MrFluffy

Im not sure if I can shoot in raw, My camera is pretty new so im still figuring it out I tried photomatix but I didnt like the results it didnt seem like I had as many options to fine tune

do think there is a lot of noise because it is only one pic, and will noise ninja take that away or is it better just to multiple pics

Im new at this so all your feed back helps alot, thanks

Majofo

what kind of camera are you using? jpegs are severely limited.

MrFluffy

I know what your talking about photomatix looks alot nicer because its got the built in noise filter,but it seems like it has less options than photo dynamic (and its harder to use) I down loaded NN I am trying to figure it out.

Do you think its better to use multiple photos to get ride of the noise

when I use photomatix its a little easier to add contrast then Dyphoto

when you say raw what do you mean by that, because im not sure if I can shoot raw with my camera

BTW thanks for the advice!

2001AudiS4

RAW is an uncompressed image. With post-processing you can change certain aspects to an image, for instance, exposure. Its how many of us make HDR's, by taking one RAW image and creating 3 to 5 different exposures of the same image. Your camera is a Point-and-Shoot I believe. To my knowledge, no P&S takes RAW images. I could be wrong, but I am only aware of it on DSLR's. For your camera, you would want to set it to AEB and take multiple exposures with one click of the shutter button. It would help you tremendously if you use a tripod, unless you have EXTREMELY steady hands. A lot of people take it free hand, but you have to keep in mind that when you take multiple shots as you do in AEB mode, you can get a blur if there is ANY movement. If you are taking a picture of a landscape with trees for instance, and there is some wind that is slightly moving the branches, when you combine the images in Photomatix or whatever program you use, there will be a blur where the trees are.

bigeshorte45

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does my Rebel XTi have the RAW setting? maybe i need to go through a few more pages in this thread but... im kinda lost.

2001AudiS4

Yes, your Rebel can take RAW images. Just go in the settings to select the format you want to take pictures in. JPEG or RAW

drigo

thanks for the compliments guys

for those who are asking about noise...i find more when doing 1RAW file vs. doing 3 bracketed shots...below are samples of both techniques...when i did the ATV shots...i did 3 bracketed shots and set my AEB to -2 0 +2...they were shot handheld on burst mode...the lexus shots were from 1 RAW file..made 3 different exposures at -2 0 +2 using LR2 then ran through Photomatix...
i prefer doing bracketed shots but when shooting moving subjects its impossible...so it really depends on what your shooting....



bracketed shots...handheld using burst mode




1 RAW file

2001AudiS4

This is the first I have heard you say you use AEB

bigeshorte45

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Thanks... so if you don't mind me asking, whats the difference? or is there another link you could share for me? thanks for putting up with my noob questions

drigo

lol...its been a while..i've used the 1 RAW file technique more often cause it's easier when shooting "on the fly" not having to worry about tripods or whatnot..

jupitersolo

If you have high enough fps, we can do 3-5 images w/o tripod.

wackjum

Part of the problem is that your software is outputting highly compressed JPEG images. You can tell because there are compression artifacts in the watermark, which has nothing to do with the quality of the images you are taking.

I'm betting there's a setting somewhere to use larger jpeg files.

2001AudiS4

Here's a link:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-10...g=2547-1_3-0-5

bigeshorte45

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^Thanks, so i've been reading over the manual for my XTi online and when I go to the menu on my camera, then "Quality" theres only six options to choose from, and there is not a RAW+L or even a RAW setting to choose from... am I looking in the wrong area? because i'm pretty sure i've been through most of the settings in the last few minutes... Thanks for all the help in advance guys

jupitersolo

You are not going to see the selection for RAW if you're in AUTO "Green Box" mode.

MrFluffy

My hand is defintlely not steady enough, but I have set up my camera with AEB

Drigo, Is it me or does the 1 raw file look alot better
I wondering how you get the car so shiny ?????? its awesssoooommmeeee

wakjum, thanks for the tip I will check tommorow

I was wondering I have a canon sx20 is I dont think I can shoot raw but can anyone confirm

drigo

make sure you're in manual,AV,or TV mode

jupitersolo

ONE RAW FILE.

Though he is using ONE image to start with, he is "making" more images with Lightroom. It would be the original RAW images and then make a +1, -1 using Lightroom and then combine the three images to get the HDR.

bigeshorte45

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^gotcha!

drigo

correct

drigo

haven't shot anything new lately so im just going through some older files...this one is an 11 shot pano stitched together then made in to HDR...
sorry for the size...

2001AudiS4

Damn you Drigo with your huge pictures....



J/K

I want to get into Panos next. I downloaded the free software (probably that you recommended) and had some issues. For one, my computer did not like processing it. Took it like an hour. My computer sucks, and I didn't really know what I was doing. Do you resize your images before stitching?

drigo

i'm using autopano pro...it does a great job stitching...i don't resize until i'm completely done editing

jupitersolo

drigo, What computer do you use? What's the guts of it?

wackjum

Not enough system ram is going to be the more limiting factor when processing these huge pics. The processor is going to stall out waiting for more information.

jupitersolo

When 32bit system maxes out just under 4gb, more RAM than that doesn't mean anything.

drigo

13' macbook 2.2 GHz intel core 2 duo
4 GB 667mhz ddr2 sdram

saving up for the 27' imac

drigo

im shooting raw and for example...it takes about 5 minutes to stitch 6-10 shots together...

2001AudiS4

I need a new computer

jupitersolo

How long would you say it takes to HDR images. 3 images, 5 images, 7 images? With my desktop, it takes 10-15 minutes or longer, I have stuff from August that I haven't done yet, because it takes so long just to run them through Photomatix.



P4 3.6 4gb, I'm getting ready to buy new system soon. If I can sell my MBP it would be sooner.

drigo

hmmm...if you're talking about taking 3-7 images and run them through photomatix without tonemapping...it takes my macbook about a minute or less...usually less...it's faster when using jpg vs. raw...but i hardly ever shoot jpg

wackjum

Well I was really directing the observation towards 2001Audi. If its taking that long, his comp probably doesn't have anywhere near 4 gb of ram.

jupitersolo

didn't see his post




I only do RAW and at 15-18mb for each one, doing the seven image one's have taken 40 minutes.

2001AudiS4

I forget. I think my machine has 2gb of ram. I'll check tomorrow, I'm on my iphone right now.

wackjum

2 GB is more than I was expecting. 2 is decent for an XP machine, mediocre for a Vista/W7 machine.

I used to use a Dual Intel Xeon 2.4 workstation from 2003. It sounds fast, but it doesn't hold a candle to modern Core 2 machines of the same clock speed. It would take 45-60 minutes to do panos.

I put an additional 512 of ram into it, bringing it up to 1.5, and it easily cut 20 minutes from the rendering time.

2001AudiS4

My machine, unfortunately, is running vista

drigo

If I can remember my raw files are under 10mb each...but even at 15-18mb it shouldn't take 40 minutes...that's crazy slow..

einsatz

These are from a single RAW:



http://www.flickr.com/photos/ep_jhu/4441196655/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ep_jhu/4429258715/

arrogantbastard

^That last one on the metro is a great shot! How did you ever manage to get an empty car?

Majofo

einsatz.. Good eye on that first pic, but it seems washed out / overexposed. I would work with the exposure to make the background pop & then work the highlights & color to get that crack in the wall & roof to pop as well. I see a lot of potential though.. maybe post up the RAW so we can mess with it