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Old 11-11-2009, 12:14 PM
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Jetta will now = civic/corolla
Frankly, I think it's been that way for awhile. Or perhaps the low-end models were about what the entry level Accord was. But it felt really cheap. Cheap for $18k, anyway.
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Yeah, hard to tell at this point.

Let's just wait for that MMS, which is going to be a great vehicle, imo.
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The Jetta is already pretty big and now they're making it bigger? Maybe VW didn't get the memo that everyone is downsizing.
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The Jetta is already pretty big and now they're making it bigger? Maybe VW didn't get the memo that everyone is downsizing.
There just making it bigger so that the fatty Americans can fit into it.
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so the wagon will be spied in the future? no page 8 for me
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2010 Volkswagen Jetta TDI Cup Street Edition coming to U.S. in 2010

Volkswagen of America announced today that the Jetta TDI Cup “Street” Edition will hit North American dealerships in January 2010. Like the TDI Cup race car, the “Street” Edition is equipped with the optional TDI Cup Edition Kit, which includes a new front bumper, side skirts and rear valance that are found on the TDI Cup race cars.

The Volkswagen Jetta TDI Cup is powered by a 2.0L clean diesel that makes 140-hp and a maximum torque of 236 lb-ft. Power is transmitted to the wheels via a 6-speed manual transmission or a DSG automatic transmission. All ”Street” Edition Jetta TDI’s feature larger brakes with red calipers, sway bars and European sport tuned suspension from the performance oriented GLI.

Pricing for the 2010 Jetta TDI Cup edition starts at $25,000 and it qualifies for a $1,300 Advanced Lean Burn Technology Motor Vehicle Federal Income Tax Credit.






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Jetta TDI Cup ‘Street’ Edition Racing Into Dealer Showrooms Soon

HERNDON, Va., Nov. 4 /PRNewswire/ — Volkswagen of America, Inc. today announced the Jetta TDI Cup “Street” Edition will be available in dealer showrooms January 2010. The concept debuted in Las Vegas during the 2008 SEMA (Specialty Equipment Market Association) show. Following the SEMA show the concept was displayed at TDI Cup races throughout the country, where it was well received by enthusiasts and consumers alike.

“Since our inaugural TDI Cup series in 2008 we have received numerous inquiries as to whether or not we would offer a TDI Cup replica vehicle,” said Mark Barnes, Chief Operating Officer, Volkswagen of America, Inc. “We’re thrilled to announce that a special edition Jetta TDI Cup Street Edition will be available in dealer showrooms early next year. What makes this special edition so unique is that it features the optional, race inspired, TDI Cup body kit package combined with our clean diesel engine. The Jetta TDI Cup Street Edition is one exceptional special model that is as fun-to-drive as it is to look at,” added Barnes.

The similarities between the TDI Cup race car and the “Street” Edition equipped with the optional TDI Cup Edition Kit are apparent at first glance — the TDI Cup “Street” Edition Kit features the front bumper, side skirts and rear valance that are found on the TDI Cup race cars. The enhancements to the TDI Cup “Street” Edition go well beyond cosmetics. All “Street” Edition Jetta TDI’s feature larger brakes with red calipers, sway bars and European sport tuned suspension from the performance oriented GLI.

The TDI Cup “Street” Edition is powered by the award winning 2.0-liter clean diesel engine that produces 140 horsepower and an impressive 236 lbs.-ft. of torque. The engine makes use of an advanced electronically controlled turbocharger and common rail direct injection technology, and can be mated to either a six-speed manual transmission or the highly acclaimed DSG® transmission.

Other standard upgrades on the Jetta TDI Cup “Street” Edition include sport seats with Interlagos cloth, and a leather-wrapped, multi-function steering wheel that features paddle shifters when equipped with the DSG transmission. Completing this dynamic special edition is a set of 18 inch Charleston wheels with performance all-season tires. This special edition starts around $25,000–staying true to the brands mantra of offering affordable German engineering that is a whole lot of fun to drive.

The Jetta TDI Cup “Street” Edition, like the Jetta TDI, Jetta SportWagen TDI, Golf TDI and Touareg TDI qualifies for an Advanced Lean Burn Technology Motor Vehicle Federal Income Tax Credit. The tax credit on the “Street” Edition is $1,300.

Like all 2010 models, the Jetta TDI Cup “Street” Edition also comes standard with Volkswagen’s Carefree Maintenance Program, with this program there are no charges for the scheduled maintenance described in the vehicle’s maintenance booklet for the length of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty — three years or 36,000 miles, whichever occurs first.
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I'd buy that car for $23,700 ... Too bad there won't be a Cup Variant
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^ you know when the markeeters say "it starts at $25K" the showroom sticker prices will be way higher than that. Plus the demand for TDI models will ensure people are paying close to sticker.
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Is the next Jetta based on the new more rear-biased platform as the A4?
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this updated Jetta will be built on a re-engineered fifth-generation Jetta platform.
I'm thinking it's not.
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^ you know when the markeeters say "it starts at $25K" the showroom sticker prices will be way higher than that. Plus the demand for TDI models will ensure people are paying close to sticker.
True but you could probably order one for around $25k ... Then take the $1300 Socialist Fuel Credit and blammo
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My eyes might have fooled me but I could have sworn I saw a facelifted Jetta Sportwagon at a Washington DC VW dealers today.

Front end looked so much better than the previous one.
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Jetta Sportwagon is facelifted + new interior for 2010 like the new Golf but the Jetta Sedan remains the same.

I also think it looks much better than the last one.
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Jetta Sportwagon is facelifted + new interior for 2010 like the new Golf but the Jetta Sedan remains the same.

I also think it looks much better than the last one.
Ahh, maybe they were just late getting here. I haven't seen one in person until today.
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http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/06...kswagen-jetta/



Volkswagen’s made the sixth-generation Jetta longer, leaner and cheaper than its predecessor and, for the first time, it isn’t a Golf with a trunk.

The 2011 Jetta ditches the wildly prolific Golf platform for its own architecture, which VW calls the New Compact Sedan. It’s handsome enough in a conservative German kind of way and more chiseled, but it’s really staid. The styling riffs on the New Compact Coupe concept car yet lacks the concept’s aggression. The result is a car that looks like a 7/8 scale CC and is essentially the same size as the Toyota Camry.

Choose one of four engines. The list starts with a 104-horsepower 1.2-liter gasoline mill. Then there’s a 121-horsepower 1.4-liter, the top o’ the line 200-horsepower 2.0-liter and our favorite, a 2.0-liter diesel. The oilburner produces 138 horsepower and 236 pound feet of torque. The diesel and biggest gas engines are available with a six-speed DSG. Look for a hybrid in 2012.

Starting price is around $16,000, which makes the new Jetta a bit cheaper than the current Jetta, which starts at $17,735.



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http://content.usatoday.com/communit...e-2011-jetta/1


The new Jetty is about 3.5 inches longer than the 2010 and has what VW brags will be the roomiest back seat in the compact class. In fact, its 38.1 inches of rear legroom (up 2.6 inches from 2010) could trump some mid-size sedans on paper at least.




Spec legroom of about 36 inches is enough to fit most adults comfortably, depending on the rest of the interior layout. Less than 36 begins to get tight. Less than 30 -- as in some SUV third rows -- is ridiculous. Of course, specs can be deceiving. Creative design of the backs of the front seats can make a rear seat more comfy than one in another car with a higher number on paper.

The new Jetta is a critical part of VW's plan to dramatically boost U.S. sales. U.S. CEO Stefan Jacoby calls the new Jetta "the beginning of a new era for Volkswagen."

More room is one part of the strategy. Offering it for less money is another. The 2011's base price of about $16,000 is down significantly from the 2010 Jetta ($17,735 to start) and puts it more in line with compact category sales leaders -- such as Toyota's Corolla ($15,540 to start for 2010) or Honda's Civic ($15,665 for 2010) -- and Chevrolet's all-new 2011 Cruze ($16,995 to start). And the base Jetta will have features such as air conditioning that you don't get till you move up to, for example, the $16,405 Civic.

More details of the 2011 Jetta revealed by VW:



Size: 182.7 inches long, 57.1 inches tall and 70.1 inches wide, or several inches longer and a little wider than Corolla or Civic.
Engines: Four engines will be available, including a 2.0-liter base gasoline 4-cylinder, a 2.5-liter gas 5-cylinder, a turbocharged gas 2.0-liter (in the sporty GLI model) and a turbocharged diesel 2.0-liter TDI model. Full power specs on all engines weren't given, but VW did say the diesel is expected to generate about 235 pounds-feet of torque and take the new Jetta from 0 to 60 mph in 8.7 seconds.
Transmissions: Six-speed DSG automatic optional, manual standard on all models (five speeds for most, six for the GLI and TDI).
U.S. model range: S, SE, SEL, TDI diesel and turbo GLI, about parallel to current lineup.
Safety: Electronic stability control and tire pressure monitoring continue to be standard (not true across the board in the class). Six air bags.

More space also is being designed into the Passat replacement coming later. Passat is now on the small side for mid-size cars. The new VW mid-size sedam (name TBA) was described at a VW session in Germany last fall as "a match for Camry." Later, VW clarified that it meant for Camry's size -- NOT for Camry's less-than-sporting personality.
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a compact sedan the size of a Camry...got it.
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a compact sedan the size of a Camry...got it.
The author of that article obviously does not know the size of the Camry - the new Jetta, while bigger, is still only 182". He probably read the marketing talk on the new Passat and got confused.
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the rear end is too Audi-esque. not that that's a bad thing, but they should separate the two brands style-wise.
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Why is it that marketing guys always show some AT (or maybe DSG in this case) tranny being shifted as a manual when in real life that almost never happens. In case of this car they should have shown a real MT if they're trying to make a point.
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Yeah the rear is WAY too Audi A4.

I see we're continuing the trend of make cars bigger (and probably still heavier).

And not to continue complaining, but they're still going to keep the I-5? WHYYYYYYY? It's not a good engine for this class, sucking fuel like a midsize Camry or Accord, not a Corolla or Civic. They need a new 2L or smaller I-4 like the new Focus, and the super-turbo charger I-4 or turbo 2.0 could be the upgrade engine (instead of just doing a large displacement I-4 like Kia, Toyota, Mazda and others do). That keeps the economy up as well as the power.

Whatever. Like the Civic and Corolla, these once strong players have lost their stride.
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Engines: Four engines will be available, including a 2.0-liter base gasoline 4-cylinder, a 2.5-liter gas 5-cylinder, a turbocharged gas 2.0-liter (in the sporty GLI model) and a turbocharged diesel 2.0-liter TDI model.
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The author of that article obviously does not know the size of the Camry - the new Jetta, while bigger, is still only 182". He probably read the marketing talk on the new Passat and got confused.
It is the rear leg room of 36inch that make it best in class closer to mid size. car is wider, taller than compacts. It is mid size car for price of compact.
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Isn't that 2.0L a foreign affair?
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^^ Even if so, there are still 3 engine options...that's quite a lot for people to find the best engine that fits their needs.
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I like it but a tad mature now. Will VW release a smaller sporty model now?
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looks bland but good. at least it doesnt look like a corolla anymore. i felt the current jetta was already roomy enough im surprised they made it that much larger
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^^ Even if so, there are still 3 engine options...that's quite a lot for people to find the best engine that fits their needs.
Well yes, you are correct.

Buuuut two of those three engines are in more exclusive, expensive models which run from 23,000 up to over 30 thou. So for the regular Jetta models there is only one, and it's a rather thirsty, over-cylindered engine.

VW says the new base engine has 115 PS. That would be the 2.0L right? That's less than 115 horsepower, which is well down from the rest of the group.

Like I said, maybe I just complain too much. But I think VW needs to think their engine strategy out a little more with the regular model(s).
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Car is like little smaller than Audi A4. but with 38inch rear leg room. it even surpass Honda Accord/Toyota Camry.






2011 Volkswagen Jetta - Web Exclusive
The North American version of the new Jetta features four engines in the US and Canada.
June 15, 2010
WORLD DEBUT OF 2011 VW JETTA

Prices starting around $16000


Volkswagen of America today announced the world debut of its all-new 2011 Jetta. As the company's most popular model, it's set to deliver style, precision German engineering and Carefree Maintenance at an extremely accessible price. At a starting price point of around $16,000, the 2011 Mk6 Jetta offers best-in-class rear legroom, a premium interior and Volkswagen essentials.

Unveiled for the first time in Times Square, New York, the Jetta features clean lines, refined architecture and premium style. It will be available in the US this October.

Engine & Transmission
The North American version of the new Jetta features four engines in the US and Canada. These include a 2.0-liter turbo-diesel direct-injection (TDI) Clean Diesel, which features common-rail injection with 138hp, 236 lb-ft of torque and boasting a highway fuel economy rating of 42mpg.

Additional engines include a 2.0, 2.5 R5, and 2.0 TSI. These are all gasoline offerings, with the new base engine giving 113hp and a combined fuel economy of 28mpg. The 138hp 2.5-liter engine will remain as a middle offering, while the new GLI will be powered by the 2.0-liter turbocharged TSI with 198hp. All Jetta engines will be offered with a manual transmission as standard equipment. An automatic transmission will also be available with each engine version as an option. On the new 2.0-liter TDI and 2.0-liter TSI, Volkswagen will offer the 6-speed DSG. In the US market, S, SE, SEL and TDI versions of the Jetta will be available, as will a 2.0-liter GLI.


Exterior
The Mk6 Jetta has been completely overhauled, inside and out. Its new wheelbase and overall length are significantly bigger than its predecessor - resulting in more space and greater comfort.

At 182.7" long, 57.1" tall and 70.1" wide, it is more than 3.5" longer than its Mk5 predecessor. On the front end of the car, the prominent horizontal lines defines the design. The high-gloss black radiator grille combine with trapezoidal headlights. Under this is the fully painted bumper. Below that, another cooling intake and the tray-shaped front spoiler gives the car a sporty finish. The front-end also shows a powerful transition from the V-shaped hood to the fenders; the shoulder section was derived from the earlier NCC concept car, and provides dynamic and muscular styling.

The styling characteristics in the profile of the Jetta meld into yet another interpretation of the 'design DNA' conceptualized by Walter de Silva, Head of Design for the Volkswagen Group, and the German Head of Design for the Volkswagen Brand, Klaus Bischoff. An example of the unique styling is found in the shoulder or 'tornado' line and the emphasized wheels arches. Thanks to wide track, the wheel arches also form a precise transition to the tires, which could be as big as 18" on GLI models.

With integrated turn signal indicators, the styling of the mirrors emulates the larger CC model. The tail lights are split into two sections, extending on either side from the fender into the trunk.



Interior
A key benefit of the extended wheelbase is a more comfortable layout of the rear seating area. Legroom is now a long 38.1"; a 2.6" gain over the previous model. Customers looking for personalization can, for the first time, have interior accents changed at a Volkswagen dealer. The new steering wheel designs impress both visually and to the touch. The center console has new controls for climate, radio and navigation systems. This console section is slightly inclined toward the driver. Also in optimal view are the round instruments with the multifunction display (trip computer) located between them. The rear bench is split 40/60, increasing the versatility. The trunk can also be opened from inside the car by a remote unlock switch.

Safety
Previous Jetta versions received accolades for safety with features like electronic stability control and tire pressure monitoring standard. The Mk6 Jetta has been further enhanced with even more protections and crash safety improvements. Up to six airbags (two front airbags, two side airbags in front, two window airbags/thorax airbags in the area of the front side windows) are part of the equipment package
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Is VW bringing the Polo over?
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I wish VW would make that Jetta coupe concept (but with a normal gas engine in it). WHile they are at it, maybe they could make a 2.0 liter turbo 4 with a little more than 200 hp. That was impressive in, oh, 2004.....
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The Golf R's engine is what VW needs in the GLI/GTI.
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So, next year the Passat is tossed and the NMS built in Chattanooga becomes the mid sized sedan. The car under the Jetta will be the Polo/Rabbit/Golf?
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Very nice design. This will be a very good seller for VW.

turbo gas or diesel - both sound good to me. Maybe a wagon again?
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