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stangg172004 11-05-2008 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by I Go To Costco (Post 10158573)
That APR Tuned CC is hot!! But where's the big turbo??? :mad:

behind the engine towards the bottom

Time For Sleeep 11-05-2008 09:16 PM

this car is absolutely gorgeous; the iterations with the big wheels are absolutely spot on on stock wheel fitment

gocubsgo55 11-05-2008 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by stangg172004 (Post 10158840)
behind the engine towards the bottom

...and slightly toward the passenger side.

sho_nuff1997 11-05-2008 09:25 PM

Holy Shit! That is beautiful!! :drool:

phile 11-05-2008 09:36 PM

And that children is how a good looking car is designed (still don't like the taillights). Someone please tell Acura.

sho_nuff1997 11-05-2008 09:42 PM

I really like the CC, but ~$43K for a loaded VR6 4Motion seems pretty steep.

LuvMyTSX 11-06-2008 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by sho_nuff1997 (Post 10159064)
I really like the CC, but ~$43K for a loaded VR6 4Motion seems pretty steep.

:werd: Price tops out way too high for a Passat IMO.

taitando 11-06-2008 12:11 PM

^Really. You're now in Audi territory, which of course some argue is the same as VW. At $43k, why get a CC when you can get the B8 A4 or any other luxury make? I think you'd have to be a total VW diehard or simply really love the design of the CC.

stangg172004 11-06-2008 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by taitando (Post 10160761)
^Really. You're now in Audi territory, which of course some argue is the same as VW. At $43k, why get a CC when you can get the B8 A4 or any other luxury make? I think you'd have to be a total VW diehard or simply really love the design of the CC.

well its a dif segment, people who buy the cc will be looking for something trendy but dont want to pay for a CLS...

Moog-Type-S 11-06-2008 04:45 PM

^^ Pretty much....and it starts at $26k

Moog-Type-S 11-24-2008 04:44 PM

Volkswagen: Passat (Formerly NMS) news **2012 Unveiled (page 2)**
 
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Although at first glance this shiny black car may not like anything exceptional, it’s actually the very first “mule” ever photographed of Volkswagen’s soon-to-be Chattanooga-built “mid-market” sedan. The new sedan is intended to go head-to-head with the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry.

Referred to as the NMS (as in “new mid-market sedan”), this new car will fit in-between the Jetta and Passat in VW’s lineup, and will likely have a starting price of around $20,000.

In contrast to most future vehicle plans, Volkswagen has openly mentioned the NMS and what they hope to accomplish with this vehicle, as well as required amenities. VW has hinted that the new sedan will boast generous legroom, a larger trunk, bigger cup holders, improved interior quality, a six-speed dual clutch transmission, gas and diesel powerplants and the possibility of all-wheel drive.

Initially, engines and transmissions will be manufactured in Mexico – the same ones as found in the New Beetle and Jetta. This test mule – as clearly seen on the paper affixed to the windshield – is powered by VW’s 2.5-liter I5.

In addition to the North American market, VW may be also developing this platform for the Chinese market.

VW’s new Tennessee plant is expected to be up and running by early 2011, so look for the NMS to hit the market sometime after that.

Motohip 11-24-2008 05:37 PM

Seems so redundant. I like the front end though.

Sclass88 11-24-2008 05:56 PM

I thought the Jetta went head to head with the Accord and Camry... :ponder:

Moog-Type-S 11-24-2008 06:05 PM

I think the Jetta is heading down market (think corolla)
Passat is heading upmarket (see Passat CC)

The new sedan will be in the middle to compete with Camry & Accord.

Motohip 11-24-2008 06:06 PM

Then what about the golf?

AsianRage 11-24-2008 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Motohip (Post 10221158)
Then what about the golf?

Doesn't it compete with the civic? :thumbsup:

Motohip 11-24-2008 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by AsianRage (Post 10221205)
Doesn't it compete with the civic? :thumbsup:

But he said the Jetta's moving downmarket...(to compete with Civic?)?

invisiblewar 11-24-2008 06:35 PM

golf= yaris/fit????? we aint gettin the polo

knight rider 11-24-2008 09:11 PM

The Jetta competes with the Civic (sub-compact class). I never understood this because I think it's a little big for the class, but when you get inside one you'll see why. Not much room, but relatively comfortable.

love099 11-24-2008 09:56 PM

the vw nms looks good anyway... but i can't help but compare it to the honda fit...

titan 11-24-2008 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by Motohip (Post 10221158)
Then what about the golf?

I think the Golf competes with the Yaris, Versa, Fit, and upcoming Fiesta. The Jetta competes with the Focus, Civic, Corolla, and up coming Cruze. It leaves the current Passat in an odd position, though, if it's phased out in favor of the CC, it makes sense. The CC is positioned as a very sporty FWD flaghship, competing against the Maxima. :bandito:

myron 11-25-2008 05:01 PM

Jetta and Golf are both competition for civic. As there is a civic 2 door and 4 door, there is a Golf and Jetta.

AsianRage 11-25-2008 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by myron (Post 10224671)
Jetta and Golf are both competition for civic. As there is a civic 2 door and 4 door, there is a Golf and Jetta.


Exactly.

Sclass88 11-25-2008 09:14 PM

I'm confused now... I never thought of the Jetta as an alternative to a Civic or Carolla, always compared it to the Accord/Camry... Guess i was wrong :shrug:

titan 11-25-2008 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by myron (Post 10224671)
Jetta and Golf are both competition for civic. As there is a civic 2 door and 4 door, there is a Golf and Jetta.

True. I stand corrected.

dom 11-25-2008 09:32 PM

Jetta has always been smaller than the Camry/Accord. I never saw it as competition. The Passat was more in line with those two but seemed tad too expensive to be a reasonable alternative. This car makes sense.

phile 11-25-2008 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by Sclass88 (Post 10225423)
I'm confused now... I never thought of the Jetta as an alternative to a Civic or Carolla, always compared it to the Accord/Camry... Guess i was wrong :shrug:

No, you're half right. VW positions itself as sort of a half a step up from the mainstream brands. They're like semi-luxury, but they don't really want to step on the toes of Audi.

in other words, the Passat sits slightly higher than an Accord and a Camry, but it's lower than a Lexus ES or an Acura TL or Audi A4. The Jetta is positioned above a Civic, but doesn't really compete with the Accord.

dom 11-25-2008 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by phile (Post 10225476)
No, you're half right. VW positions itself as sort of a half a step up from the mainstream brands. They're like semi-luxury, but they don't really want to step on the toes of Audi.

in other words, the Passat sits slightly higher than an Accord and a Camry, but it's lower than a Lexus ES or an Acura TL or Audi A4. The Jetta is positioned above a Civic, but doesn't really compete with the Accord.

Well put.

biker 11-26-2008 03:10 AM

VW might want to become the "folks' car" (the original intent and translation of the name) but it'll be entering the toughest market segment in the world - mid sized sedans in NA. With the domestics having to rely more on that segment for their sales, competition will only get tougher. The plant in TN will solve the cost part of the issue (they could never compete on price with Euro built cars) but design and reliability will have to be great to make any kind of inroads in this segment.

Motohip 11-26-2008 10:49 AM

So I drive a Folkswagen?

biker 11-26-2008 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Motohip (Post 10227082)
So I drive a Folksvagen?

That's the way it's pronounced in German.

Motohip 11-26-2008 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by biker (Post 10227094)
That's the way it's pronounced in German.

How do they pronounce Audi? Same way we do?

myron 11-26-2008 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by biker (Post 10227094)
That's the way it's pronounced in German.

thats true. It also means People's Car or something along those lines

chill_dog 11-26-2008 12:47 PM

Meh.

Moog-Type-S 11-26-2008 12:54 PM

Very much a test mule
 

This is said to be the new Volkswagen new mid-size sedan “NMS” which is in test mule form. The model will be produced at the new plant in Chattanooga, and the image was captured by zoom lens when the car was being loaded onto a transporter.

The image shows a sign in the windshield which reads “VW 411 NMS.” The letters NMS have publicly been referred to by Volkswagen as the codename for the new Chattanooga vehicle.

A corporate official from Volkswagen said that this is “unfortunately, this is not the NMS.”

This vehicle is built on the Jetta chassis which may also include some components of a new midsize sedan (NMS) being tested,” he added.
http://www.easycarblog.com/2008/11/i...lkswagen.html/

Guess we will have to wait a while longer to see what the NMS actually will look like.

SG81 11-26-2008 01:26 PM

i really like the front

Moog-Type-S 01-26-2009 11:50 AM

VW NMS (new mid-market sedan) Spied again
 

Volkswagen has some pretty ambitious sales goals for the U.S. market in the coming years, with the bulk of those plans centering around one new VW model — the new mid-market sedan, or NMS for short. Our spy photographers managed to catch-up with the future Toyota Camry-fighter, marking the first time the vehicle has been spotted in the United States.

Although these are simply low-resolution camera phone images, this is the very first time Volkswagen’s soon-to-be Chattanooga-built “mid-market” sedan has ever been spotted (and photographed) in the United States. The new sedan is intended to go head-to-head with the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry.

Referred to as the NMS, this new car will fit in-between the Jetta and Passat in VW’s lineup, and will likely have a starting price of around $20,000.

In contrast to most future vehicle plans, Volkswagen has openly mentioned the NMS and what they hope to accomplish with this vehicle, as well as required amenities. VW has hinted that the new sedan will boast generous legroom, a larger trunk, bigger cup holders, improved interior quality, a six-speed dual clutch transmission, gas and diesel powerplants and the possibility of all-wheel drive.

Initially, engines and transmissions will be manufactured in Mexico – the same ones as found in the New Beetle and Jetta. A previously-spotted test mule – as clearly seen on the paper affixed to the windshield – was powered by VW’s 2.5-liter I5.

In addition to the North American market, VW may be also developing this platform for the Chinese market.

VW’s new Tennessee plant is expected to be up and running by early 2011, so look for the NMS to hit the market sometime after that.
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invisiblewar 01-26-2009 01:02 PM

it looks like the last gen camry

biker 01-26-2009 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Motohip (Post 10227121)
How do they pronounce Audi? Same way we do?

Yes.

Moog-Type-S 01-26-2009 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by invisiblewar (Post 10440698)
it looks like the last gen camry

So long as it looks nothing like the current Camry...that's a good thing:thumbsup:


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