the EOS intelligent speedlite system is supposedly like nikons CLS. about time?

 

From Fred Miranda this morning:
Sounds good! I guess we'll just have to wait for Wednesday to get here to find out what's fact and what's fiction.

Points 5,6,7,10, and 11 are the best news for me. I'd like to shoot some 60fps video of the bikes working over the bumps.

 

If this is everything they're saying, and the image quality is as good as it has to be for Canon to remain competitive, I'm in.

 

God...the itch for Canon is back.



Now I want full frame...

 

But why not use the sensor technology improvements on 14 or 15 MP's? Why the bump to 18?

The only thing I can think of... is other markets, and people outside of forums are still asking for more MP's.

 

 

+1, no, I think it's just Canon wanting to stay ahead with that our bodies have more MP. The 50D promised to have better IQ and less noise, because of what they were doing with software. It didn't happen.

 

I seriously doubt its the camera that's responsible for the quality of pictures I see around here.

 

That's exactly why it gets a great big IF. If Canon really developed a hyperpixelated noisy POS at this stage of the game, they're stupid enough to deserve their losses. I truly hope that didn't happen. I don't want to sell all my gear off, and make the switch, but I'd strongly consider it if this is the direction their R&D is continuing to go.

I'm trying to have some faith that they've made a technological leap when it comes to pixel quality. That's the only thing that will make 18MP ok on an APS-C sensor.

 

From what I've read the 50D gets a bad rap but people who own it say its just as good as the 40D if not better. Then again, they're owners so who knows. Why did Canon settle for 'just as good'?

I guess we'll see. But I don't think anyone should be expecting worse IQ than a 40 or 50D. That just won't happen.

 

Me too.

 

That's what I'm thinking. It would be suicide to release a substandard body into this game. They had a winner with the 5D MkII, but even it didn't have enough high ISO or AF improvements to keep up with Nikon, or to keep the nay-sayers happy. Introducing something with crowded pixels minus improved NR and detail retention would be asinine. It would be worse than not releasing anything, and I can't imagine they don't realize that. I'm optimistic.

 

I keep reading how lousy the 50D is, but continually see some pretty damn good output from it. Dan's pics alone are enough to make me think it's pretty good.

 

Isn't the 5DII just as good as a D700 in the high ISO department? I guess it depends who you ask but I thought it had great IQ. And last I heard it was handily outselling the D700 so it seems to have done the job.

What Canon needs is a lower MP FF with speed and a price point of about 2.5K.

 

The talk really isn't how lousy it is, just not really an improvement over the 40D. If they would have kept the MP down, then it would have better IQ at higher ISO. Seems Canon is just trying to keep their line of bodies in order.

 

Well it should outsell, Canon does have a larger part of the market. Plus they are purposely keeping production low on the 5D2, to give it a video game console effect.

 

This kind of reminds me of all the Honda/Acura bashing on this board. In the end, regardless of want we want and say and bitch about. Sales make the ultimate decisions.

And I agree, just as good shouldn't be the goal.

 

 

Like you said, it depends on who you ask. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have one - no bashing here, just being honest that Nikon is ahead of the noise game, and hoping very strongly that Canon catches up with this one. I love my lenses, and have been very happy with my 40D in most circumstances. It's amazing how much noise I have even at ISO 400 sometimes, though.

I'm sure you can understand some healthy skepticism regarding those specs, all things considered. I hope it's amazing.

 

 

With the D3 and D700 being full frame and only 12MP, that's how they get the great high ISO's. Though they did get better with the new Xspeed CPU as well.

 

I always thought the 50D was rushed out way too fast, with little thought.

 

Damn. If those specs are correct, and the IQ is better than the current generation of crop cameras. then this will be mine!

In addition to your 5,6,7,10 & 11, I think 1 is pretty important. Though it will still be limited to IR/line of sight because of the flash bodies, it would still be a nice start and could delay some wireless trigger purchases - at least for indoor work

These specs are making me want one, NOW!! They better deliver on all these unconfirmed rumors, or there will be mutiny!!

 

How about the D3x? How's the high ISO performance compared to those?

 

damn, now I am kind of wishing I didn't just get the 50D a few months ago. Wonder if the 7D will have AF Microadjust on it. That feature on the 50D is awesome when you have a lens that is not calibrated just right.

 

Different animal, I've not shot with one, but I've heard it's not as good, but at low ISO it's a beast.

 

I think the 50D looks about the same as the 40D if you compare pixels to pixels in online reviews. However, the story is quite different when you actually make prints.

The added resolution makes the grain much smaller and less noticeable in the same sized prints. It's like the difference between making a print from ISO400 film in 120 format versus 35mm. The grain in the print made from 120 film is not nearly as noticeable as 35mm, even though the ISO is the same, simply because the grain isn't enlarged as much in the print.

Even if Canon only manages to maintain the same noise levels as the 50D in the new 7D, the prints would probably look a little better due to the smaller grain. That being said, 15MP is plenty for my printer. I already have to shrink the images if I'm printing 8x10 or smaller because the printer will choke on the resolution. 16x20's look great though!

 

How well is the printer doing for you?

 

Love it! I'd sell my leg before I sold my 4880.

It's not the easiest thing to learn to use, but once you get comfortable with it, it's pretty awesome. I have complete control of what my photos look like from capture to output, so there are no surprises when I get the print in my hands.

I ship prints regularly now, so if you or anyone else here would like some of their own work printed, just let me know.

 

You know, Dan, I just remembered that the other day, AFTER I sent the order out for the 40x30 print. Did you say you do canvas, too - for future reference?

 

I can do prints up to 17" wide, with my standard sheet size of 17"x22", but I can go longer on roll paper. I think canvas is only sold in 24" and 40" rolls, which would require a bigger machine than I have.

 

Ah, OK, good - then I didn't screw up.

 

Let me know if you have something smaller than 17x22 you need printed.

 

Most definitely!

 

It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/

They have a hands-on already, but it looks like their servers are blowing up right now.

 

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...&modelid=19356

1699 Body Only at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-EOS-7D-B...1778897&sr=8-5

 

you know, its really nice how it has the selectable video frame rate. Canon really listened to all the bitchy whiny video people!

 

And it's also official that whoever the management is in charge of model numbering needs to be smacked about the head. Again.

 

nice!

 

Still reading, but there are a couple of minor things that I noticed

1. The AEB is still only -/+ 2EV :thumbsdow
2. FEC is -/+ 3 EV
3. BG-E7 Vertical Grip + :thumbsdow