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Also, wtf... this thing is going to be super expensive. I know the last gen Supra, when loaded, was very pricey also.... but let's be honest, that was the reason Toyota killed it off... too pricey, not enough sales, kill it!
A post on the SupraMkV forum reveals a list of BMW internal codes that might help shed light on Toyota’s next Supra. According to the list, the U.S. market will get two different versions of the BMW-developed powertrains: code names DB23 and a DB43 of the Toyota-spec J29 chassis.
The DB23 will be related to the Z5 30i, which likely means a turbocharged I4 under the hood. The DB43 will, of course, be a turbocharged I6 variant based on the BMW Z5 40i. Want to row your own gears? According to this list, you’ll need to track down a vintage Supra -- the models listed here will be automatic only. In Europe, there will be manually shifted versions of the Z4’s replacement, but none of those will bear a Toyota badge.There isn’t a mention of an all-wheel-drive system or a hybrid driveline in this code sheet, so there's still hope for more powerful and stick-shift versions of the Supra to come later.
There’s still no word on when the Supra will see auto show lights, but we imagine we’ll see something official about the car by the end of next year.
The next-generation Toyota Supra is coming, and we’ve seen the rough shape in spy footage, but no one is exactly sure what it’ll look like on an auto show floor. Of course, digital renderings are always a guessing game, but the folks at the SupraMKV forum have been honing their renderings since the next-gen Supra was announced. This latest rendering shows a different grille and a slightly revised body shape -- and it looks absolutely sharp.
Wow man I do wonder if it will ever come out haha. I think I have been hearing the Supra replacement since I was in high school...and that was well over a decade ago!
Toyota hasn't even promised that it would be called Supra yet, but if it isn't, that will be one big missed opportunity.
Toyota It's been a long time since the speculation began, but it appears Toyota is finally ready to acknowledge that the Supra is coming back.
Toyota put out a quick press release late in the day on Monday with the headline, "The Legend Returns." That's promising, until you see the word "concept" shortly after that. But fear not, the release brings it all the way back around when it says this concept "signals Toyota's commitment to bring back to the market its most iconic sports car."
Toyota's clearly talking about the Supra -- sorry, Celica fans, although you can rest comfortably knowing the Supra name was 1st attached to a Celica.
All we know right now comes from this teaser, which ain't much. It'll have a giant wing and a roof that looks suitable for helmets thanks to its double-bubble-like shape, but that makes sense, because Toyota bills this as a "modern racing concept." And it's important to note that this is just a concept, and a motorsport-themed one at that -- don't expect it to be a faithful preview of the production Supra, if Toyota's even going to call it that, which it hasn't promised to. So, I guess Celica fans can still hold out some hope, albeit not much.
No matter what, we'll know more when Toyota pulls back the curtain at the Geneva Motor Show -- more specifically, Mar. 6 at 3:45 a.m. Eastern. Better set your alarms now.
Excellent news, Internet. At next month’s Geneva Motor Show Toyota will reveal a “modern racing concept” that signals its “commitment to bringing its most iconic sports car back to the market”. So in a roundabout kind of way, this gloomy, tightly-cropped teaser image is probably our best look yet at the new Supra. Or at least, a lightly concept-ified version, with a MASSIVE spoiler.
What do we know about the new Supra… Well, Toyota remains tight-lipped on the subject. But we know it’s been co-developed with the next BMW Z4 (as previewed at Pebble Beach last year) and that the pair will share hybrid technology. Rumour has it that alongside conventional powertrains, both BMW and Toyota will deploy petrol-electric versions using BMW’s four-cylinder turbocharged petrol engine with electric motors on the front axle fed by supercapacitors.
We know too the Supra will wear ‘Gazoo’ badges, just like the impressive Yaris GRMN. It’s Toyota’s performance sub-brand, which after making its name in Japan is going global. Looking forward to seeing, erm, something at Geneva? We are.
More news on the upcoming, fifth-gen Supra from Geneva...
The new Toyota Supra is coming – it’ll be unveiled at the Detroit Show in January 2019. Meanwhile we have this track-look concept. Its body panels are production reality. Just take off the rear wing, flicks, splitter and sports-hall-sized diffuser.
The Supra is a joint project with BMW, but, “they are not the same kind of car,” the Supra’s project chief Tetsuya Tada tells Top Gear. “We will continue the heritage of the Supra, a pure sports car. There are fewer common elements than you would imagine. It’s not like the GT86 and Subaru.”
And Tada would know. He led the GT86 project too, and he ensured that was a pure sports car. Remember, the new Z4 will be a gentler soft-top. “The exterior and interior design [of the Supra] is Toyota.” In other words, very different from the BMW, which we’ve also seen in concept form.
Tada calls the Supra the GT86’s “elder brother”. But it isn’t bigger than the GT86, as it’s a pure two-seater.
What about the mechanicals? “I spoke to Supra fans. The six-cylinder engine, turbos, and front-engine-rear-drive layout are vital.” BMW does those things doesn’t it? “Yes, so we collaborated.”
Which means, and Tada confirms this, the Supra won’t use the Lexus V8. A BMW six then? “Few car companies have straight-six engines,” he replies. “Toyota did but it doesn’t any longer.” Toyota’s European R&D head Gerald Killmans later confirms that it’s a recalibrated version of the BMW engine. We suspect the M3’s twin-turbo. That means 450bhp ballpark.
What about a hybrid? “We are looking at it, but it’s not decided,” says Tada. Given Toyota makes a hybrid Le Mans car, that consideration must be pretty serious.
Suspension, Killmans says, is also similar in basic principles to the BMW system, but with a different tune. The Supra will also be built at a BMW factory, Tada acknowledges.
It will carry GRMN badging beneath its Toyota logos. That’s Gazoo Racing Masters of the Nurburgring. GR is Toyota’s new specialist sporting division. Tada says there will be GRMN versions of lots of Toyotas, starting with the lairy little Yaris GRMN.
The next-generation Toyota Supra is coming, and we’ve seen the rough shape in spy footage, but no one is exactly sure what it’ll look like on an auto show floor. Of course, digital renderings are always a guessing game, but the folks at the SupraMKV forum have been honing their renderings since the next-gen Supra was announced. This latest rendering shows a different grille and a slightly revised body shape -- and it looks absolutely sharp.
Can you image if they butchered this thing completely? The endless backlash would be internet gold
I've already lost interest in it. The pics of the test vehicle look nowhere as nice as the FT-1. It's lost all its sexiness, sportiness, and good lines.
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