Canon 7D - Confirmed? (YES)
08-30-2009, 11:24 PM
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the EOS intelligent speedlite system is supposedly like nikons CLS. 
about time?
about time?
08-31-2009, 07:57 AM
#82
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From Fred Miranda this morning:
Sounds good! I guess we'll just have to wait for Wednesday to get here to find out what's fact and what's fiction.
Points 5,6,7,10, and 11 are the best news for me. I'd like to shoot some 60fps video of the bikes working over the bumps.
More leaks.. this time from Taiwan... the official Canon announcement in mandarin. See
here as well as here too
Salient points:
0) Sensor size is 22.3 x 14.9 mm. That is a 1.6x crop.
1) Wireless flash control for Speedlite 580EX II、580EX、430EX II、430EX、420EX
2) Available end of Sep
3) AF with f/5.6 or faster lenses
4) 19 AF points only. No more. But AF points can be grouped into 5 regions for AF tracking.
5) Exposure compensation extends to +/-5 eV
6) Spot metering can now be tied to individual AF point
7) New imaging sensor electronics and design improve signal to noise ratio. Base ISO from 100 to 6400. Top ISO is now 'only' 12800 (NOT 25600).
8) LCD is new Polymer Network LCD that will supposedly still work fine under sunlight illumination.
9) Battery is LP-E6 (same as 5D2)
10) HD video in 24/25/30 fps and 720p video in 50/60 fps
Just added:
11) Full weather sealing
here as well as here too
Salient points:
0) Sensor size is 22.3 x 14.9 mm. That is a 1.6x crop.
1) Wireless flash control for Speedlite 580EX II、580EX、430EX II、430EX、420EX
2) Available end of Sep
3) AF with f/5.6 or faster lenses
4) 19 AF points only. No more. But AF points can be grouped into 5 regions for AF tracking.
5) Exposure compensation extends to +/-5 eV
6) Spot metering can now be tied to individual AF point
7) New imaging sensor electronics and design improve signal to noise ratio. Base ISO from 100 to 6400. Top ISO is now 'only' 12800 (NOT 25600).
8) LCD is new Polymer Network LCD that will supposedly still work fine under sunlight illumination.
9) Battery is LP-E6 (same as 5D2)
10) HD video in 24/25/30 fps and 720p video in 50/60 fps
Just added:
11) Full weather sealing
Points 5,6,7,10, and 11 are the best news for me. I'd like to shoot some 60fps video of the bikes working over the bumps.
08-31-2009, 09:44 AM
#83
Earth-bound misfit
If this is everything they're saying, and the image quality is as good as it has to be for Canon to remain competitive, I'm in.
08-31-2009, 10:50 AM
#85
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But why not use the sensor technology improvements on 14 or 15 MP's? Why the bump to 18?
The only thing I can think of... is other markets, and people outside of forums are still asking for more MP's.
The only thing I can think of... is other markets, and people outside of forums are still asking for more MP's.
08-31-2009, 11:03 AM
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08-31-2009, 11:09 AM
#87
+1, no, I think it's just Canon wanting to stay ahead with that our bodies have more MP. The 50D promised to have better IQ and less noise, because of what they were doing with software. It didn't happen.
08-31-2009, 11:14 AM
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Earth-bound misfit
I'm trying to have some faith that they've made a technological leap when it comes to pixel quality. That's the only thing that will make 18MP ok on an APS-C sensor.
08-31-2009, 11:22 AM
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From what I've read the 50D gets a bad rap but people who own it say its just as good as the 40D if not better. Then again, they're owners so who knows. Why did Canon settle for 'just as good'?
I guess we'll see. But I don't think anyone should be expecting worse IQ than a 40 or 50D. That just won't happen.
I guess we'll see. But I don't think anyone should be expecting worse IQ than a 40 or 50D. That just won't happen.
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08-31-2009, 11:27 AM
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Me too.
08-31-2009, 11:28 AM
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From what I've read the 50D gets a bad rap but people who own it say its just as good as the 40D if not better. Then again, they're owners so who knows. Why did Canon settle for 'just as good'?
I guess we'll see. But I don't think anyone should be expecting worse IQ than a 40 or 50D. That just won't happen.
I guess we'll see. But I don't think anyone should be expecting worse IQ than a 40 or 50D. That just won't happen.
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08-31-2009, 11:29 AM
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From what I've read the 50D gets a bad rap but people who own it say its just as good as the 40D if not better. Then again, they're owners so who knows. Why did Canon settle for 'just as good'?
I guess we'll see. But I don't think anyone should be expecting worse IQ than a 40 or 50D. That just won't happen.
I guess we'll see. But I don't think anyone should be expecting worse IQ than a 40 or 50D. That just won't happen.
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08-31-2009, 11:38 AM
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What Canon needs is a lower MP FF with speed and a price point of about 2.5K.
08-31-2009, 11:44 AM
#95
The talk really isn't how lousy it is, just not really an improvement over the 40D. If they would have kept the MP down, then it would have better IQ at higher ISO. Seems Canon is just trying to keep their line of bodies in order.
08-31-2009, 11:45 AM
#96
Isn't the 5DII just as good as a D700 in the high ISO department? I guess it depends who you ask but I thought it had great IQ. And last I heard it was handily outselling the D700 so it seems to have done the job.
What Canon needs is a lower MP FF with speed and a price point of about 2.5K.
What Canon needs is a lower MP FF with speed and a price point of about 2.5K.
08-31-2009, 11:50 AM
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This kind of reminds me of all the Honda/Acura bashing on this board. In the end, regardless of want we want and say and bitch about. Sales make the ultimate decisions.
And I agree, just as good shouldn't be the goal.
And I agree, just as good shouldn't be the goal.
08-31-2009, 11:53 AM
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HD video in 24/25/30 fps
08-31-2009, 11:56 AM
#99
Earth-bound misfit
Isn't the 5DII just as good as a D700 in the high ISO department? I guess it depends who you ask but I thought it had great IQ. And last I heard it was handily outselling the D700 so it seems to have done the job.
What Canon needs is a lower MP FF with speed and a price point of about 2.5K.
What Canon needs is a lower MP FF with speed and a price point of about 2.5K.
I'm sure you can understand some healthy skepticism regarding those specs, all things considered. I hope it's amazing.
08-31-2009, 11:57 AM
#100
Earth-bound misfit
08-31-2009, 12:01 PM
#101
Like you said, it depends on who you ask. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have one - no bashing here, just being honest that Nikon is ahead of the noise game, and hoping very strongly that Canon catches up with this one. I love my lenses, and have been very happy with my 40D in most circumstances. It's amazing how much noise I have even at ISO 400 sometimes, though.
I'm sure you can understand some healthy skepticism regarding those specs, all things considered. I hope it's amazing.
I'm sure you can understand some healthy skepticism regarding those specs, all things considered. I hope it's amazing.
08-31-2009, 12:03 PM
#102
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From what I've read the 50D gets a bad rap but people who own it say its just as good as the 40D if not better. Then again, they're owners so who knows. Why did Canon settle for 'just as good'?
I guess we'll see. But I don't think anyone should be expecting worse IQ than a 40 or 50D. That just won't happen.
I guess we'll see. But I don't think anyone should be expecting worse IQ than a 40 or 50D. That just won't happen.
08-31-2009, 12:25 PM
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From Fred Miranda this morning:
Sounds good! I guess we'll just have to wait for Wednesday to get here to find out what's fact and what's fiction.
Points 5,6,7,10, and 11 are the best news for me. I'd like to shoot some 60fps video of the bikes working over the bumps.
Sounds good! I guess we'll just have to wait for Wednesday to get here to find out what's fact and what's fiction.
Points 5,6,7,10, and 11 are the best news for me. I'd like to shoot some 60fps video of the bikes working over the bumps.
In addition to your 5,6,7,10 & 11, I think 1 is pretty important. Though it will still be limited to IR/line of sight because of the flash bodies, it would still be a nice start and could delay some wireless trigger purchases - at least for indoor work
These specs are making me want one, NOW!! They better deliver on all these unconfirmed rumors, or there will be mutiny!!
08-31-2009, 01:24 PM
#105
Burning Brakes
damn, now I am kind of wishing I didn't just get the 50D a few months ago. Wonder if the 7D will have AF Microadjust on it. That feature on the 50D is awesome when you have a lens that is not calibrated just right.
08-31-2009, 01:42 PM
#106
08-31-2009, 02:31 PM
#107
Photography Nerd
The added resolution makes the grain much smaller and less noticeable in the same sized prints. It's like the difference between making a print from ISO400 film in 120 format versus 35mm. The grain in the print made from 120 film is not nearly as noticeable as 35mm, even though the ISO is the same, simply because the grain isn't enlarged as much in the print.
Even if Canon only manages to maintain the same noise levels as the 50D in the new 7D, the prints would probably look a little better due to the smaller grain. That being said, 15MP is plenty for my printer. I already have to shrink the images if I'm printing 8x10 or smaller because the printer will choke on the resolution. 16x20's look great though!
08-31-2009, 02:35 PM
#108
How well is the printer doing for you? 
08-31-2009, 02:56 PM
#109
Photography Nerd
Love it! I'd sell my leg before I sold my 4880.
It's not the easiest thing to learn to use, but once you get comfortable with it, it's pretty awesome. I have complete control of what my photos look like from capture to output, so there are no surprises when I get the print in my hands.
I ship prints regularly now, so if you or anyone else here would like some of their own work printed, just let me know.
It's not the easiest thing to learn to use, but once you get comfortable with it, it's pretty awesome. I have complete control of what my photos look like from capture to output, so there are no surprises when I get the print in my hands.
I ship prints regularly now, so if you or anyone else here would like some of their own work printed, just let me know.
08-31-2009, 03:00 PM
#110
Earth-bound misfit
You know, Dan, I just remembered that the other day, AFTER I sent the order out for the 40x30 print. Did you say you do canvas, too - for future reference?
08-31-2009, 03:17 PM
#111
Photography Nerd
I can do prints up to 17" wide, with my standard sheet size of 17"x22", but I can go longer on roll paper. I think canvas is only sold in 24" and 40" rolls, which would require a bigger machine than I have.
08-31-2009, 03:42 PM
#112
Earth-bound misfit
08-31-2009, 04:02 PM
#114
Earth-bound misfit
Most definitely!
08-31-2009, 11:14 PM
#115
Photography Nerd
It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/
They have a hands-on already, but it looks like their servers are blowing up right now.
They have a hands-on already, but it looks like their servers are blowing up right now.
08-31-2009, 11:21 PM
#116
is learning to moonwalk i
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It's official: http://www.dpreview.com/
They have a hands-on already, but it looks like their servers are blowing up right now.
They have a hands-on already, but it looks like their servers are blowing up right now.
1699 Body Only at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-EOS-7D-B...1778897&sr=8-5
08-31-2009, 11:22 PM
#117
Senior Moderator
you know, its really nice how it has the selectable video frame rate. Canon really listened to all the bitchy whiny video people!
08-31-2009, 11:33 PM
#119
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nice!
Experiment creatively with light
The Canon EOS 7D is equipped with an Integrated Speedlite Transmitter. For the first time in an EOS, photographers can control external Speedlites with no additional accessories - ideal for those looking to experiment with creative lighting set-ups. The EOS 7D also features an extensively upgraded, built-in flash including manual control, and wider flash coverage to cover focal lengths as wide as 15mm.
The Canon EOS 7D is equipped with an Integrated Speedlite Transmitter. For the first time in an EOS, photographers can control external Speedlites with no additional accessories - ideal for those looking to experiment with creative lighting set-ups. The EOS 7D also features an extensively upgraded, built-in flash including manual control, and wider flash coverage to cover focal lengths as wide as 15mm.
08-31-2009, 11:41 PM
#120
is learning to moonwalk i
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Still reading, but there are a couple of minor things that I noticed
1. The AEB is still only -/+ 2EV :thumbsdow
2. FEC is -/+ 3 EV
3. BG-E7 Vertical Grip + :thumbsdow
1. The AEB is still only -/+ 2EV :thumbsdow
2. FEC is -/+ 3 EV
3. BG-E7 Vertical Grip
+ :thumbsdow