EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 Kit Lens: Don't be so quick to upgrade!
#1
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EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 Kit Lens: Don't be so quick to upgrade!
We had some great fall colours at the cottage for Thanksgiving last weekend (). Just for fun, I thought I'd take the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 kit lens out for a spin. I've always said that the kit lens is actually quite sharp, and it proved itself again on this outing.
Here are a few sample pics from our walk. It's hard to judge sharpness from a small file, so I have made the originals available for download. Click the image to take you to an original sized version (~8MP):
Exif: 30D, 33mm, hand held, 1/100 @ f/7.1, ISO 100
Exif: 30D, 55mm, hand held, 1/60 (a little slow) @ f/7.1, ISO 200
Exif: 30D, 31mm, hand held, 1/500 @ f/5.6, ISO 200, -1 2/3EV
I took the first two, but SS took the last shot and I think it's awesome.
I think the 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 is a great little lens. Sure it's a little slow at the long end, but optically, it's really not bad at all. The sharpness is more than adequate for just about anything the average owner is going to print.
I'll post a few others from the weekend in a bit...
Here are a few sample pics from our walk. It's hard to judge sharpness from a small file, so I have made the originals available for download. Click the image to take you to an original sized version (~8MP):
Exif: 30D, 33mm, hand held, 1/100 @ f/7.1, ISO 100
Exif: 30D, 55mm, hand held, 1/60 (a little slow) @ f/7.1, ISO 200
Exif: 30D, 31mm, hand held, 1/500 @ f/5.6, ISO 200, -1 2/3EV
I took the first two, but SS took the last shot and I think it's awesome.
I think the 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 is a great little lens. Sure it's a little slow at the long end, but optically, it's really not bad at all. The sharpness is more than adequate for just about anything the average owner is going to print.
I'll post a few others from the weekend in a bit...
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Here are a few others without the kit lens from the same weekend.
Infrared Coast:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/acurazinedanEF-S 10-22mm with a Hoya R72 and custom white balance.
Autumn Apocalypse:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/acurazinedanShot with a Hoya R72 infrared filter on an overcast day. I intended to convert this to B&W when I was taking the shot, but I thought it was interesting as is.
Autumn Hues:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/acurazinedanJust a collection of colourful leaves collected around my cottage. EF 100mm f/2.8 macro
Leaf Pano:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/acurazinedanA vibrant leaf that landed on black sand. Captured with the 17-55mm at 55mm.
The End...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/acurazinedanI liked this scene when I saw it because the three main elements to this picture were all at the end of their existance. The firewood had been burned to coal, the bottle cap was burned and rusted, and the leaf had fallen from the tree. The 100mm macro was used for this shot.
Infrared Coast:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/acurazinedanEF-S 10-22mm with a Hoya R72 and custom white balance.
Autumn Apocalypse:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/acurazinedanShot with a Hoya R72 infrared filter on an overcast day. I intended to convert this to B&W when I was taking the shot, but I thought it was interesting as is.
Autumn Hues:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/acurazinedanJust a collection of colourful leaves collected around my cottage. EF 100mm f/2.8 macro
Leaf Pano:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/acurazinedanA vibrant leaf that landed on black sand. Captured with the 17-55mm at 55mm.
The End...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/acurazinedanI liked this scene when I saw it because the three main elements to this picture were all at the end of their existance. The firewood had been burned to coal, the bottle cap was burned and rusted, and the leaf had fallen from the tree. The 100mm macro was used for this shot.
#3
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great pics!!! i especially like the infrared coast...
i was just looking at B&H's website to look for a replacement for my kit lens... was there any pp done with the pics you used the kit lens on?
i was just looking at B&H's website to look for a replacement for my kit lens... was there any pp done with the pics you used the kit lens on?
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Originally Posted by drigo
great pics!!! i especially like the infrared coast...
i was just looking at B&H's website to look for a replacement for my kit lens... was there any pp done with the pics you used the kit lens on?
i was just looking at B&H's website to look for a replacement for my kit lens... was there any pp done with the pics you used the kit lens on?
The weak points of the 18-55 in my opinion:
- moderate distortion in the corners
- slow for a 55mm lens
- no USM
Sharpness doesn't seem to be a problem though.
What lenses are you looking at now?
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Simply beautiful.
The leaf on the black sand is my new wallpaper!(with your permission?)
The leaf on the black sand is my new wallpaper!(with your permission?)
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
Simply beautiful.
The leaf on the black sand is my new wallpaper!(with your permission?)
The leaf on the black sand is my new wallpaper!(with your permission?)
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great pictures, and yes this past weekend my faith was brought back to this lens as well.
i shot at a glamour workshop saturday night, and reviewing some of the pictures, its sharpness is crazy even at 100% crop.
i cant post pictures thou because of the release forms.
anyways i wont be able to afford the 17-55 for a long time, so what do you guys think of the 17-85?
thinking of still replacing it with a better built lens and non rotating front when focusing and ring usm.
i shot at a glamour workshop saturday night, and reviewing some of the pictures, its sharpness is crazy even at 100% crop.
i cant post pictures thou because of the release forms.
anyways i wont be able to afford the 17-55 for a long time, so what do you guys think of the 17-85?
thinking of still replacing it with a better built lens and non rotating front when focusing and ring usm.
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#8
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
thinking of still replacing it with a better built lens and non rotating front when focusing and ring usm.
I'd grab the Tamron 17-55 f/2.8 over the EF-S 17-85. It doesn't have USM or IS, but it's faster, sharper, and it has less distortion and CA.
#9
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Miz, I use the 17-85 as my walk-around, and agree with Dan. I'd really like to upgrade it at some point. I'm constantly cursing the lack of sharpness. I have no experience with the Tamron, but the 2.8 sounds good to me, too. The IS on the 17-85 is nice for hand-holding of course, but I'd rather have the wider aperture for more DoF control. It's been a great lens to get me started, but I'm looking for something else eventually.
#10
Love the pictures.
There's hardly a bad lens, when you try and use the 18-55 inside, it's not so good, when you don't want to use a flash. So you end up buying another, faster lens for that. Then it's why do I need two of the same in my bag.
There's hardly a bad lens, when you try and use the 18-55 inside, it's not so good, when you don't want to use a flash. So you end up buying another, faster lens for that. Then it's why do I need two of the same in my bag.
#11
Drifting
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
The three shots done with the 18-55 had minimal post work done. The first was just a straight conversion from raw. The second and third shots were converted from raw, then a b&w conversion with a spit tone was done to finish.
The weak points of the 18-55 in my opinion:
- moderate distortion in the corners
- slow for a 55mm lens
- no USM
Sharpness doesn't seem to be a problem though.
What lenses are you looking at now?
The weak points of the 18-55 in my opinion:
- moderate distortion in the corners
- slow for a 55mm lens
- no USM
Sharpness doesn't seem to be a problem though.
What lenses are you looking at now?
according to my budget...these are the 2 lenses i'm looking at for replacing my kit lens...
Sigma Zoom Super Wide Angle AF 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC ($389)
Sigma Zoom Super Wide Angle 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC ($419)
right now i have the 50mm f/1.8,18-55mm(kit),sigma 10-20mm,& 70-200mm f/4 L
any other suggestions besides the 2 i mentioned?
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Originally Posted by drigo
i posted this in the lens thread but got no response...
according to my budget...these are the 2 lenses i'm looking at for replacing my kit lens...
Sigma Zoom Super Wide Angle AF 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC ($389)
Sigma Zoom Super Wide Angle 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC ($419)
right now i have the 50mm f/1.8,18-55mm(kit),sigma 10-20mm,& 70-200mm f/4 L
any other suggestions besides the 2 i mentioned?
according to my budget...these are the 2 lenses i'm looking at for replacing my kit lens...
Sigma Zoom Super Wide Angle AF 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC ($389)
Sigma Zoom Super Wide Angle 18-50mm f/2.8 EX DC ($419)
right now i have the 50mm f/1.8,18-55mm(kit),sigma 10-20mm,& 70-200mm f/4 L
any other suggestions besides the 2 i mentioned?
#13
Drifting
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
I prefer the Tamron 17-55 over the Sigma 18-55 from my hands-on experience with each, but either of them would be a good choice.
#14
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
I prefer the Tamron 17-55 over the Sigma 18-55 from my hands-on experience with each, but either of them would be a good choice.
I am certainly not a pro, but I would recommend this lens.
Oh, and also the hood will cast a shadow when using the popup flash.
Edit: Made the same typo as Dan
Last edited by JLatimer; 10-10-2007 at 08:23 PM.
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Originally Posted by drigo
^^^ thanks for the input...but i'm looking at BH photo and i'm not seeing a 17-55mm but a 17-50mm...is that what you guys are talking about?
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Awesome pics. That Leaf Pano is fantastic.
Just more proof that its not about your equipment.
Dan, SS, did you happen to take any of the same pics with a different lens just to compare? I know thats asking a lot. I would loved to seen what Autumn Hues looked like on another lens.
Just more proof that its not about your equipment.
Dan, SS, did you happen to take any of the same pics with a different lens just to compare? I know thats asking a lot. I would loved to seen what Autumn Hues looked like on another lens.
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Originally Posted by dom
Awesome pics. That Leaf Pano is fantastic.
Just more proof that its not about your equipment.
Dan, SS, did you happen to take any of the same pics with a different lens just to compare? I know thats asking a lot. I would loved to seen what Autumn Hues looked like on another lens.
Just more proof that its not about your equipment.
Dan, SS, did you happen to take any of the same pics with a different lens just to compare? I know thats asking a lot. I would loved to seen what Autumn Hues looked like on another lens.
I don't have any different takes of Autumn Hues, but since it was a macro, it would be difficult to take a similar shot with the other lenses...
I'll do a "shootout at 18mm" someday with my 18-55, 17-55, and 10-22 since they all overlap at that range.
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The first review of the new 18-55 IS kit lens is out: http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/len...n_1855_3556is/
Very impressive results! It's basically as sharp as the 17-55 f/2.8 but it's 1/5 the price. Of course it's not as fast, but for a kit lens, those are very good results! Certainly now we can bury the myth that kit lenses are no good...
Very impressive results! It's basically as sharp as the 17-55 f/2.8 but it's 1/5 the price. Of course it's not as fast, but for a kit lens, those are very good results! Certainly now we can bury the myth that kit lenses are no good...
#25
Drifting
Originally Posted by Dan Martin
The first review of the new 18-55 IS kit lens is out: http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/len...n_1855_3556is/
Very impressive results! It's basically as sharp as the 17-55 f/2.8 but it's 1/5 the price. Of course it's not as fast, but for a kit lens, those are very good results! Certainly now we can bury the myth that kit lenses are no good...
Very impressive results! It's basically as sharp as the 17-55 f/2.8 but it's 1/5 the price. Of course it's not as fast, but for a kit lens, those are very good results! Certainly now we can bury the myth that kit lenses are no good...
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