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Old 06-19-2018, 10:00 PM
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^ Maybe, but it's CVT only in Touring trim.
Honda CVT is actually pretty good as far as CVT's go. It's far better than the crappy rubber band that Nissans have.
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^ Maybe, but it's CVT only in Touring trim.
Haven't tried Honda's CVT yet but what the hell Honda?! So only the LX and Sport have the 6MT available, and the EX, EX-L, and Sport Touring have CVT only... I hate when they do this. Why can't they build a Sport Touring and put a 6MT in it? Honda always limits packages/options to trim levels and that's very annoying.
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It's not Honda's fault the take rate is so incredibly small for manual transmissions. It's even less their fault that most people will not buy a loaded car with a manual.

Some of us would. But even so, it's not like we're buying a new car every two years. Between all the brands still offering a manual, there likely isn't enough of a take rate on them. I remember back in 2006, Honda released a 6MT version of the Accord Sedan. It was a top trim car with a 6MT... they had one sit in the showroom for over a year before it sold at my local dealership, at a heavily discounted price. They couldn't move it for the life of them... and this was 12 years ago.

Personally, I love the idea of a loaded civic with a manual... but I dunno if I'd actually buy one. Maybe. But then I'd also then put the CTR into heavy consideration also. And honestly, I prefer them to have a CTR in the first place, rather than just a loaded civic with the same 1.5T all other civics have, and just a 6MT thrown into the mix.
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Haven't tried Honda's CVT yet but what the hell Honda?! So only the LX and Sport have the 6MT available, and the EX, EX-L, and Sport Touring have CVT only... I hate when they do this. Why can't they build a Sport Touring and put a 6MT in it? Honda always limits packages/options to trim levels and that's very annoying.
The 2.0T models come with the 10 speed AT. Only the 1.5T models have the CVT.

Also, I agree. At this point people are buying the manual because they want a manual and not for cost purposes. Selling a fully decked out manual transmission would probably move more models than a stripped down example since most enthusiasts want things like leather and all the gadgets and gizmos.
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Honda (and most all other brands) seems to think otherwise.

I'm sure they know better than we do. At least I hope. Otherwise
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Or... I wonder if they're a bit behind on the times with the MT trend. Maybe the market has shifted to upstream manual cars and they haven't figured that out yet. Seems plausible enough to me.
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Or... I wonder if they're a bit behind on the times with the MT trend. Maybe the market has shifted to upstream manual cars and they haven't figured that out yet. Seems plausible enough to me.
Right. The fact that they are all strippers probably plays a huge role in the really low take rate since not many want that. I bet the take rate of a base model Accord LX 1.5T CVT is also really low. IMO, if I can't get leather, heated seats, and nav along with my MT that's reason enough for me to just get the (still very good) automatic instead.
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I agree. I've always been an options whore with every car I've owned. I want the top trim model for that particular year. And I want it in a manual. That's how my last ten personal cars all were.

But... I've never bought a car new. Hell, my Nismo was even just barely used when I bought it. Only once did I buy new and it wasn't even for me (for the SO). I'm not the kind of buyer car companies want


I wont even bat an eye at a base model car, just because it has a manual. Zero interest.

Hell, I don't even want a medium appointed car (Accord Sport) with a manual. It just leaves me thinking of what else I left on the table, just to get a manual. No thanks.

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https://www.carscoops.com/2018/09/vw...debut-detroit/

Like the Volkswagen Golf GTI, but wish it had a trunk in place of a liftgate at the back? That’d be the Jetta GLI. And the latest word has it that the new model will debut at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit come January.

The news comes from Autoblog.com.ar (via of Motor1), which spoke to José Carlos Pavone – head of design for Volkswagen do Brasil – at the launch of the new Jetta in South America, where it’s known as the Vento.

“I estimate that Vento GLI could be presented in January, during the Detroit Show,” Pavone told the Argentinian website. “The sports version was specifically designed for the tastes of the North American market,” and will have its own unique five-spoke alloys and a black roof.

More to the point, the new Jetta GLI is expected to borrow its 2.0-liter turbo four directly from the Golf GTI, where it produces 220 horsepower (164 kW) and 258 lb-ft (349 Nm) of torque. That’d bring the little sports sedan more in line with the hot hatch, instead of trailing behind it in power and performance as it has in the past.

That’d put it in a better position to take on the likes of the Honda Civic Si, Hyundai Elantra Sport, and Subaru WRX in the market for compact performance sedans, and give VW a more compelling offering for those who like their performance in a three-box shape. And if the report proves accurate, we can anticipate the new Jetta GLI’s debut in just a few months from now.
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https://www.motor1.com/news/267623/n...tta-gli-spied/

Caught in Argentina, this version has 230 hp and several features from the Golf GTI.

With the 2019 Volkswagen Jetta already among us, we are very much looking forward to the sportier GLI variant. Not that 147 horsepower (110 kilowatts) in the base model is boring, but there's always room for more power. The new generation of VW's much-loved sedan has not yet received a power upgrade, but that should change at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit come January. The Motor1.com team in Brazil found the new model in neighboring Argentina before VW wants you to see it.

These images published by our friends at Argentina Autoblog show the Volkswagen Jetta GLI in the airport covered by plastic sheets for protection. An astute reader named Luis. R. A. sent the photos to the site, getting up close to the new car to show us details of the interior and of the rear, where GLI logos can be easily seen on both the base of the steering wheel and the trunk lid – equal to that of Golf GTI.

Like all other Jetta versions, the GLI will be built in Mexico for all of North and South America. The best part is that it will feature the 2.0 TSI turbocharged engine from the Golf GTI, producing 230 hp (172 kW) which goes through a DSG dual clutch automatic gearbox, or a standard-issue six-speed manual. It will also be the only version of the sedan in this generation to have multilink suspension in the rear; the other Jetta configurations will continue to use a torsion beam setup.

In an interview with Argentina Autoblog, José Carlos Pavone, Volkswagen's chief of design for South America, said that the Jetta GLI will have a more aggressive and sportier design than the R-Line. This can be seen on five-spoke alloy wheels with red lines similar to those of the Golf GTI, not to mention the black roof. We can't wait for its arrival.



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Too bad the Jetta is so much more compared to the GTI.
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Too bad the Jetta is so much more compared to the GTI.
Yup. Other than the looks, this will be a solid car. I saw my first Jetta in the wild and it was really fugly. The back end is fine but it's definitely a butterface.
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IMO, the MK4 & MK6 were the better looking cars. Never cared much for the MK5, though the DSG GLI was fun to drive.
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https://www.autoblog.com/2018/12/10/...ago-auto-show/

In spring 2018, we learned that the new-and-improved Volkswagen Jetta GLI would be arriving within the year, and now we have confirmation that VW is sticking to its word. The GLI, the performance-oriented variant of the Jetta, will debut in late winter 2019 at the Chicago Auto Show.

When it wasn't talking about its huge onslaught of incoming electric vehicles, Volkswagen had its attention throughout 2018 pointed on the launch of the 2019 Jetta, the start of the seventh generation of the compact family sedan. After debuting the Mark 7 Jetta at the 2018 Detroit Auto Show, the nameplate has popped up throughout the year for a variety of reasons. VW made a special Jetta for the the European Experience car show, it brought out numerous custom Jettas for SEMA (the H&R Special Springs R-Line is pictured), and it built a Bonneville Jetta intended for a speed record. It's no coincidence all of these builds try to brush off the economical character of the four-door and lean into its sporting side.

The buildup culminates with the upcoming launch of the Jetta GLI, which a VW representative confirmed will debut at the Chicago Auto Show, Feb. 9-18. The unveiling will take place in the press days before the show goes live.

From previous reporting, we believe the GLI will be properly hotted-up. Based on past conversations, VW has indicated the GLI will adopt a multi-link independent rear suspension, leaving the torsion-beam setup for the lower-trim Jettas. Under the hood will be a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder mill that we expect will be the same tuned engine found in the GTI, which has 220 horsepower and 258 lb-ft of torque with premium fuel. That should link to either a six-speed manual transmission or the seven-speed DSG dual-clutch automatic.

If VW is truly bringing GTI characteristics to the Jetta, then the GLI should offer a much more fun experience than can be found in the current lineup. We'll let you know official numbers and information as it comes in the next two months.
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IMO, the MK4 & MK6 were the better looking cars. Never cared much for the MK5, though the DSG GLI was fun to drive.
An underrated thing about the MK4 is that you learn how to change fuses while you're driving, pretty cool.
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An underrated thing about the MK4 is that you learn how to change fuses while you're driving, pretty cool.
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Volkswagen has always closely associated the Jetta GLI sedan with the Golf GTI hot hatch, but the supposed siblings were most recently more like distant cousins, as the outgoing sixth-generation Jetta used completely different underpinnings than the MQB-based seventh-generation GTI. Now that the new 2019 Jetta has migrated to MQB, its GLI variant can once again legitimately claim to be a GTI with a trunk, and it has the standard and optional performance extras to back up that assertion.

For starters, the GLI has the same turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder as the GTI, with the same 228 horsepower and 258 lb-ft of torque—increases of 18 horsepower and 41 lb-ft over the last GLI. It mates with a standard six-speed manual or an optional seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission, with automatic cars adding stop-start functionality. A mechanical limited-slip differential is newly standard, and adaptive dampers are newly optional. The braking system is shared with the GTI, with 13.4-inch front rotors.

There are plenty of visual links between the GLI and GTI, too, as has long been the case. With a suspension setup that's lowered 0.6 inch over the standard Jetta, the GLI looks leaner and meaner than that mainstream sedan, and it has a black grille with red accent lines to mirror the GTI. Eighteen-inch wheels are standard, and red brake calipers peek out from underneath them. The front and rear bumpers look more aggressive, and dual exhaust tips round out the look. Inside, the black-and-red theme continues with red accent stitching for the black seats. A fair amount of stuff comes standard, including dual-zone automatic climate control, blind-spot monitoring, keyless entry and push-button start, and LED headlights and taillights. A panoramic sunroof, heated and cooled front seats, and a digital gauge cluster are optional.

A 35th Anniversary Edition will be part of the lineup to start; it has black wheels with a red stripe, a black roof, black mirror caps, and special badging and comes standard with the aforementioned adaptive dampers. Two lesser trim levels will exist, too—a base S trim and an Autobahn—and the GLI should start in the high-$20,000 range when it goes on sale this spring.
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Heated/cooled seats, digital dash, 7DSG...
Hopefully the MK8 GTI gets some of the updates too.
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Over in Europe, Volkswagen is about to expand its “R” portfolio to include the recently teased T-Roc R, which will serve as a crossover alternative to the Golf R. While the T-Roc is not available in the United States, Volkswagen of America could still diversify its R lineup by adding an entirely different R model. Speaking with Motor Trend at the ongoing 2019 Chicago Auto Show, VoA’s vice president of sales and marketing, Derrick Hatami, did not exclude the possibility of a Jetta R.

When asked by our colleagues at MT whether there’s going to be an R version of the latest Jetta, Hatami answer was: “Never say never.” He went on to mention VW has plans to make the Jetta a serious sports car offering in the same vein as the Golf GTI and R hot hatches even though that could cannibalize some of the sales. Looking at the bigger picture, Hatami argues performance Jetta versions could lure in more buyers compared to Golf GTI/R fans, so in the end, it would be a wise move for VoA to spice up its compact sedan.

It’s obviously too early to talk about any technical specifications, especially since the Jetta R hasn’t been green-lighted so far, but we can easily imagine the amped-up sedan with standard all-wheel drive and around 300 horsepower. It would be a significant step up from the recently launched 228-hp, front-wheel-drive Jetta GLI pictured here, which represents a mélange of the Golf GTI and R by getting the former’s engine and the latter’s brakes.

In related news, Hatami announced a new model is set to hit the U.S. market in the years to come. Arriving in 2021, the yet-unnamed compact crossover will slot underneath the Tiguan, although that’s all we know for the time being. The reveal confirms a report published late October 2018 about VoA’s intentions of introducing a new high-riding model to take on the Toyota C-HR, Jeep Renegade, and Honda HR-V, among others. The model in question won’t be an American equivalent of the T-Roc since the stylish crossover sold in Europe is too small for the U.S., according to VW.

The new compact crossover – which Hatami said won’t be based on the Tiguan –is expected to be built at the company’s plant in Mexico or in the U.S.
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Patiently waiting for a Golf R Sportwagen in the US. Zero interest in Jetta R.
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I think we're more likely to see a Jetta R before an R wagon, here in the US.
Even with wagons seeming to be gaining in popularity, still a tough call to introduce another (and a 3rd VW at that).
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It would be intentionally limited production just like the Golf R already is. The Golf SportWagen is already sold here, just toss in the hi po motor and call it good.
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The Volkswagen Golf GTI is a bona fide automotive legend. When it was introduced in 1976, it single-handedly created the "hot hatch" segment as we know it today. The GTI's four-door cousin, the Jetta GLI, first arrived in America in 1984, not long after we had received a GTI of our own.

Since then, the Jetta GLI has always stood in the shadow of the GTI, despite the fact that the base Jetta has outsold the Golf in America nearly every year since it was introduced. The focus has always remained on the GTI, due in part to the fact that hatchbacks are far more popular in Europe than sedans.

Now, Jetta fans finally have a chance to claim bragging rights over the GTI. According to Motor Trend, the new GLI, just released at the Chicago Auto Show last week, is set to be a substantially better value than the GTI.

In sharp contrast to the previous generation GLI, the new model will receive all of the upgrades found on its GTI sibling, making both models effectively equal. One benefit to the GLI is that the Jetta's sedan shape is slightly more slippery than the GTI's hatchback body style.

According to VW Product Developer Adam Reinhardt, the GLI's price may tip the scale for some people compared to the GTI. Despite being on the same platform, with the same running gea and similar equipment, the GLI might be a better deal.

While no pricing has been announced, Reinhardt teased us by saying "we actually come up with calculations that show that the GLI offers more equipment for comparable, if not even a little bit better money, than GTI."

For sedan fans, that's exciting news. The new GLI will offer a 228-horsepower turbo four-cylinder, a limited-slip differential, and Golf R front brakes – just like the GTI.
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Volkswagen Reveals 2019 Jetta GLI Pricing: It's Cheaper Than a Golf GTI!

It shares performance features with its hatchback cousin but costs less.

  • On sale this spring, the 2019 Jetta GLI will undercut the Golf GTI's price by $1600.
  • Performance equipment shared with the hatchback GTI includes brakes, powertrain, and limited-slip differential.
  • A special 35th Anniversary Edition model will come with an adaptive suspension.
Volkswagen's revived Jetta GLI sedan made a splash when it debuted at the Chicago auto show earlier this month, and now we know how much it will cost when it goes on sale this spring. Despite sharing performance parts with the famed Golf GTI, the base GLI will start $1600 cheaper than a similarly equipped GTI.

The Jetta GLI lineup will consist of three trims: S, 35th Anniversary, and Autobahn. All three are powered by a 228-hp turbocharged 2.0-liter inline-four engine that drives the front wheels through a six-speed manual or seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission. The GLI's front brakes and torque-sensing limited-slip differential are both shared with the GTI and the even hotter Golf R. Volkswagen says the midrange 35th Anniversary model also will come with an adaptive suspension.

The GLI S comes with a ton of features and promises to be the best value of the lineup. With a price of $26,890, it comes with:
  • 18-inch aluminum wheels
  • LED headlamps, taillamps, and daytime running lamps
  • Leather-wrapped sport steering wheel and shift knob
  • Cloth sport seats with heat for the front occupants
  • Ambient lighting with 10 color choices
  • Keyless entry with push-button start
  • Dual-zone automatic climate control
  • Rain-sensing windshield wipers
  • Auto-dimming rearview mirror
  • 6.5-inch touchscreen infotainment with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto capability
  • Forward-collision warning with automated emergency braking
  • Blind-spot monitoring with rear cross-traffic alert
Adding the seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission ups the price of the GLI S to $27,690. Next up is the GLI 35th Anniversary Edition, which costs $27,890 with the manual and $28,690 with the automatic and comes standard with:
  • 18-inch wheels finished in dark-gray paint with red accents
  • Black roof, mirror caps, and rear spoiler
  • Fender badges, doorsill protectors, seat tags, and floor mats with the 35th Anniversary Edition logo
  • Adaptive suspension
The top-of-the-line GLI Autobahn costs $30,090 with the manual and $30,890 with the automatic. It also comes with a ton of extras, including:
  • Panoramic sunroof
  • Reconfigurable digital gauge display
  • Nine-speaker Beats premium stereo system
  • Leather seats with heat and ventilation for the front occupants and power adjustments for the driver
  • Remote start
  • 8.0-inch touchscreen infotainment with SiriusXM satellite radio
The Jetta GLI should arrive at U.S. Volkswagen dealerships in just a few short months and, like all Volkswagens, will come with fully transferrable six-year/72,000-mile limited and powertrain warranties.
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A 2019 GTI Autobahn starts at $35.9k
Almost $5k cheaper for the GLI, and you get the 7DSG & digital dash.

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Digital dash in the VWs sucks compared to Audi's setup though.

Maybe they might have changed it for 2019? Still a pretty good deal, not sure what kind of suspension setup it might have but I'm guessing torsion beam rear to save money. I'm sure the GTI will still handle better and be funner to drive.
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A 2019 GTI Autobahn starts at $35.9k
Almost $5k cheaper for the GLI, and you get the 7DSG & digital dash.

I really wonder why...it doesn't make a ton of sense.

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Digital dash in the VWs sucks compared to Audi's setup though.

Maybe they might have changed it for 2019? Still a pretty good deal, not sure what kind of suspension setup it might have but I'm guessing torsion beam rear to save money. I'm sure the GTI will still handle better and be funner to drive.
meh, the VW one is pretty awesome. The Audi one has a few additional features (google maps for starters) but it's not considerably different.
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I'm sure the GTI will still be the more fun car, but it'd be a tough call, were I in the market.
Unless the MK8 gets a competitive price, with the added features from the GLI (doubtful on the $ drop).
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It won't drop $5k in price...

The question will be is if the hatchback is worth $5k. To most, myself included, the answer will be absolutely not.
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If the GLI is close to as good of a drive as the GTI (pending some MK8 reviews) I'd agree. I'll keep the 5k & take the sedan.
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