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***Acurazine Photo Contest #27: Backlight***

Acurazine Photo Contest #27

The theme for this contest is: "Backlight"

Backlighting refers to lighting in a photograph that comes from behind an object. One of the most common 'rules' tells a photographer to have the source of the light behind the photographer. In backlighting the source of the light is behind the subject, or may be the subject itself. It is considered to be one of the more difficult lighting situations and as such many avoid it.

The rules for this contest are as follows:

-The subject of can be anything you deem acceptable.
-You must be the person that took the photos. Previous photos are acceptable as long as you are the one that captured the image.
-One submission per contest.
-Images must be no larger than 900px in any direction. Links to larger images are allowed but you must have one that is under 900px for the poll.
-All contestants must host their own pictures.
-All pictures must have a title.
-While post processing in photoshop is allowed, adding or removing parts of the picture is not. In the event a photo is suspected to be "photochopped," the contestant will be asked to provide the original picture.



Important dates and poll info:

Entries must be submitted to this thread no later than Sunday, February 1st at 6pm PST.

The poll will start on Monday, February 2nd . Multiple votes will be allowed.

The poll will close on Monday, February 9th at 6pm PST.
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nice theme, damn I have to think...
Old 12-24-2008, 10:35 PM
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great theme...and i have an idea...maybe...
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Hmmmm interesting topic.
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Only had a second to snap this candid shot during a visit to the zoo, as she was just another visitor and Dad was right next to her.


Intrigue





The black border was the edge of the aquarium window pane, not added to the photo.
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^Good shot!

I wouldn't have said anything about the border, but let everyone ask " cool, how did you do that border w/ her feet?".

Good choice JL
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I need some clarification on this...

One of the most common 'rules' tells a photographer to have the source of the light behind the photographer. In backlighting the source of the light is behind the subject, or may be the subject itself.
There is possible contradiction here. Backlighting is when the source of the light is behind the photographer, which you said in the first sentence I quoted. However, in the second sentence, you said the light is behind the subject. If you had backlighting (a light source from behind you, the photographer), and you were taking a portrait, the light source would be in front of the subject, not behind.

I thought maybe that was a typo until I saw SS's entry (which I think is an awesome pick btw, SS). SS's photo is using front lighting. There is hardly any, if at all backlighting in her picture. Her picture is almost completely front-lit (light coming from in front of the photographer) unless there is an interpretation I missed.



Can you clarify if you meant this contest is for

-Backlighting (lighting from behind the photographer, where as such if you were taking a front facing portrait, the light source would be in the individuals face), or

-Frontlighting (lighting in front of the photographer, where as such if you were taking a front facing portrait, the light source would be behind the individuals face)?

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^^ You've got that backwards. Backlight is behind the subject.
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Originally Posted by TS_eXpeed
There is hardly any, if at all backlighting in her picture. Her picture is almost completely front-lit (light coming from in front of the photographer) unless there is an interpretation I missed.
This was taken in an 'underground' aquarium viewing area. The only light in this photo was from the sunlight shining down on the water. The little girl is almost completely in silhouette (backlit). If it were lit from the front (or exposed that way), the girl would no longer appear in shadow.
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Originally Posted by Dan Martin
^^ You've got that backwards. Backlight is behind the subject.
Not necessarily. Lets make this basic.


If you had a photographer, a model and a flashlight shining on the model from behind the photographer, that would be backlight, but the light would be in front of the model (the subject), not behind it.
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
This was taken in an 'underground' aquarium viewing area. The only light in this photo was from the sunlight shining down on the water. The little girl is almost completely in silhouette (backlit).
Backlighting refers to a light source that is behind the photographer, not the subject. Unless the guy that wrote 'Understanding Exposure' (a highly recommended book in this forum) wrote it backwards. I was confused when I first read it too, but that's what he says. Go check for yourselves.

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Old 12-24-2008, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TS_eXpeed
Not necessarily. Lets make this basic.


If you had a photographer, a model and a flashlight shining on the model from behind the photographer, that would be backlight, but the light would be in front of the model (the subject), not behind it.
That would be front lighting.

Originally Posted by dictionary.com
back⋅light   /ˈbækˌlaɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [bak-lahyt] Show IPA Pronunciation
noun, verb, -light⋅ed or -lit, -light⋅ing.
–noun 1. Movies, Television. a light source placed behind an actor, object, or scene to create a highlight that separates the subject from the background.
–verb (used with object) 2. to illuminate (something) from behind.
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Backlighting isn't from the photographer's back, but from the subject's facing the photographer. Street Spirit's photo is correct.

Wiki= In the context of lighting design, backlighting refers to the process of illuminating the subject from the back. In other words, the lighting instrument and the viewer are facing towards each other, with the subject in between. This causes the edges of the subject to glow, while the other areas remain darker.
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Jesus Christ.

I would've bet my life on it.
What tripped me up is the quote I quoted since it contradicts itself.
Lighting is not behind the photographer as the original posts suggests.


My bad.
Ignore my noobism. I would've sworn my life it was the other way around.

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Old 12-25-2008, 12:01 AM
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You've gotten confused because you interpreted the two sentences you quoted as referring to the same subject matter. My understanding of reading the OP's words are that the first sentence ("....common rules...") is that he is referring to a general rule of thumb when wanting a properly exposed image that most people look for. The OP's following sentence speaks of the complete opposite idea (NOT following the "basic rule" he stated in the sentence prior) and then goes on to talk about backlight. He made a transition of ideas between those two sentences.

IMO, you haven't misunderstood it, you've just misread it. Think of those two sentences as separate paragraphs.
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Originally Posted by TS_eXpeed
Jesus Christ.

My bad.
Ignore my noobism. I would've sworn my life it was the other way around.
If you're anything like me... it wasn't your first and certainly won't be your last Welcome to life.
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
IMO, you haven't misunderstood it, you've just misread it. Think of those two sentences as separate paragraphs.

Thanks. Lol. Makes sense now.
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Originally Posted by TS_eXpeed
Jesus Christ.

I would've bet my life on it.
What tripped me up is the quote I quoted since it contradicts itself.
Lighting is not behind the photographer as the original posts suggests.


My bad.
Ignore my noobism. I would've sworn my life it was the other way around.
Dont mess with Dan, that should be a week from the photog section.

When referring to light sources they are always in reference to the subject, not the photographer.
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Originally Posted by TS_eXpeed

Thanks. Lol. Makes sense now.
Okay, well you kinda misunderstood it too....but part of that probably came from misreading it.

Now on to s'more pics....
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Cool topic. Looking forward to the entries.

Originally Posted by The Dougler
Dont mess with Dan, that should be a week from the photog section.

When referring to light sources they are always in reference to the subject, not the photographer.
Not necessarily. Lights are also commonly referred to as "camera left" or "camera right" - at least in some of the POTN forums.
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I backlight. Good topic!
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Nice entry SS.

Sorry if my explanation created some confusion but it sounds like everyone has the right idea now.
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I read that link and still have a doubt... can a backlit shot use a flash to light up the front of the subject and still be considered a "backlighting" shot?
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Awesome pic SS. I think that pic does a pretty good job of explaining JL's intent.
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The reason I have doubts about it is because in that link, there is an area called "Backlit but not silhouetted". And, I'm wondering what kind of pics would fall under that distinction.
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My interpretation is it could be either, however, I don't think it would qualify if the subject is completely (well) lit from the front - and just happens to have light coming form behind, too.
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These are not intended as entries..just examples of backlighting without silhouetting.

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/moxiephotos/253743975/" title="Backlit Purple by wndrlst, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/112/253743975_0b1d161a4d.jpg" width="500" height="351" alt="Backlit Purple" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/moxiephotos/270718781/" title="The Sun Peeks Over by wndrlst, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/121/270718781_0514a17292.jpg" width="500" height="500" alt="The Sun Peeks Over" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/moxiephotos/253540610/" title="Grass with dew by wndrlst, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/105/253540610_6c014b5e14.jpg" width="500" height="500" alt="Grass with dew" /></a>

It depends on your subject and more importantly your exposure.

If either of these subjects were against the sky, and I had exposed for the sky, they'd be silhouetted. As it is, the primary light source is behind them, but either because of the translucent nature of the subject or the ambient light, or a combination of both, I was able to expose for the subject without losing the background and none of them are silhouettes.

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I would think a flash would qualify as another light source that is giving front-light. In all the examples I posted, the only real light source is behind the subject, but they are exposed such that they are still lit.

Make sense?

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Originally Posted by srika
The reason I have doubts about it is because in that link, there is an area called "Backlit but not silhouetted". And, I'm wondering what kind of pics would fall under that distinction.
A sunset landscape might. Also wndrlst has a few posted in the favorite photos thread with frosted branches that are backlit but not silhouetted. Also Dan Martin's experimental frost on the windows is backlit, but not technically a silhouette.

For this topic I would like to see "backlight" include "sihouettes" as well as "backlit but not silhouetted".

Examples might include:
- subject is lit from behind and silhouetted
- subject is lit from behind primarily, but may be highlighted from the front or side (though the front/side lighting is not the primary light source)
- subject may be the source of light (ie sunset would qualify, but moonscape would not)

Lemme know if I need to clarify at all...

Edit: I composed my response at the same time as wndrlst. Her examples are perfect. They are backlit, but have ambient or reflected light that is exposing the front of the subject. Still, they are primarily backlit.

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ok GOT IT!!!
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I think wonder woman posted a great set of examples. Yes, backlighting doesn't mean the subject has to be in perfect silhouette, it just means that the only light used in the scene is behind the subject. If the light comes from behind the subject and in its natural path happens to bounce around and slightly fill the front of the subject, that's fine too.

Ultimately, it just boils down to this: it must be obvious that the light is coming from behind the subject, not from in front of it. Using fill-flash or even reflectors would probably confuse the issue more than it would help.
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so are we limited to only one source of light which must be from the back of the subject or just majority of light be from behind the subject?
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And to make matters more confusing, when you combine the just the right atmospheric conditions with just the right lighting conditions, you can get a diffraction fringe around your subject that makes it appear to be both silhouetted and "traditionally" backlit at the same time.

http://flickr.com/photos/touchingthelight/2102019585/
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As long as the primary light source(s) are from behind the subject, they should be okay.
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dontcha just love these contests hehe

have a safe and happy new year everyone
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My entry...

Into the Sun

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^^Nice shot, but it seems pretty blatantly side-lit to me. The shadows are even going left to right in the frame.
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Originally Posted by Billiam
^^Nice shot, but it seems pretty blatantly side-lit to me. The shadows are even going left to right in the frame.
Thanks! I guess "shooting into the sun" and "back-lit" are subjective terms.
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Originally Posted by Billiam
^^Nice shot, but it seems pretty blatantly side-lit to me. The shadows are even going left to right in the frame.
mmm I dont know, I might go for 3/4 backlight on that.


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