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gavriil 07-22-2005 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by Professor Gascan
There won't be an R34. VW does not have a 3.4L version of the VR6, only a 3.2L and a 3.6L. The MKV R32 will be shown in Frankfurt with a 3.2L FSI VR6 putting out 250hp with 4 motion. It will be a Europe only car. Somewhere further down the line, North America will get an R36 with the 3.6L FSI VR6 pushing out 300hp.

The above were the rumors I knew of until this article came along. We'll know in a month.

aaronnn 07-23-2005 12:09 AM

sucks we only had the R32 for one year. and most of the ones i saw were riced out. cant wait til these come out on production. i thought the commercial (from some foreign country) was pretty funny for the upcoming Golf.. but it did look good.

MQMH_03 07-25-2005 03:26 PM

Doesn't loook half bad...i actually like the current r32 in blue a lot!

MattT516 07-25-2005 04:28 PM

Absolutely hideous. The rear end makes it look like a Smart car.

Beltfed 08-09-2005 10:15 PM

New R32


"Volkswagen AG has released the first official information on the new Golf R32 for the German/European market. The immediate question that will come to North American enthusiasts minds is why another 3.2l VR6? The 3.2l VR6 in this latest generation R32 now has fuel stratisfied injection (FSI) technology and now outputs 250hp more efficiently and with better economy. 250hp is more than adequate for the hot hatch market competition in Europe. Here in North America though the R32 Golf would face competition in the form of the Subaru WRX STI and Mitsubishi Evolution which push the 300hp boundries in power.

For that reason the current rumors for the U.S. market indicate Volkswagen is instead working on a 300hp version of the new 3.6l VR6 FSI for an "R36" model. Right now the Golf R36 is currently being planned, but there are discussions about creating an R36 Jetta this time around. If you'd like to see a Jetta R36 in addition to a Golf R36 for the U.S. market be sure and chime in with your opinion at the end of this story in our forums."


http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/r32_01.jpg

http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/r32_02.jpg


Wolfsburg, 09 August 2005 - It was the most powerful Golf ever. The Golf R32 powered by a 177 kW (241 bhp) engine was first launched in August 2002. Not only was it one of the hottest cars on the road, it also sold like hot cakes: three times as many R32's were sold than originally planned. These are excellent prospects for its successor.

Now comes a new R32 based on the Golf V generation. This time it packs 184 kW (250 bhp) under the bonnet; the permanent 4MOTION four-wheel drive again promises excellent roadholding. The new model will see its world premiere at the 59th Frankfurt Motor Show (15 to 25 September). Presales in Germany start on 19 August. Market launch will be at the end of September. Prices for the new Golf R32 start at €32,200.

From the outside, the best Golf ever is not only recognisable by the R32 logo. Similar to its predecessor, the new top Golf has a design and equipment all of its own. The Golf R32 has a top speed of 250 km/h (155 mph) and comes either with a 6-speed manual gearbox or the optional dual clutch gearbox (DSG). Equipped with the DSG the "R32" is even faster: 6.2 instead 6.5 seconds from 0-100 km/h. Despite all this, the model is unusually easy to handle.

From the front, the new R32 generation is immediately recognisable by its unique aluminium-effect shield-shaped radiator grille. At the top of the grille are double aluminium cross struts. Under the number plate there is another central air scoop for the powerful 3.2-litre V6 engine. Two more large openings on each side of the shield-shaped radiator grille are intended for fresh air supply. As opposed to all other Golfs, there are air ducts at the bottom and on either side of the fully painted front bumper. The lines of the air duct continue into the side skirt all the way along to the rear bumper.

The rear of the Golf R32 is also designed as a fully painted bumper. Only the middle section in the shape of a diffuser is in black. The two round tailpipes made of polished stainless steel are placed centrally next to each other and are integrated prominently in the rear bumper. A glance at the outline of the Golf R32 shows the 18-inch light-alloy wheels (type "Zolder“). They are fitted with 20 spokes and continue the design theme of the first R32 wheel. The spokes still allow glimpses of what lies behind them: brake calipers painted blue. They come with 345 mm (13.6 inch) (diameter) discs at the front and 310 mm (12.2 inch) at the rear.

The 225/40 tyres bear the Y-pattern tread for high-speed tyres up to 300 km/h. A large-size rear spoiler makes sure that the rear wheels stay firmly on the road. The fact that the wheel-tyre combination sits snugly in the wheel housings is partly due to the 18-inch wheel size but also to the specially tuned sports running gear that is lower by 20 millimetres (.78 inch).

The sporty concept of the Golf R32 is a theme that permeates the entire vehicle. Take the interior, for example. There are distinctive instruments, sports seats, pedals in aluminium look and special applications that emphasise the sporty nature of the Golf. The sports steering wheel, with perforated leather along the grip area, and the R32 gear shift knob lie firmly in the hand.

As opposed to the more purist style of the Golf GTI, the R32 top model boasts a dazzling array of standard equipment at no extra price, such as automatic air conditioning (Climatronic), the RCD 300 audio system with ten loudspeakers, anti-theft alarm system plus, multifunction display, automatic anti-dazzle interior mirror, rain sensor, tyre pressure monitor and the complete safety programme comprising six airbags, ESP and brake assistant. The standard bi-xenon headlights light up the night like day.

The Golf range: The Golf tops the new registration statistics in Europe. Not only that: no other car in this segment offers so many different engines. With the introduction of the Golf R32 the model range now stretches from 55 kW (75 bhp) to 184 kW (250 bhp). Including the R32-V6, there are ten engines on offer – six petrol and four diesel. This year two more interesting engines will be added to the Golf range. The Golf remains an exciting car to watch.
http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/r32_03.jpg

http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/r32_04.jpg


Source: VWVortex.

Sly Raskal 08-09-2005 11:00 PM

:thumbsup: :drool:

goldmemberer 08-10-2005 12:55 AM

Bleh... the old one looked far more aggressive. This one looks far too soft for the R32 badge. And I don't see how a 9 hp increase over these HP-war-filled 5 years is acceptable. I know it'll handle like a dream and the DSG gearbox always makes me drool, but still. 250hp won't cut it in NA and VW knows it. Hopefully they'll make our version more aggressive lookin, too.

http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/r32_01.jpg http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/05/golf02r32_03.jpg

TL CHROMETIDE 08-10-2005 03:32 AM

^^^:agree:^^^

New grill looks better on an SUV. Old face looks a lot better.

cusdaddy 08-10-2005 09:21 PM

meh. I like the old one better

zeroday 08-10-2005 09:32 PM

i want those seats

Dan Martin 08-10-2005 10:05 PM

Looks cool but 32,000 euros???? Lordy that's a lot-o-cash. :eek:

$40,000 USD / $48,000 CDN is asking a little too much IMO. I guess the 300hp R36 would probably end up in the low to mid 50's which is completely insane.

Beltfed 08-10-2005 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Looks cool but 32,000 euros???? Lordy that's a lot-o-cash. :eek:

$40,000 USD / $48,000 CDN is asking a little too much IMO. I guess the 300hp R36 would probably end up in the low to mid 50's which is completely insane.

You can't go by that, an R36 in the U.S shouldn't be any more than $33k-$34k.

Don't count out an R36 Jetta yet either.

gavriil 08-11-2005 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Dan Martin
Looks cool but 32,000 euros???? Lordy that's a lot-o-cash. :eek:

$40,000 USD / $48,000 CDN is asking a little too much IMO. I guess the 300hp R36 would probably end up in the low to mid 50's which is completely insane.


Prices in Europe do not reflect those in the USA. Cars are a lot cheaper here.

Dan Martin 08-11-2005 12:58 PM

What does the current R32 go for on this side of the pond?

Crazy Bimmer 08-11-2005 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Dan Martin
What does the current R32 go for on this side of the pond?



Around 30k.

Dan Martin 08-11-2005 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Around 30k.

That's better but still pretty expensive for a golf.

goldmemberer 08-11-2005 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by Dan Martin
That's better but still pretty expensive for a golf.

Eh. I think good power (probably ~300hp for the R36 since the new VW V6 already develops 280hp in the Passat) + VW's bulletproof AWD + excellent handling and road manners + reasonable amount of comfort (far more than the STi, Evo) + the awesome DSG gearbox = worth 30k. Not sure how anyone can argue with that. With 250hp, it's still a fast car but it won't be able to compete with the new gen 320hp STis and Evos for the same money and practicality.

TranceFusion 08-18-2005 02:37 AM

nice seats and exhausts

gavriil 08-18-2005 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by goldmemberer
Bleh... the old one looked far more aggressive. This one looks far too soft for the R32 badge. And I don't see how a 9 hp increase over these HP-war-filled 5 years is acceptable. I know it'll handle like a dream and the DSG gearbox always makes me drool, but still. 250hp won't cut it in NA and VW knows it. Hopefully they'll make our version more aggressive lookin, too.

There is a bigger engine coming. There is info in this thread about it.

gavriil 08-19-2005 01:56 PM

Golf GT - 168HP from 1.4L
 
Golf charges to world-first - - Source: AUtoexpress


How do you get 168bhp from a 1.4-litre car? Simple: create what's believed to be the world's first turbocharged supercharger. VW has done exactly that on an FSI petrol engine which debuts next year in the Golf GT.

...

The GT's pioneering 'super-turbo' technology will deliver 240Nm of torque - that's only 40Nm less than the GTI - and 0-60mph in eight seconds. Mated to a six-speed manual or DSG auto box, the car will have lowered suspension, a GTI-style front grille, twin exhausts and unique alloys.
Meanwhile, the facelifted Beetle is due in September. Two higher-spec Luna versions replace the base 1.4 and 1.6-litre cars, starting at £11,245.


gavriil 08-19-2005 01:57 PM

I am very curious to see how exactly this engine works.

srika 08-19-2005 03:18 PM

wow.... I am like "super" impressed!!!! :) 168HP from 1.4L... nice. that must have set a new record. Wait, isn't the torque number even more impressive? Am I reading correct? 258 ft-lbs??? is that right??? :eek:

ps. I have something for the Audi buyers....












:tomato:

gavriil 08-19-2005 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by srika
wow.... I am like "super" impressed!!!! :) 168HP from 1.4L... nice. that must have set a new record. Wait, isn't the torque number even more impressive? Am I reading correct? 258 ft-lbs??? is that right??? :eek:

240 Nm = 177 lb-ft

goldmemberer 08-20-2005 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by gavriil
240 Nm = 177 lb-ft

Torque and diesels go hand in hand, no big deal there. If this thing redlines past 6000RPM then I will be impressed. You'd think it was easy to do with such a small displacement engine but you never know with diesels.

gavriil 08-20-2005 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by goldmemberer
Torque and diesels go hand in hand, no big deal there. If this thing redlines past 6000RPM then I will be impressed. You'd think it was easy to do with such a small displacement engine but you never know with diesels.

This is no diesel engine. Petrol = gasoline.

goldmemberer 08-20-2005 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by gavriil
This is no diesel engine. Petrol = gasoline.

I read petrol and thought it was for the other engines... I just assumed this engine was a diesel, primarily cause I didn't think it was possible to make these kinds of numbers from a gasoline engine! Holy shit.

Also, I've heard of a "supercharged turbocharger" type deal on a diesel before, never on a gasoline engine.

charliemike 08-21-2005 08:56 PM

There is no way in hell I would pay $33k for a 250hp Golf R32. Not when a GTI with 200hp is going to be $10k less.

Beltfed 08-21-2005 11:23 PM


Originally Posted by charliemike
There is no way in hell I would pay $33k for a 250hp Golf R32. Not when a GTI with 200hp is going to be $10k less.

Chances are the R36 will be coming to the U.S. and will make 300hp.

TLover 08-22-2005 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by Beltfed
Chances are the R36 will be coming to the U.S. and will make 300hp.

Yeah, VW has to keep up with the EVO and WRX.

charliemike 08-22-2005 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Beltfed
Chances are the R36 will be coming to the U.S. and will make 300hp.

If that is the case, is it going to supplant the R32? Doesn't look like it from that article. Looks like it will be a model trim above the R32 ... Which means it's a $35k+ GTI ... *buh-buh-blink*

gavriil 08-23-2005 12:15 PM

New VW engine packs a One-Two Punch; 2006 Golf gets SuperTurbo system - - Source: Autoweek


Volkswagen will reach into the past for a combined supercharger-turbocharger system to boost power and fuel economy in its small gasoline engines.

The system, dubbed SuperTurbo Compounding by supercharger supplier Eaton, eliminates turbo lag while boosting overall power and fuel economy by 15 to 20 percent. Eaton, the apparent supplier of the supercharger for the engine, says a car fitted with the system will likely be shown at the upcoming Frankfurt show.

Engineers have combined superchargers and turbochargers in the past, most notably in World War II-era aircraft to avoid engine power losses at higher altitudes. Automotive applications have been limited, but include an Abarth-developed system used on the 1985 Lancia Delta S4 rally car.

Today’s computers make the complex induction system seamless in the new application, which uses a mechanical supercharger operating at low engine speeds to increase low-end torque, and a turbocharger engaging at middling revs to provide added muscle up high. Once the turbo reaches sufficient speed to provide boost, a clutch disengages the supercharger and an induction valve closes, bypassing the supercharger.

VW’s plans call for widespread use of the system, starting with a 1.4-liter direct-injection engine that is expected to debut in the 2006 Golf before heading into other VW models.

Two different versions of the 1.4-liter engine are planned. In standard guise the four-valve-per-cylinder unit kicks out 140 hp and 184 lb-ft of torque, with a more performance-oriented variant producing 170 hp and 199 lb-ft. By comparison, VW’s existing 2.0-liter four-cylinder delivers 150 hp and 148 lb-ft.

Also under way at VW are more powerful 1.6-liter and 2.0-liter versions of the supercharged/turbocharged engine with a rumored 195 hp and 240 hp, respectively.

Eaton officials said the system will initially appear on cars in Europe where it is expected to compete with turbodiesel engines. The system also could be fitted to diesels, but its future in the North American market could depend on fuel prices and demands for bigger engines.

“In the U.S., displacement is still king,” said one Eaton exec.


gavriil 08-23-2005 12:16 PM


Also under way at VW are more powerful 1.6-liter and 2.0-liter versions of the supercharged/turbocharged engine with a rumored 195 hp and 240 hp, respectively.
Interesting...

gavriil 08-23-2005 12:20 PM


“In the U.S., displacement is still king,” said one Eaton exec.
I disagree. If this thing has very little lag and it is also forgiving as far as gas consumption, a 2.4L 4cyl (~290HP) application or even a 3.0L V6 (~360HP) application would not be out of the question here.

charliemike 08-23-2005 04:08 PM

OMG ... Can you imagine the repair bill on that?

"I'm sorry. That's not covered under warranty. It will be 11ty6 gajillion dollars to fix. Thankyoucomeagainkthxbi."

Moog-Type-S 08-23-2005 04:13 PM

SuperTurbo Compounding :thumbsup:

gavriil 08-23-2005 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by charliemike
OMG ... Can you imagine the repair bill on that?

"I'm sorry. That's not covered under warranty. It will be 11ty6 gajillion dollars to fix. Thankyoucomeagainkthxbi."


Yeah but I am sure it wont break often. These things are pretty reliable nowadays.

heyitsme 08-23-2005 07:56 PM

Seems pretty logical. Was looking at the srt4 vs cobalt ss comparo and it was the ss off the line up to 60 where both were even and then the srt walked away, would be nice to combine the best of both worlds.

charliemike 08-25-2005 08:09 PM

There is no reason other than fitment why the R32 is not an R36 with 280hp. They already have the engine in production in the B6 Passat.

charliemike 08-27-2005 09:35 AM

http://www.vwvortex.com/images/5GENGTI_VWV_1024_1.jpg

Pretty badass picture

gavriil 09-20-2005 12:34 PM

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