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11-05-2009, 07:42 AM
#241
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Certainly there are many factors that will determine the final outcome of a shot, but if your camera can bracket 3 or more frames, use it. Even if you decide to use only one of the frames, that's fine, but at least you have the option to blend more for reduced noise.
Here's an example that compares a single shot put through an HDR technique vs multiple exposures put through the same process:
If your camera doesn't support bracketing, definitely shoot in RAW or 16-bit TIFF (if that's even an option). You'll need as much headroom as you can get from your original file. JPG only contains 8 bits of image data, RAW contains at least 10 to 12 bits.
Here's an example that compares a single shot put through an HDR technique vs multiple exposures put through the same process:
If your camera doesn't support bracketing, definitely shoot in RAW or 16-bit TIFF (if that's even an option). You'll need as much headroom as you can get from your original file. JPG only contains 8 bits of image data, RAW contains at least 10 to 12 bits.
11-05-2009, 09:33 AM
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There are people that argue whether or not shooting HDR photography using RAW images is true HDR photography. Given that HDR photography is about the processing, I don't believe that. Their argument typically is that shooting in RAW creates more noise. If you get noise in your image, no matter how you shoot, just run it through noise ninja to eliminate it.
To me their are a few benefits to shooting in RAW. First and foremost, my camera doesn't do bracketing, so I would have to manually change the exposure and shoot multiple shots. This would definitely cause my to move and create blurred images when combined in processing. Secondly, and this is almost an extension of what I just said, shooting in AEB can also create a blur. If you are taking a picture of a building for example, and there is a flag on a mast at the top. When you shoot in AEB, you will see a blur if their is any wind after you combine in processing. Shooting in RAW utilizes only one original image so it will not have this blur. Third, it's just quicker. I take ALL my pictures in RAW. It takes a few more minutes to convert all my pictures when I want to view them, but in the end I have a digital negative of every picture I take.
So really you can take them either way, and either way should produce great results. Its more int he processing then which format you use to take the picture. After a while you will find the real gift is in eyeing a scene that you know will make a nice HDR image. Good luck.
To me their are a few benefits to shooting in RAW. First and foremost, my camera doesn't do bracketing, so I would have to manually change the exposure and shoot multiple shots. This would definitely cause my to move and create blurred images when combined in processing. Secondly, and this is almost an extension of what I just said, shooting in AEB can also create a blur. If you are taking a picture of a building for example, and there is a flag on a mast at the top. When you shoot in AEB, you will see a blur if their is any wind after you combine in processing. Shooting in RAW utilizes only one original image so it will not have this blur. Third, it's just quicker. I take ALL my pictures in RAW. It takes a few more minutes to convert all my pictures when I want to view them, but in the end I have a digital negative of every picture I take.
So really you can take them either way, and either way should produce great results. Its more int he processing then which format you use to take the picture. After a while you will find the real gift is in eyeing a scene that you know will make a nice HDR image. Good luck.
I shoot in raw when i do HDR, the quality to jpegs is a total difference. But i do shoot both raw and auto process jpeg. That way you can have a small file if you are to lazy to post process. I just shoot it AEB with -2 0 +2. Im not sure if there is a difference if this was to be done in post process.
Certainly there are many factors that will determine the final outcome of a shot, but if your camera can bracket 3 or more frames, use it. Even if you decide to use only one of the frames, that's fine, but at least you have the option to blend more for reduced noise...
If your camera doesn't support bracketing, definitely shoot in RAW or 16-bit TIFF (if that's even an option). You'll need as much headroom as you can get from your original file. JPG only contains 8 bits of image data, RAW contains at least 10 to 12 bits.
If your camera doesn't support bracketing, definitely shoot in RAW or 16-bit TIFF (if that's even an option). You'll need as much headroom as you can get from your original file. JPG only contains 8 bits of image data, RAW contains at least 10 to 12 bits.
http://www.stuckincustoms.com/
http://www.stuckincustoms.com/hdr-tutorial/
I do have one additional question about software. Nobody argues the benefit of Photomatix.. but is there a benefit of noiseware over noise ninja? Trey mentioned noiseware has a plugin for photoshop but doesn't mention a benefit other than that over noise ninja. Thanks for the help guys!
11-19-2009, 12:43 PM
#244
I like that first one
11-20-2009, 12:42 PM
#249
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Whoa.. That's crazy.. can you post up the original as well for comparison n0rmal.. btw.. whose the hottie in the avatar? 
11-20-2009, 02:50 PM
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That's incredible.. what tools did you use in post process?
11-20-2009, 06:37 PM
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11-20-2009, 07:00 PM
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11-20-2009, 08:12 PM
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Very true. But in all honesty if you want to get into some fun photography, you can pickup a cheap yet decent quality point and shoot that has AEB mode and create some nice HDR's. I keep meaning to use my girlfriends Panasonic that has AEB just to see how some pics come out. If I do I will post them here.
11-21-2009, 11:13 AM
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11-21-2009, 11:18 AM
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I bought a D40 late July, telling myself that I would not need anything more. Also, bought a Best Buy special tripod at the time.Now I have a D90, Manfrotto tripod, Ballhead, Tokina UWA. Looking to get some prime lenses too.
Very true. But in all honesty if you want to get into some fun photography, you can pickup a cheap yet decent quality point and shoot that has AEB mode and create some nice HDR's. I keep meaning to use my girlfriends Panasonic that has AEB just to see how some pics come out. If I do I will post them here.
I'm a photo noob so this means a lot to me!
11-21-2009, 03:13 PM
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01-15-2010, 09:03 PM
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You guys are amazing. I LOVE HDR shots...I already have flashes of myself as an old man with photography as one of my hobbies and HDR shots from all around the world. I HAVE to get into this.
What is the best camera for this please? I am a HUGE fan of canon...but I see a lot of people are using nikon. What is the cheapest camera to start on HDR that allows this AEB mode? What does that stand for please...as I'm not sure...maybe my point and shoot Canon SD870IS has the ability so I can get started fooling around with it.
Thank you in advance...
J.
What is the best camera for this please? I am a HUGE fan of canon...but I see a lot of people are using nikon. What is the cheapest camera to start on HDR that allows this AEB mode? What does that stand for please...as I'm not sure...maybe my point and shoot Canon SD870IS has the ability so I can get started fooling around with it.
Thank you in advance...
J.
01-16-2010, 01:03 AM
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What is the best camera for this please? I am a HUGE fan of canon...but I see a lot of people are using nikon. What is the cheapest camera to start on HDR that allows this AEB mode? What does that stand for please...as I'm not sure...maybe my point and shoot Canon SD870IS has the ability so I can get started fooling around with it.
Thank you in advance...
J.
Thank you in advance...
J.
AEB stands for Auto Exposure Bracketing....basically taking an underexposed shot, normal exposed and overexposed shot for you....then combining them and adjusting their contrast and all that jazz is where the HDR comes in.
for Nikon, the D5000 (approx. $700) does exposure bracketing...not sure if it's auto or not....my D80 (now proceeded by the much better D90) does AEB.
you can't go wrong with nikon or canon...find something within your budget that does what you want and feels good in your hands...which means going to the store and actually holding them.
two programs to aid in helping you create HDR images are Photomatix and Dynamic-HDR...photoshop can come in handy too after processing your pseudo-HDR image in one of those two programs...
01-16-2010, 02:27 AM
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<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ep_jhu/4277136601/" title="The George Washington Masonic National Memorial by ep_jhu, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4277136601_279d28c0c8.jpg" width="500" height="376" alt="The George Washington Masonic National Memorial" /></a>
that's from 5 jpg shots with my p&s (sd700is). HDR from Photomatix+LR
that's from 5 jpg shots with my p&s (sd700is). HDR from Photomatix+LR
01-16-2010, 11:29 PM
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All my shots were taken by my now sold D40. I did my 3 exposures in PS, then merging in Photomatix. I'm still doing it this way even though I have a D90 now.
01-17-2010, 10:21 AM
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This is not a true HDR but i took this with my A230 DSLR of the CN tower down town toronto and did alittle editing.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/11733708@N03/4130826335/" title="DSC00422 by JZ Photography, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2757/4130826335_7f9ebabe94.jpg" width="334" height="500" alt="DSC00422" /></a>
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01-18-2010, 06:41 PM
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Man that justs POPS!
01-18-2010, 09:20 PM
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Im brand new at photography and Ive been messing around with this HDR stuff I havent really taken any pics that I think are decent to do an HDR photo but the ones ive taken I cant make it look shiny like that and also get the colors to stand out
Could you give me some pointers
BTW That photo looks awesome is that one photo or multiple photos ??
Could you give me some pointers
BTW That photo looks awesome
is that one photo or multiple photos ??
01-18-2010, 11:29 PM
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Incredible shots guys.
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01-20-2010, 09:07 AM
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MY FIRST ATTEMPTED at HDR tell me what you guys think, Its not even near the quality of every one elses but its a start any pointers are much apperciated
01-20-2010, 09:20 AM
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01-20-2010, 10:41 AM
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yes But I was just messing around I got another couple, I have been working on These are some 1image pics from greece im going to try and do a real HDR pic as soon as I find a good spot because I finally figured out hot too use AEB
01-20-2010, 10:47 AM
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The software you're using is crap.. use photomatix & nn or at least CS.. the noise in those pictures is terrible & there's no contrast definition that I see.
Also if you shoot multiple exposures use a tripod & shoot in RAW so your options stay open.
Also if you shoot multiple exposures use a tripod & shoot in RAW so your options stay open.