Volkswagen: Passat News
#371
Looks like the designer has been spending too much time driving his 78 Trans Am.
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_Rqo2zl.../78ta50.12.jpg
Never a big fan of the dimpled metal.
http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_Rqo2zl.../78ta50.12.jpg
Never a big fan of the dimpled metal.
#373
I like the car, but theres just something about the front.
Also, they need to swap out the dimpled aluminum for the carbon fiber found in the RS4. I like everything else about the interior though. I also dont like the wheels, they need something more sporty.
Id like to see an R36 Jetta.
Also, they need to swap out the dimpled aluminum for the carbon fiber found in the RS4. I like everything else about the interior though. I also dont like the wheels, they need something more sporty.
Id like to see an R36 Jetta.
#375
Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Volkswagon has to be the most overrated car company in the world, other than Geely of course.
Overweight and unreliable. What a combo!
Overweight and unreliable. What a combo!
I had a VW. It was a nightmare with all the electrical issues it had.
#381
Originally Posted by gocubsgo55
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come on! I got my hopes up. I want to see the R36 Rabbit!
come on! I got my hopes up. I want to see the R36 Rabbit!
While VW is working on a successor for the MkV Golf, its engineers haven't finished with the current machine.
Test drivers are evaluating a final flagship for the hatchback range, badged the R36. Powered by the 3.6-litre V6 that debuted in the Passat, the car will offer between 280 and 300bhp. Due on sale early next year, it will hit the road 12 months ahead of the March 2008 debut of the new-look Golf. Prices are still being kept under wraps, although it's expected the newcomer will cost at least £1,500 more than the current R32, weighing in at £26,000.
The model is based on the four-wheel-drive R32, but the increased performance means changes will be made to the suspension and brakes. Extra cooling will also be required to feed cold air to the bigger engine. New 19-inch alloys, inspired by the Lamborghini Gallardo's rims, will be available, too.
Thanks to the revised suspension settings and larger wheels, the car will be more driver-focused and less refined than the R32, which was praised for its ability to cover ground quickly, but criticised for its lack of character. With an additional 50bhp, the new car is expected to be able to sprint from 0-60mph in only 6.0 seconds, while the maximum speed will be limited to 155mph. However, in-gear performance is likely to give the R36 its greatest appeal, although the engineers' biggest challenge will be retaining the light, direct steering and supple ride of the brilliant Golf GTI.
Test drivers are evaluating a final flagship for the hatchback range, badged the R36. Powered by the 3.6-litre V6 that debuted in the Passat, the car will offer between 280 and 300bhp. Due on sale early next year, it will hit the road 12 months ahead of the March 2008 debut of the new-look Golf. Prices are still being kept under wraps, although it's expected the newcomer will cost at least £1,500 more than the current R32, weighing in at £26,000.
The model is based on the four-wheel-drive R32, but the increased performance means changes will be made to the suspension and brakes. Extra cooling will also be required to feed cold air to the bigger engine. New 19-inch alloys, inspired by the Lamborghini Gallardo's rims, will be available, too.
Thanks to the revised suspension settings and larger wheels, the car will be more driver-focused and less refined than the R32, which was praised for its ability to cover ground quickly, but criticised for its lack of character. With an additional 50bhp, the new car is expected to be able to sprint from 0-60mph in only 6.0 seconds, while the maximum speed will be limited to 155mph. However, in-gear performance is likely to give the R36 its greatest appeal, although the engineers' biggest challenge will be retaining the light, direct steering and supple ride of the brilliant Golf GTI.
it will be a euro only car...
#383
Originally Posted by Black CL-S 4-Life
Not bad but what are the performance numbers?
Originally Posted by lfn
Volkswagen today unveiled the much-anticipated Passat R36 — a high performance variant of the popular sedan and wagon. The 296 horsepower R36 features a DSG transmission and 4Motion all-wheel-drive. Zero to 62 mph takes 5.6 seconds for the sedan and 5.8 seconds for the wagon, thanks to a power 3.6 liter FSI engine. The cars have a top speed of 155 mph.
The R36 will be on display at the Essen Motor Show in Germany, taking place December 1 to 10. For a look at both the wagon and sedan, have a look at our gallery after the jump…
The R36 will be on display at the Essen Motor Show in Germany, taking place December 1 to 10. For a look at both the wagon and sedan, have a look at our gallery after the jump…
Overall, nice looking car for under 30k with DSG to boot. This vs other under 30k cars, tough choice with VW leading.
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Last edited by heyitsme; 11-16-2006 at 07:13 PM.
#386
Originally Posted by heyitsme
Not a fan of Carbon fiber in general on the dash. Sat in a 3 series with PP at the auto show and thought the carbon fiber trim was scotch tape. Thats just the look I guess. This dash kinda reminds me of the bentley interior with the diamond plate trim.
Overall, nice looking car for under 30k with DSG to boot. This vs other under 30k cars, tough choice with VW leading.
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Overall, nice looking car for under 30k with DSG to boot. This vs other under 30k cars, tough choice with VW leading.
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#387
Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Where did you see the pricing? I assuming this thing was going to be a tad over $30k..
I do a quick leftlanenews.com check at work every so often and saw a price at 29k a couple days ago clicking on links, didn't think much of it cause it was reasonable. Now I see nothing so maybe I'm completely off base. That 29k price is why I've been so on the car this week.
Post 30k, the car is lost among luxury cars.
#389
Originally Posted by heyitsme
I do a quick leftlanenews.com check at work every so often and saw a price at 29k a couple days ago clicking on links, didn't think much of it cause it was reasonable. Now I see nothing so maybe I'm completely off base. That 29k price is why I've been so on the car this week.
Post 30k, the car is lost among luxury cars.
Post 30k, the car is lost among luxury cars.
Yea i think we will see it being over 30k, i mean look how much the current 3.6 is going for...
2007 Volkswagen Passat
3.6L 4Motion 4dr Sedan AWD (3.6L 6cyl 6A) is already $31,910 without any options.
#390
Volkswagen to debut 60mpg (UK) diesel Passat at Geneva Auto Show
Source: Autobloggreen.com
Volkswagen already rolled out a 72mpg (UK) Polo.
This is where VW should claim new territory in the US now that low-sulfur diesel is starting to show up.
Why pay for costly hybrid systems when you can get a Passat or Polo that kills the Prius' fuel efficiency.
Not to mention that the particulate emissions are extremely low in both VWs.
Note: I added (UK) to the gallons estimate because of the mention of the car being available in the UK. Seemed only natural to be in Imperial gallons. Gav, if this is wrong, please edit accordingly.
The Geneva Motor Show is coming up in a little over five weeks and the news about debuts is starting to roll out. One of the new models that will see the light of day in Switzerland is the Volkswagen Passat BlueMotion. VW is using the BlueMotion label to indicate the least-thirsty version of each of their models, such as the Polo BlueMotion. Since Volkswagen doesn't make any hybrids, that means all the BlueMotion models will be diesels. In the case of the Passat, it will emit 103g/km of CO2 and have a fuel consumption rating of 60.3 mpg. In order to achieve those figures, VW will probably be tweaking the aerodynamics, possibly including smaller mirrors, modified fascia with openings closed off and narrower tires. The gearing will probably be optimized and lower rolling resistance tires will be used.
This is where VW should claim new territory in the US now that low-sulfur diesel is starting to show up.
Why pay for costly hybrid systems when you can get a Passat or Polo that kills the Prius' fuel efficiency.
Not to mention that the particulate emissions are extremely low in both VWs.
Note: I added (UK) to the gallons estimate because of the mention of the car being available in the UK. Seemed only natural to be in Imperial gallons. Gav, if this is wrong, please edit accordingly.
#393
Originally Posted by SSMTL01
Wow- thats impressive. Any performance numbers?
0-60 in probably high 9s. Remember these are going to be low-HP/high-Tq engines with very specifically shod low resistance tires. It's all about fuel economy.
I would imagine they will be nicely appointed, very quiet, and very miserly.
#395
Originally Posted by biker
Euro Accord already has this beat - it got 90MPG with its diesel.
It's some limey moof doing circles on a banked track
#396
Originally Posted by charliemike
That's on a track. Not real world by any stretch of the imagination.
It's some limey moof doing circles on a banked track
It's some limey moof doing circles on a banked track
I'm pretty sure if a Passat with similar weight to the Euro Accord was used, the Honda would be right up there and probably beat it in millage tests.
#397
Passat CC Revealed
From Worldcarfans...
Volkswagen have premiered their all-new Passat CC at Detroit today, presenting it as a car 'anything but mainstream'. Based off the Passat platform, the new coupe is a model whose concept is based around that of the Mercedes CLS, Volkswagen maintaining its new CC is a vehicle 'embracing differences'; from comfort to dynamism and from sporty interior to a spacious one.
Riding 5cm lower than a standard Passat and lengthened by some 3cm, the new CC has an accentuated fluid design and a more sporting stance, while sharing no body panels with that of its sedan counterpart. Suiting the car's sweeping lines is a new panoramic glass roof, providing an airier cabin.
The initial engine line-up will consist of a 160 hp 1.8-litre TSI unit with the range topped by a 3.6-litre V6 FSI model producing 300 hp. Following its European launch in the second quarter of 2008 and in the fourth quarter for North American markets, a 2.0-litre turbocharged FSI engine is likely to join the range. Power is mated to Volkswagen's seven-speed DSG gearbox, while drive is sent to solely the front wheels or optionally to all.
Riding 5cm lower than a standard Passat and lengthened by some 3cm, the new CC has an accentuated fluid design and a more sporting stance, while sharing no body panels with that of its sedan counterpart. Suiting the car's sweeping lines is a new panoramic glass roof, providing an airier cabin.
The initial engine line-up will consist of a 160 hp 1.8-litre TSI unit with the range topped by a 3.6-litre V6 FSI model producing 300 hp. Following its European launch in the second quarter of 2008 and in the fourth quarter for North American markets, a 2.0-litre turbocharged FSI engine is likely to join the range. Power is mated to Volkswagen's seven-speed DSG gearbox, while drive is sent to solely the front wheels or optionally to all.