Pix from Infected Mushroom (srika's club pics thread)
10-25-2006, 10:32 PM
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Fantastic shots as always 
I agree that noise sometimes makes the shot. In some cases, if the lighting is ok, and the backdrop is good, shooting at high ISOs with no flash makes things look very cool. That pic you posted is a good example.
This is actually one of the reasons I got rid of my SD550 and bought an SD700IS - higher ISO + IS = some cool indoor night shots in the palm of my hand.
I agree that noise sometimes makes the shot. In some cases, if the lighting is ok, and the backdrop is good, shooting at high ISOs with no flash makes things look very cool. That pic you posted is a good example.
This is actually one of the reasons I got rid of my SD550 and bought an SD700IS - higher ISO + IS = some cool indoor night shots in the palm of my hand.
10-26-2006, 01:54 AM
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thx dawg.
I like how this one came out from Saturday @ Avalon, same principle.
I like how this one came out from Saturday @ Avalon, same principle.
10-26-2006, 02:57 AM
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10-26-2006, 03:02 AM
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10-26-2006, 03:16 AM
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thought this one came out well
10-26-2006, 05:42 AM
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Infected Mushroom & Victor Dinaire @ Avalon Hollywood 10/21/06
http://www.delobbo.com/gallery2/v/10...fected_avalon/
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10-26-2006, 11:37 PM
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well i think im pretty convinced that I need to switch to Canon to progress with club photography. 30D or 5D, I am thinking.
10-27-2006, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
well i think im pretty convinced that I need to switch to Canon to progress with club photography. 30D or 5D, I am thinking.
and now I am going to read this and try to understand f-stop better:
http://www.uscoles.com/fstop.htm
10-27-2006, 05:34 PM
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I think I also have an issue with f-stop. The primary lens I am using (the supplied one) is 3.5-4.5. I think I need one that is in the 1's - I think that will make a big difference.
and now I am going to read this and try to understand f-stop better:
http://www.uscoles.com/fstop.htm
and now I am going to read this and try to understand f-stop better:
http://www.uscoles.com/fstop.htm
10-27-2006, 05:52 PM
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^^ thanks, that's what I'm thinking. If I do find that the lens improves the quality of my pics, I will still have a desire to get something like a D80 or D200 - I think I may have a buyer for the D70.
10-27-2006, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
^^ thanks, that's what I'm thinking. If I do find that the lens improves the quality of my pics, I will still have a desire to get something like a D80 or D200 - I think I may have a buyer for the D70.
That said, there's no substitute for fast glass. Not IS, not ISO. Fast glass rules.
10-27-2006, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
Infected Mushroom & Victor Dinaire @ Avalon Hollywood 10/21/06
http://www.delobbo.com/gallery2/v/10...fected_avalon/
highlights:
http://www.delobbo.com/gallery2/v/10...fected_avalon/
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10-27-2006, 07:18 PM
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yea, I liked the paradox!
10-27-2006, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by waTSX
Speed is definitely your friend when it comes to glass, especially shooting in the conditions you do, but the set above is very nice. The quality of your club pics has improved within this thread alone.
That said, there's no substitute for fast glass. Not IS, not ISO. Fast glass rules.
That said, there's no substitute for fast glass. Not IS, not ISO. Fast glass rules.
Now for any given focal length or zoom range, a faster fixed f stop lens will almost always yield sharper results than a slower and/or variable focal ratio lens. How much sharper will of course vary. But almost always is to some degree or another. It's the nature of the optics.
10-28-2006, 12:31 AM
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Your club photography needs depth of field. If you got a 50mm f/1.8 for instance (I have one you can borrow) and shot it at f/1.8, for the most part you would be disappointed with the results because nearly everything would be out of focus.
Switching to a FF Canon system will yield better results at higher ISO, but don't expect miracles. You'll get 1 1/3 stop more for the same noise level, but vignetting (not much of a problem in club photography) and falloff in sharpness from the lens center may be more obvious.
10-28-2006, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Billiam
I'll preface what I'm about to say by stating that it's highly dependent on what you shoot. That out of the way, I have to disagree about the relative importance of fast glass. Think about it, in how many of your images would you consciously desire the shallow depth of field that results from shooting at f/2.8 or less? Probably not that many. So why be forced to sacrifice control over a major compositional element of your images (depth of field) by forcing yourself to rely on the low f numbers of fast glass when you can keep at least some control over that element and achieve the same results with IS or higher ISOs and noise reduction?
Now for any given focal length or zoom range, a faster fixed f stop lens will almost always yield sharper results than a slower and/or variable focal ratio lens. How much sharper will of course vary. But almost always is to some degree or another. It's the nature of the optics.
Now for any given focal length or zoom range, a faster fixed f stop lens will almost always yield sharper results than a slower and/or variable focal ratio lens. How much sharper will of course vary. But almost always is to some degree or another. It's the nature of the optics.
To svtmike, since DoF is a product of distance to subject and focal length as well as aperture, you can compensate for the wider aperture by simply moving further away from your subject. I wasn't suggesting necessarily shooting at 1.8, but I'd rather shoot at f2.8 with a lower ISO than f5.6 with a higher ISO in low light.
10-28-2006, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by waTSX
To svtmike, since DoF is a product of distance to subject and focal length as well as aperture, you can compensate for the wider aperture by simply moving further away from your subject. I wasn't suggesting necessarily shooting at 1.8, but I'd rather shoot at f2.8 with a lower ISO than f5.6 with a higher ISO in low light.
10-28-2006, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by waTSX
Speed is definitely your friend when it comes to glass, especially shooting in the conditions you do, but the set above is very nice. The quality of your club pics has improved within this thread alone.
That said, there's no substitute for fast glass. Not IS, not ISO. Fast glass rules.
That said, there's no substitute for fast glass. Not IS, not ISO. Fast glass rules.
) slightly blurred on stage in the background.
10-28-2006, 06:53 PM
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The pics have definitely gottn a lot better. I especially like the one with the guitar in focus in the foreground and the guy (sorry I haven't been paying attention to who your subjects are ) slightly blurred on stage in the background.
) slightly blurred on stage in the background.
That's my favorite too. 
10-31-2006, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Your club photography needs depth of field. If you got a 50mm f/1.8 for instance (I have one you can borrow) and shot it at f/1.8, for the most part you would be disappointed with the results because nearly everything would be out of focus.
Switching to a FF Canon system will yield better results at higher ISO, but don't expect miracles. You'll get 1 1/3 stop more for the same noise level, but vignetting (not much of a problem in club photography) and falloff in sharpness from the lens center may be more obvious.
10-31-2006, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
This is true but not necessarily an option in an enclosed space like a club.
10-31-2006, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by moeronn
The pics have definitely gottn a lot better. I especially like the one with the guitar in focus in the foreground and the guy (sorry I haven't been paying attention to who your subjects are ) slightly blurred on stage in the background.
) slightly blurred on stage in the background.
11-02-2006, 12:44 PM
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11-09-2006, 05:34 PM
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I find myself using Noise Ninja less and less. Indeed, for last Saturday's set, I didn't use it at all. Instead, I applied sharpening on a few shots, and that's about it, aside from the regular contrast adjustment, etc. I think I was kind of in a "NN phase", and I'm glad I'm moving away from it. Because I think ideally, you shouldn't have to use it. And, it has the potential of making your shots look worse!
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11-11-2006, 09:45 PM
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I officially started shooting for SKS Photography (Chicago) last night. It was pretty challenging because the way they wanted the shots broken down was, 80% crowd (close-ups), 10% artist, and 10% other - wide-angles, miscellaneous, etc. For the various club pictures I have been taking over the past months - with very very few exceptions - I have only been focusing on the latter 2. So last night was actually a new experience. That being said, I was kinda anxious about how the pics would come out - but for the most part, they came out OK. It was actually a lot of fun and I very much enjoyed it.
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i was actually wondering why you werent taking as many pictures of the crowd, cause from what ive seen from club photos there are like a few of the artist/club but alot more of the crowd.
11-12-2006, 11:38 AM
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just had a different focus.
11-12-2006, 03:34 PM
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my favorite shot:
11-12-2006, 06:21 PM
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heh.. forgot my link:
http://www.delobbo.com/gallery2/v/11...graham_spybar/
there are 15 extra pix in there that I thought were a little redundant, but still good.
http://www.delobbo.com/gallery2/v/11...graham_spybar/
there are 15 extra pix in there that I thought were a little redundant, but still good.
11-19-2006, 04:32 AM
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Nick Warren @ Vision... more later. just thought this was funny. 
11-20-2006, 12:42 AM
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what funny looking hair she has
11-24-2006, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
why does it look like its slightly out of focus?
11-24-2006, 08:11 PM
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Because it *is* out of focus. It was soft to begin with, instead of throwing it out I decided to make it into a "dreamy" kind of pic.
The tone of your post gives me the impression you think the 5D can't take bad pictures. No matter what camera you're using, the ultimate burden lies on the person behind the camera to take the pictures. Its not gonna take pix for you. You can take just as bad pics with the 5D or 1D or whatever as you can with a $1.49 disposable at Wal-mart.
I liked the artsy style of this pic. Don't worry, I got her in-focus too. :P
The tone of your post gives me the impression you think the 5D can't take bad pictures. No matter what camera you're using, the ultimate burden lies on the person behind the camera to take the pictures. Its not gonna take pix for you. You can take just as bad pics with the 5D or 1D or whatever as you can with a $1.49 disposable at Wal-mart.
I liked the artsy style of this pic. Don't worry, I got her in-focus too. :P
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Originally Posted by srika
Because it *is* out of focus. It was soft to begin with, instead of throwing it out I decided to make it into a "dreamy" kind of pic.
The tone of your post gives me the impression you think the 5D can't take bad pictures. No matter what camera you're using, the ultimate burden lies on the person behind the camera to take the pictures. Its not gonna take pix for you. You can take just as bad pics with the 5D or 1D or whatever as you can with a $1.49 disposable at Wal-mart.
I liked the artsy style of this pic. Don't worry, I got her in-focus too. :P
The tone of your post gives me the impression you think the 5D can't take bad pictures. No matter what camera you're using, the ultimate burden lies on the person behind the camera to take the pictures. Its not gonna take pix for you. You can take just as bad pics with the 5D or 1D or whatever as you can with a $1.49 disposable at Wal-mart.
I liked the artsy style of this pic. Don't worry, I got her in-focus too. :P
i know that even with a 2000 dollar camera or so you can take crummy pictures. i was just wondering if you purposely made it with that soft focus or didnt realize it
11-24-2006, 09:10 PM
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It almost looks to me like the point of focus is the girls hair in the foreground, hence the girl in the middle is a victim of DoF. I believe I read somewhere that FF cameras like the 5D have shallower DoF than do APS equipped cameras like the 30D.
So if you were shooting a 24-70 2.8 lens wide open, depth of field could be a little touchy in that situation. Might take a little while to adjust to the new cameras characteristics.
If I've got this wrong, somebody else should feel free to chime in.
So if you were shooting a 24-70 2.8 lens wide open, depth of field could be a little touchy in that situation. Might take a little while to adjust to the new cameras characteristics.
If I've got this wrong, somebody else should feel free to chime in.
