual tranny (she taught me stick when we were dating), she has no interest in returning from the dark side!
Her only exception to that rule is if it's a BMW.
On a side note, I bet if you put her into a 7.5 6MT blindfolded and told her it was a BMW she'd believe you immediately. Then crash
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The whole bottom half of the dash is hard as anything in the industry. The buttons, trimmings, accents, etc., it's all worse. Doesn't even come close to comparing.
Interiors are subjective but this is like saying a 2G TL's interior is better than the 3-4G. I mean you can SAY it, but....