Two Nikon D90s. Two photographers. One shared subject.
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Two Nikon D90s. Two photographers. One shared subject.
Hello. My name is Eric. And i love cars.
I've been using a D90 over the last few years. I love it.
Today i'm going to show you the difference in results that my friend Faiz came up with and the results that I came up with during an afternoon photoshoot a couple years ago. The subject matter was my brother's S2000.
Faiz and myself were each using the same camera body, and with different lens. Faiz was using creative lighting techniques. At the time, I didn't know how to do that.
I believe he was using a pair of SB600s for his lighting.
Here are the shots that I came up with using the natural light.
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I've been using a D90 over the last few years. I love it.
Today i'm going to show you the difference in results that my friend Faiz came up with and the results that I came up with during an afternoon photoshoot a couple years ago. The subject matter was my brother's S2000.
Faiz and myself were each using the same camera body, and with different lens. Faiz was using creative lighting techniques. At the time, I didn't know how to do that.
I believe he was using a pair of SB600s for his lighting.
Here are the shots that I came up with using the natural light.
Thanks for lurkin!
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I dislike flash photography for the most part. You really have to know how to use it.
That said...with a little processing, your shots could actually look much better than his.
Profile shots typically are boring, but I shoot them myself. The car is too close to the edge barrier. Distance makes for depth. Depth makes for subjects popping. The barrier is too high to solely depend on the Charlotte skyline to give the depth.
3/4 shots should attempt to at least show SOME of the opposing headlight.
And most important, watch your verticals. All your shots are a hair down on the right.
Reprocess those first two shots of yours to stand out more and you'll have two pics that are superior to the ones your friend posted.
That said...with a little processing, your shots could actually look much better than his.
Profile shots typically are boring, but I shoot them myself. The car is too close to the edge barrier. Distance makes for depth. Depth makes for subjects popping. The barrier is too high to solely depend on the Charlotte skyline to give the depth.
3/4 shots should attempt to at least show SOME of the opposing headlight.
And most important, watch your verticals. All your shots are a hair down on the right.
Reprocess those first two shots of yours to stand out more and you'll have two pics that are superior to the ones your friend posted.
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I dislike flash photography for the most part. You really have to know how to use it.
That said...with a little processing, your shots could actually look much better than his.
Profile shots typically are boring, but I shoot them myself. The car is too close to the edge barrier. Distance makes for depth. Depth makes for subjects popping. The barrier is too high to solely depend on the Charlotte skyline to give the depth.
3/4 shots should attempt to at least show SOME of the opposing headlight.
And most important, watch your verticals. All your shots are a hair down on the right.
Reprocess those first two shots of yours to stand out more and you'll have two pics that are superior to the ones your friend posted.
That said...with a little processing, your shots could actually look much better than his.
Profile shots typically are boring, but I shoot them myself. The car is too close to the edge barrier. Distance makes for depth. Depth makes for subjects popping. The barrier is too high to solely depend on the Charlotte skyline to give the depth.
3/4 shots should attempt to at least show SOME of the opposing headlight.
And most important, watch your verticals. All your shots are a hair down on the right.
Reprocess those first two shots of yours to stand out more and you'll have two pics that are superior to the ones your friend posted.
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Since you mention it here, I have to say I have fallen in love with creating images with good bokeh. I am always looking to create distance between my subject, whatever it is, and the background. I am not experienced enough to know how well it would work here though, as it would blur out the cityscape as well which I think adds to the pictures.
Look at the last pic where the focus is on the camera body.
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I see what you mean. The pictures I have been experimenting with lately have resulted in completely our of focus backgrounds to the point you can't make out what it is. It REALLY makes the subject pop, but isn't always the look I am going for. Right now I am trying out the 17-55 f/2.8 that I rented for the week. I am looking to get at least one nice lens in the next few months if possible. With all the expenses I have had recently, it may take longer though. I also rented the 24-70 f.2.8 a few months back. I had a difficult time getting quality images with that lens. I think I need to read Understanding Exposure again and just keep practicing. Wish I knew some people around me that were really into photography that I could go out and learn from as well. The only friend I have into the hobby is in Florida
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I see what you mean. The pictures I have been experimenting with lately have resulted in completely our of focus backgrounds to the point you can't make out what it is. It REALLY makes the subject pop, but isn't always the look I am going for. Right now I am trying out the 17-55 f/2.8 that I rented for the week. I am looking to get at least one nice lens in the next few months if possible. With all the expenses I have had recently, it may take longer though. I also rented the 24-70 f.2.8 a few months back. I had a difficult time getting quality images with that lens. I think I need to read Understanding Exposure again and just keep practicing. Wish I knew some people around me that were really into photography that I could go out and learn from as well. The only friend I have into the hobby is in Florida
Biggest factor (after chip size) is your focal length. A longer lens will always have more shallow depth of field compared to its wider counter part. But you can still create shallow depth with a wide lens, too.
Aperture. The wider your aperture (more open) the more depth of field you help create. The more closed down you get, the more you help increase your DoF.
Distance of your focal plane (film plane/chip) from the subject. a wide lens further back from its subject will yield greater DoF then if you put that same lens closer to your subject.
Similar with a zoom...say you're on a 70-200...youre on the 70 and feel like you need more depth. Back up/zoom in....you have FAR less depth backing up an extra 5 feet and shooting on a 200.
Depending on what exactly you're shooting (action/stills) your shutter starts coming into play to further help you get to your desired aperture...or shooting effect.
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Just what I figured. Dude comes in here raising a stink pissing and moaning.
Asks for critique...makes one thread, receives critique...and disappears.
Typical.
And if I didn't type this reply...he would have never come back, either...just watch and see...
Asks for critique...makes one thread, receives critique...and disappears.
Typical.
And if I didn't type this reply...he would have never come back, either...just watch and see...
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sarlacc do you mind elaborating on how those photos could be processed more in order to showcase a better lighting and such? (i am assuming the lighting is what you were referring to in the pp comment)
thanks
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The pictures using the flash are very sourcy, lots of specular highlights, very artificial looking. Easy to look at it and say...they used a flash. Its not a good use of flash at all.
The non-flash pictures are a flatter more even lit image. Easier to deal with in post. No signs of "being lit"
So, some simple use of PP to help shape the image can make it a much more dramatic and appealing image.
How one processes the image to get a desired effect is the choice of the one processing. There are several ways to get a desired effect.
The non-flash pictures are a flatter more even lit image. Easier to deal with in post. No signs of "being lit"
So, some simple use of PP to help shape the image can make it a much more dramatic and appealing image.
How one processes the image to get a desired effect is the choice of the one processing. There are several ways to get a desired effect.
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If you are going to do any PP, always shoot RAW.
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uncompressed and lossless VS. compressed and lossey
The more you PP a JPEG, the more the compression shows. The more save revisions of the said JPEG...the more the image quality degrades.
Always work with the highest forms of resolution and work down...not vice versa.
The more you PP a JPEG, the more the compression shows. The more save revisions of the said JPEG...the more the image quality degrades.
Always work with the highest forms of resolution and work down...not vice versa.
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Everyone's comments are greatly appreciated.
It's time for a D800. I'm curious to see how crispy the photos will be with the use of a newer model body.
I've been practicing a lot with the D90 the past week and will share more photos soon.
It's time for a D800. I'm curious to see how crispy the photos will be with the use of a newer model body.
I've been practicing a lot with the D90 the past week and will share more photos soon.
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A d800 won't improve your photography. Plus you have no need for 36MP
You'd be better buying a d7000 or waiting for the next version of that.
You'd be better buying a d7000 or waiting for the next version of that.
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At first glance my untrained eye would say those first 2 pics look good. But now that you pointed it out, the lighting does look very artificial, over lit I would say. And the barrier is quite a distraction as well.
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I don't recall asking any questions in my post Sir.
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Well i've created three threads now, and i just did my first portrait shoot earlier of an aspiring model.
Should I make another thread or vanish into the abyss of the dark side...the three Gee Tee Ell sexshun?
Should I make another thread or vanish into the abyss of the dark side...the three Gee Tee Ell sexshun?
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Keep posting all you want. Doesn't bother me.
You're not bad, but you're not great either...so the question will be how you respond to critique or if you just stick your nose in the air.
At least your boy dingo seems willing to learn and ask questions.
You're not bad, but you're not great either...so the question will be how you respond to critique or if you just stick your nose in the air.
At least your boy dingo seems willing to learn and ask questions.
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I've now made three threads, and I'm still here.
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Yes...we keep score here in the photo thread.
The more threads you make with your photos, the better photographer you are...so hell, keep it up and you'll be better than all of us...
The more threads you make with your photos, the better photographer you are...so hell, keep it up and you'll be better than all of us...
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No one is better than anyone here. Everyone brings something to the table. Each person has their own talents.
Some might bring excellence in composition. Others in clarity. Some bring photos of things none of us have ever seen before.
I find a lot of my inspiration comes from viewing photos from other people.
At the end of the day, the question for everyone is.. 'Whom did you inspire'?
Some might bring excellence in composition. Others in clarity. Some bring photos of things none of us have ever seen before.
I find a lot of my inspiration comes from viewing photos from other people.
At the end of the day, the question for everyone is.. 'Whom did you inspire'?
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Is sarcasm always lost on you? Or just when your nose is in the air?
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Wow...hey synth...how sore is your dick after that? Read like a Dyson, no loss of suction.
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I saw that photo the other month and it still makes me laugh lol.
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Does your 32,000 posts make you a better photographer or a bigger daiquiri? Just curious.
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Don't start this bullshit again. It's an old thread and needs not be brought back to light. If you want to contribute that is one thing, but to post in an old thread with that shit, rediculous.
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Is there a point to digging up this thread up? Any point in starting this shit all over again.
Do you even know the history? No, ah ok...then shut the fuck and move along.
fucking retards.
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I'm about to go find a unicorn like that and put in on my bike and see what kind of looks I can get. lol
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