Volkswagen: Jetta News
11-18-2004, 03:56 PM
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VW just went generic
11-19-2004, 05:45 PM
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Jumpin' Jetta: Volkswagen releases new Jetta photos, details; debut set for '05 L.A. show - - Source: Autoweek
Volkswagen has released the first official photos and information of its all-new, fifth-generation Jetta sedan, which is set to make its worldwide debut at the upcoming Los Angeles Auto Show in January.
Due to go on sale this coming March in the U.S. and Canada, the new Jetta has been significantly restyled and features larger dimensions than its predecessor. Pricing and final details will be announced at the vehicle’s Los Angeles debut.
The new Jetta gets its first fully independent suspension system, using a multi-link rear and optimized front axle. A new, 2.5 liter, five-cylinder base engine generating 150 horsepower (versus the four-cylinder, 2.0-liter, 115 hp engine in the previous model) will power the vehicle. On the option list is a new six-speed automatic transmission with Tiptronic, featuring an available sport mode selection.
Later in 2005, Volkswagen will offer its DSG automanual transmission (available on TDI models only). Also available will be an electro-mechanical steering system, a new electronic stability program (ESP), and new-generation ABS all-disc brakes.
The new Jetta will be bigger than the outgoing model in several areas, with a larger trunk and more legroom to go with its updated interior. More standard comfort, safety and convenience features are also on tap. It will also have a stronger body than its predecessor, with double-digit improvements in its dynamic and torsional rigidity, according to VW.
The Jetta, which first went on sale in 1980 in the U.S., is Volkswagen’s most popular stateside vehicle, accounting for about 40 percent of the brand’s overall volume in the North Amercian market
It will be built at Volkswagen’s facility in Puebla, Mexico.
Due to go on sale this coming March in the U.S. and Canada, the new Jetta has been significantly restyled and features larger dimensions than its predecessor. Pricing and final details will be announced at the vehicle’s Los Angeles debut.
The new Jetta gets its first fully independent suspension system, using a multi-link rear and optimized front axle. A new, 2.5 liter, five-cylinder base engine generating 150 horsepower (versus the four-cylinder, 2.0-liter, 115 hp engine in the previous model) will power the vehicle. On the option list is a new six-speed automatic transmission with Tiptronic, featuring an available sport mode selection.
Later in 2005, Volkswagen will offer its DSG automanual transmission (available on TDI models only). Also available will be an electro-mechanical steering system, a new electronic stability program (ESP), and new-generation ABS all-disc brakes.
The new Jetta will be bigger than the outgoing model in several areas, with a larger trunk and more legroom to go with its updated interior. More standard comfort, safety and convenience features are also on tap. It will also have a stronger body than its predecessor, with double-digit improvements in its dynamic and torsional rigidity, according to VW.
The Jetta, which first went on sale in 1980 in the U.S., is Volkswagen’s most popular stateside vehicle, accounting for about 40 percent of the brand’s overall volume in the North Amercian market
It will be built at Volkswagen’s facility in Puebla, Mexico.
11-19-2004, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX 'R' US
It's not bad looking... but it's a rebadged Corolla...with less reliability
Sharing similiar tailights and nothing else =/ to the same. Siriously u have to be freaking blind to think this is a corolla. If anything the golf headlights fit better on this as a sedan than they do as a hatch.
11-19-2004, 09:46 PM
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Sharing similiar tailights and nothing else =/ to the same. Siriously u have to be freaking blind to think this is a corolla. If anything the golf headlights fit better on this as a sedan than they do as a hatch.
11-20-2004, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Typical sheep, read what they say.
11-20-2004, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Sharing similiar tailights and nothing else =/ to the same. Siriously u have to be freaking blind to think this is a corolla. If anything the golf headlights fit better on this as a sedan than they do as a hatch.
You could always see a jetta (any gen) on the road, from any distance, and know exaclty what it was without mistaking it for another.
This car looks as generic as any, and from a distance seems like it will most likely be mistaken for other makes.
11-20-2004, 09:45 AM
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check out www.vwvortex.com they have a good write up on the new jetta
11-20-2004, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sarlacc23
The overall shape of the car looks like a current gen corolla. From a front 3/4 angle the rear lines look civic-ish.
You could always see a jetta (any gen) on the road, from any distance, and know exaclty what it was without mistaking it for another.
This car looks as generic as any, and from a distance seems like it will most likely be mistaken for other makes.
You could always see a jetta (any gen) on the road, from any distance, and know exaclty what it was without mistaking it for another.
This car looks as generic as any, and from a distance seems like it will most likely be mistaken for other makes.
11-20-2004, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
You could say the same for most any new car, remaining the same = lost market share. The current jetta is overpriced considering its small as hell, I was totally disappointed in the jetta as far as size vs price, I couldn't even get in the back seat of this thing and pretend it was larger than a 911 back seat.
But I was referring to exterior design. The jetta always stood. You always knew what it looked like, and could always pick it out of crowd without thinking it was another make of car.
This design is more generic, or rather picking up on the idea of making it look like every other car is competes against (much like the mid 90's luxo sedans all looked similar in shape)
I'm just saying the design lost the uniqueness it had for the last decade and a half.
11-20-2004, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sarlacc23
I dont where the backseat and size comments are coming from...
But I was referring to exterior design. The jetta always stood. You always knew what it looked like, and could always pick it out of crowd without thinking it was another make of car.
This design is more generic, or rather picking up on the idea of making it look like every other car is competes against (much like the mid 90's luxo sedans all looked similar in shape)
I'm just saying the design lost the uniqueness it had for the last decade and a half.
But I was referring to exterior design. The jetta always stood. You always knew what it looked like, and could always pick it out of crowd without thinking it was another make of car.
This design is more generic, or rather picking up on the idea of making it look like every other car is competes against (much like the mid 90's luxo sedans all looked similar in shape)
I'm just saying the design lost the uniqueness it had for the last decade and a half.
Jetta stood as what? What has the Jetta ever stood as. It has never been anthing leading edge. If anything, this design has more to it than the current model.
11-20-2004, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Hows it generic, it reminds me more of a phaeton than a Toyota.The
Jetta stood as what? What has the Jetta ever stood as. It has never been anthing leading edge. If anything, this design has more to it than the current model.
Jetta stood as what? What has the Jetta ever stood as. It has never been anthing leading edge. If anything, this design has more to it than the current model.
I never said the jetta stood for anything ( i meant to say stood OUT, but i guess i forgot to type the word OUT.) I said the bodystyle always stood out, always was unique, always had its OWN identity, no other cars design looked like or really took after the jetta. a jetta was a jetta.
The new design is generic cause the overall shape of the car and lines look like, and from distances can be mistaken for other models of car.
And the phaetons look like passats. I think that everytime i see one on the highway, and take a second and then realize its a phaeton...nothing special about their designs either.
11-21-2004, 12:16 AM
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[QUOTE=sarlacc23]you're reading comprehension is beginning to boggle me right now.
I never said the jetta stood for anything. [QUOTE]
I guess if you want to pick apart words. The jetta design hasn't stood for any meaning, it hasn't broken any ground in the automotive world.
You say this new jetta looks:
"The overall shape of the new car looks like a current gen corolla."
I could see if the old jetta was the hottness, but to this day the old jetta aint hot. The new car actually brings a higher level of design down to the 20k market. The car has some of the presence as an A8 with its own new identity.
I never said the jetta stood for anything. [QUOTE]
I guess if you want to pick apart words. The jetta design hasn't stood for any meaning, it hasn't broken any ground in the automotive world.
You say this new jetta looks:
"The overall shape of the new car looks like a current gen corolla."
I could see if the old jetta was the hottness, but to this day the old jetta aint hot. The new car actually brings a higher level of design down to the 20k market. The car has some of the presence as an A8 with its own new identity.
11-21-2004, 12:21 AM
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[QUOTE=heyitsme]
I guess if you want to pick apart words. The jetta design hasn't stood for any meaning, it hasn't broken any ground in the automotive world.
You say this new jetta looks:
"The overall shape of the new car looks like a current gen corolla."
I could see if the old jetta was the hottness, but to this day the old jetta aint hot. The new car actually brings a higher level of design down to the 20k market. The car has some of the presence as an A8 with its own new identity.
Sigh, you really read what you want, and make it up from there dont you.
Yeah, the overall shape does look like a new corolla.
BUT I NEVER said the jetta design stood for any meaning, and i NEVER said the jetta design was groundbreaking. And I NEVER said the design of the jetta was the hotness.
What I DID SAY was the jetta has always had its own unique look. And this new design is generic.
And this new design has no presence of the A8 whatsoever, but thanks for the chuckle.
Originally Posted by sarlacc23
I guess if you want to pick apart words. The jetta design hasn't stood for any meaning, it hasn't broken any ground in the automotive world.
You say this new jetta looks:
"The overall shape of the new car looks like a current gen corolla."
I could see if the old jetta was the hottness, but to this day the old jetta aint hot. The new car actually brings a higher level of design down to the 20k market. The car has some of the presence as an A8 with its own new identity.
Yeah, the overall shape does look like a new corolla.
BUT I NEVER said the jetta design stood for any meaning, and i NEVER said the jetta design was groundbreaking. And I NEVER said the design of the jetta was the hotness.
What I DID SAY was the jetta has always had its own unique look. And this new design is generic.
And this new design has no presence of the A8 whatsoever, but thanks for the chuckle.
11-21-2004, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CLUofI
check out www.vwvortex.com they have a good write up on the new jetta
http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publi...cle_1062.shtml
11-21-2004, 08:12 PM
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Ok, Maybe I don't know how to do math very well but if they took a Gallardo V10 and cut it in half, why does it have about 30% of the HP? 
That 2.5L 5-cyl should have about 250hp
That 2.5L 5-cyl should have about 250hp
11-21-2004, 09:34 PM
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Ok, Maybe I don't know how to do math very well but if they took a Gallardo V10 and cut it in half, why does it have about 30% of the HP?
That 2.5L 5-cyl should have about 250hp
That 2.5L 5-cyl should have about 250hp
11-21-2004, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by phile
They also halved the displacement, though...from 5.0L to 2.5L.
If they cut the engine in half, wouldn't it be a given that the displacement is cut in half????
11-21-2004, 09:52 PM
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If they cut the engine in half, wouldn't it be a given that the displacement is cut in half????
11-21-2004, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by phile
Yeah, no shit...but notice I was clarifying it for someone who obviously didn't know that.
charliemike was saying that if the Gallardo's 500hp engine thats a 5.0L 10 cylinder got cut in half, it would be like the new Jetta's 5-cylinder 2.5L engine. But it's only 150hp instead of the assumed 250hp (half of 500hp). Makes perfect sense to me. In his statement he mentioned the 2.5L engine.
The answer though is that the Gallardo engine is an expensive, low volume, blueprinted, high fuel consumption, high performance engine.
The Jetta engine is high-volume that needs to be cheap, efficient and reliable. It's seriously de-tuned to be all that.
11-22-2004, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
Who didn't know that?
charliemike was saying that if the Gallardo's 500hp engine thats a 5.0L 10 cylinder got cut in half, it would be like the new Jetta's 5-cylinder 2.5L engine. But it's only 150hp instead of the assumed 250hp (half of 500hp). Makes perfect sense to me. In his statement he mentioned the 2.5L engine.
The answer though is that the Gallardo engine is an expensive, low volume, blueprinted, high fuel consumption, high performance engine.
The Jetta engine is high-volume that needs to be cheap, efficient and reliable. It's seriously de-tuned to be all that.
charliemike was saying that if the Gallardo's 500hp engine thats a 5.0L 10 cylinder got cut in half, it would be like the new Jetta's 5-cylinder 2.5L engine. But it's only 150hp instead of the assumed 250hp (half of 500hp). Makes perfect sense to me. In his statement he mentioned the 2.5L engine.
The answer though is that the Gallardo engine is an expensive, low volume, blueprinted, high fuel consumption, high performance engine.
The Jetta engine is high-volume that needs to be cheap, efficient and reliable. It's seriously de-tuned to be all that.
Though a 40% power loss (150hp/250hp = 60%) to make it high-volume seems excessive doesn't it?
11-22-2004, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cusdaddy
charliemike was saying that if the Gallardo's 500hp engine thats a 5.0L 10 cylinder got cut in half, it would be like the new Jetta's 5-cylinder 2.5L engine. But it's only 150hp instead of the assumed 250hp (half of 500hp). Makes perfect sense to me. In his statement he mentioned the 2.5L engine.
And besides, why do you feel it's your obligation to point out that I'm pointing out the obvious? I was merely trying to answer his inquiry.
12-19-2004, 03:25 PM
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Am I the only one who hates that HUMONGUOUS front grill??
And the body looks to tall. Too much space between the wheel arch and the top of the hood/trunk.
Otherwise it looks pretty good
And the body looks to tall. Too much space between the wheel arch and the top of the hood/trunk.
Otherwise it looks pretty good