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Old 05-29-2012, 04:23 PM
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Well...sh*t...Nikon D3 died

Yeah...this isn't a "car needed an oil change" thread.

I got a legitimate bite to sell my camera locally before boxing it up and shipping to the amazon buyer.

So, I met with the guy...he put in a sandisk extreme CF card, attached his Nikkor 28-70 zoom and started snapping away...camera was working great.

Then he went to test continuous focus mode and we kept getting a r33 error...uh what???

Well...after that the camera just died. I could not turn it on, both lcd displays were dead. Needless to say I was embarrassed and angry.

Called my NPS rep as I was driving back...turns out NPS is located in my backyard so I dropped the camera off and hope to have an estimate tomorrow.

They had said they had never heard of that before...so I hope to hell they find something and offer to cover it out of warranty...otherwise she estimated repairs could cost as much as $471.00

Only upsides...Im getting the rear LCD replaced (had the fogging issue the D3s were prone to...didnt affect anything, but people don't like to see it when they want to buy it)

And the dude is still interested in buying its fixed...but fuck there went the extra profit I was hoping for.

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that sucks man, sorry to hear... hope everything works out
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ack. sorry to hear, that stinks! hope it works out ok.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:50 PM
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whats the milage? I almost want to speculate his car f'd up the camera but that's highly highly unlikely.
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Originally Posted by sixsixfour
whats the milage? I almost want to speculate his car f'd up the camera but that's highly highly unlikely.
Camera is around 3 years old, never had an issue like that and only has 17k on the shutter.

Once in a blue moon I'd get the AF r33 error...but I;d just re-seat the lens and go on my marry way.

The lady at NPS mentioned its rare..but they have seen cards down a camera before. I can't see how or why that would have happened. Especially since everything was working just fine to begin with.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Camera is around 3 years old, never had an issue like that and only has 17k on the shutter.

Once in a blue moon I'd get the AF r33 error...but I;d just re-seat the lens and go on my marry way.

The lady at NPS mentioned its rare..but they have seen cards down a camera before. I can't see how or why that would have happened. Especially since everything was working just fine to begin with.

yeah that is strange. could it be corrosion on his lens' electronic contacts? maybe it caused a short?

either way, im sorry to hear what happened. i guess the good thing is he's still willing to buy it. hope it works out for you man.
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Originally Posted by sixsixfour
yeah that is strange. could it be corrosion on his lens' electronic contacts? maybe it caused a short?

either way, im sorry to hear what happened. i guess the good thing is he's still willing to buy it. hope it works out for you man.
Well, I say potentially still willing...aint shit til he hands over the money.

All I can find on this subject is someone who bought a D3s over a year ago and had it do the same thing...Nikon said the main board shorted, replaced it...and it shorted a 2nd time while they were testing it....finally fixed it and returned it. But that happened to them within 30 days of buying the body.

I can't imagine its his lens. It was very clean, looked new (it wasn't)

Its just a real shot in the nuts right now.
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yikes, sorry to hear. Hope everything works out for you.
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damn man, sorry to hear.
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yep, I bet it was the card

I've also seen errors with lens / body connection, but nothing that killed the camera.
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Still waiting to hear from them about it, a phone call didn't get me very far...not really at point worth escalating it.

From the "what caused it" front...will be hard to prove it was the guys card if THAT was the cause...and harder to try and go after him for the additional cost of repair...so I'm just kinda buttfucked on that end.

But lesson to all...if you are selling gear and someone comes to test it....use your stuff, not theirs.
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I am forced to change my offer to $250 and visitation rights
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They say the DC power board went. Haven't heard a reason as to what might have caused that.

Not very impressed with how you speak to Nikon reps...basically you're stuck speaking with the low rent phone ops, who are outsourced and have attitudes...and to get through them you have to email people that gets ciphered through them. Highly annoying.

Saving grace as of now...a $500 repair turned into a $350 repair...
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
They say the DC power board went. Haven't heard a reason as to what might have caused that.

Not very impressed with how you speak to Nikon reps...basically you're stuck speaking with the low rent phone ops, who are outsourced and have attitudes...and to get through them you have to email people that gets ciphered through them. Highly annoying.

Saving grace as of now...a $500 repair turned into a $350 repair...
That's no fun but at least it happened before it was sold!
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Finally got the camera back today.

The price came down from the original quote thankfully. And they did a lot of extra stuff, new grips (even though mine were still newish) adjusting the mirror, etc. I had the LCD cover replaced as it had the famous fogging issue.

This thing is like brand new now, and Nikon covers it for 6 months...so hopefully that will be an added selling point.

And to add to that...you have to PAY to sell on fredmiranda.com.....WTF?!?!?!
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Finally got the camera back today.

The price came down from the original quote thankfully. And they did a lot of extra stuff, new grips (even though mine were still newish) adjusting the mirror, etc. I had the LCD cover replaced as it had the famous fogging issue.

This thing is like brand new now, and Nikon covers it for 6 months...so hopefully that will be an added selling point.

And to add to that...you have to PAY to sell on fredmiranda.com.....WTF?!?!?!
It's only $9.00 for 30 days (has different rates as well), it's a free site otherwise, needs to make a little to keep it going, he does a great job.
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I may try it after a couple days...seems like all the D3's that end up on there sell.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
I may try it after a couple days...seems like all the D3's that end up on there sell.
It's a good site, not a lot scamming going on there. I sold damn near all of my Canon gear there and not one bad deal. A few since then as well. Just make sure they have been there for awhile and participate in the forums. Not one that joined five years ago and has two post.

Also Fred has a feedback system for the B&S.
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cool thanks...im sure ill be suspect as i have no posts on there...he
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cool thanks...im sure ill be suspect as i have no posts on there...he
Once you post, I can vouch for you if you want.
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cool, thanks...im starting to post a tad in the forums...but not too much conversation of interest to me.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
once you post, i can vouch for you if you want.
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I just got an offer from CL...guy had posted a WTB ad.

I relisted my camera for 2800 (hoping the extra little warranty would be worth it) but I am open to his offer of 2500....but he wants to pay through paypal...and for a local sale I would rather cash.
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He says he is an eBay seller and thats where his funds are.

He said he can do a "personal transfer" to avoid the fees...should I be wary of this?


To preface this...Ive had good experiences buying like this on the challenger forums...just not sure how I might get fucked as a seller this way.

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Fuck that.. Cash is king.
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that doesn't really answer my question.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
He says he is an eBay seller and thats where his funds are.

He said he can do a "personal transfer" to avoid the fees...should I be wary of this?


To preface this...Ive had good experiences buying like this on the challenger forums...just not sure how I might get fucked as a seller this way.
If they start fidgeting and changing things as far as the funds are concerned, definitely be wary of it. A legit buyer is generally not going to do that, they are going to know where the funds are coming from and more often than not they will already have that part figured out and ready. I'm not saying this is not a legit buyer, just saying be wary, that's a red flag in my book.
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If they start fidgeting and changing things as far as the funds are concerned, definitely be wary of it. A legit buyer is generally not going to do that, they are going to know where the funds are coming from and more often than not they will already have that part figured out and ready. I'm not saying this is not a legit buyer, just saying be wary, that's a red flag in my book.
He isn't being flighty or changing anything.

Hell, he linked me to his WTB ad. Says on there is he has $2500 to paypal.

And that is what he is presenting me with in his emails as well.
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Im just curious if Im opening myself to getting bent over by taking a personal transfer via paypal.
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I just don't like the idea that paypal can yank your money back if he files a complaint.

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Add the Paypal fees to the cost. Specify that the goods will not be shipped until the funds have been successfully and completely transferred to your bank account.
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I just don't like the idea that paypal can yank your money back if he files a complaint.
that is a lot of money to be transferring via Paypal (I've never done anywhere near that amount and I would be hesitant to) - be wary.
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I guess ill ask him I can see his seller rating on ebay
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guy would be driving to me to pick up. I am wary...Ill see if I can check his seller profile. If he gets squirmy there...then ill back out.
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Hmm.. I read that personal payment has no buyer protection. Seems like he's taking the risk not you.

also, it's against their UA

Originally Posted by Paypal UA
4.1 Receiving Personal Payments. If you are selling goods or services, you may not ask the buyer to send you a Personal Payment for the purchase. If you do so, PayPal may remove your ability to accept Personal Payments.
Have you called Paypal to find out?

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A personal transfer is more on him than you. It doesn't come with the paypal guarantee to buyers. It's just a way for him to afford paying the fees.
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that is a lot of money to be transferring via Paypal (I've never done anywhere near that amount and I would be hesitant to) - be wary.
I did all of my Canon sell off with paypal, maybe one or two local cash. But at least 15k no problems. But that was over four years ago.
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guy would be driving to me to pick up. I am wary...Ill see if I can check his seller profile. If he gets squirmy there...then ill back out.
Just make sure it's a verified paypal account. Whenever I post, I stated that, I will only sell to verified paypal addresses. It's just one more way to be sure.

If he has that money in his account, if you need to, ask him to transfer to his bank and give you cash. Could take a couples days.


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