Toyota: Sienna News
07-22-2005, 09:41 AM
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Toyota: Sienna News
Car News briefs - - Source: Autoweek
Toyota recalling Siennas
Toyota announced this week that it is recalling more than 345,000 Sienna minivans to fix seat belts that could fail during a crash. Siennas sold in the U.S. from the 2004-2005 model years are affected, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced.
--REUTERS CONTRIBUTED
Toyota announced this week that it is recalling more than 345,000 Sienna minivans to fix seat belts that could fail during a crash. Siennas sold in the U.S. from the 2004-2005 model years are affected, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced.
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07-30-2005, 12:15 PM
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Toyota boosts sticker prices on'06 models - - By Greg Migliore - - Source: Automotive News
DETROIT -- Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. Inc. raised the sticker prices on nine 2006 Toyota Division models. The price increases range from $150 to $385.
The seven-passenger Sienna minivan begins at $24,190 for the CE model. The high-end XLE all-wheel-drive model begins at $38,645. The XLE trim levels had the highest increase, rising $385.
The seven-passenger Sienna minivan begins at $24,190 for the CE model. The high-end XLE all-wheel-drive model begins at $38,645. The XLE trim levels had the highest increase, rising $385.
08-18-2005, 10:25 PM
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Of course, everything with Toyota is a friggin option on an option package. I hate that. If I order the XLE they better already include some of those features...besides, the Odyssey looks much more agressive.
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08-18-2005, 10:35 PM
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woooo!!
what's with all these "to give sporty impression" changes? 
... it's a frigging family minivan! I would prefer safety features & comfort for the me & teh kids, not sportiness!
... it's a frigging family minivan! I would prefer safety features & comfort for the me & teh kids, not sportiness!
08-19-2005, 12:03 AM
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Much better front end than the current model.
Honda still has the superior looking mini-van.
Honda still has the superior looking mini-van.
08-19-2005, 12:40 AM
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Ody Touring with Navi & dvd = best out there PERIOD
08-19-2005, 06:38 AM
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Ah for a minivan it is pretty damn good, it and the honda are neck and neck right now 
But damn 38k base price for the top end mondel
Scary how expensive minivans are now.
But damn 38k base price for the top end mondel
Scary how expensive minivans are now.
08-19-2005, 12:16 PM
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Looks a lot better, but not as clean as the Odyssey. I just hate that V-hump on the hood.
But I actually think the Sienna trumps the Odyssey in the details. The Sienna has rear sunshades for both the second as well as the third rows - the Odyssey only has them for the second row. The brake light in the Sienna is LED - the Odyssey uses a conventional bulb and being behind one the other day I can say it's not as bright as it should be and lights up noticeably slower than LED ones.
But I actually think the Sienna trumps the Odyssey in the details. The Sienna has rear sunshades for both the second as well as the third rows - the Odyssey only has them for the second row. The brake light in the Sienna is LED - the Odyssey uses a conventional bulb and being behind one the other day I can say it's not as bright as it should be and lights up noticeably slower than LED ones.
08-19-2005, 01:19 PM
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It is a minivan so who cares what it really looks like. But comparing the Odyssey and the Sienna is difficult. There are some options on the Sienna that are not available in the Odyssey. Plus, when you do get comparable models you will find that the sale price of the Sienna is much less than the Odyssey; by thousands.
But in the end it is a child hauler, nothing more and so style goes out the window. It is all about convienence and safety.
And yes, I do own a Sienna XLE Limited. The only options I do not have are AWD and Nav. A comparable Odyssey at the time ended up being $7k more when factoring in the discount I got on the Toyota. I wanted the Odyssey to stay in the Honda family as I am not a Toyota fan. But $7k difference on a minivan was hard to pass up. Plus, I have HIDs and the Odyssey does not.
But in the end it is a child hauler, nothing more and so style goes out the window. It is all about convienence and safety.
And yes, I do own a Sienna XLE Limited. The only options I do not have are AWD and Nav. A comparable Odyssey at the time ended up being $7k more when factoring in the discount I got on the Toyota. I wanted the Odyssey to stay in the Honda family as I am not a Toyota fan. But $7k difference on a minivan was hard to pass up. Plus, I have HIDs and the Odyssey does not.
08-19-2005, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The Sarlacc
Ody Touring with Navi & dvd = best out there PERIOD
..and the Ody EX-L s/Navi/RES is the way I would go. But I will say that having driven the 05 Sienna XLE, that its fit and finish is almost identical to that of the Lexus RX330. (read: Big Plus) But I have to say
to youngTL. The a la carte system of Toyota is insane, with about 1,000 different option packages. To wit a loaded Sienna winds up being several thousand $$$ over the price of an Ody T w/Navi/RES.
08-19-2005, 05:49 PM
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..and the Ody EX-L s/Navi/RES is the way I would go. But I will say that having driven the 05 Sienna XLE, that its fit and finish is almost identical to that of the Lexus RX330. (read: Big Plus) But I have to say
to youngTL. The a la carte system of Toyota is insane, with about 1,000 different option packages. To wit a loaded Sienna winds up being several thousand $$$ over the price of an Ody T w/Navi/RES.The top end 2006 sienna limited with all options (HT) lists for $40,210. The top of line touring lists for $39345. The price difference is $865.
But Sienna comes way more feature for $865 difference. HID, 3rd row sun shade, laser cruise control, one extra power outlet, power folding 3rd row seat, bluetooth. Other than 3rd row sunshade which is dealer installed on the Odyssey touring, all of them are MIA on the touring.
Odyssey has no advantage over sienna in terms of interior design/material, feature, quality, fit/finish, and price. Especially at top end model.
Oddyssey is over priced on the top end. Simple as that.
08-19-2005, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by scalbert
But in the end it is a child hauler, nothing more and so style goes out the window. It is all about convienence and safety.
And I know Honda dealers love to not deal with this minivan which makes the Toyota with their incentives and lower starting price more attractive. In the end if I was just starting out with a family, I'd definately go with the mazda 5( http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/Mazda5/Photos.htm ), older kids probably the Toyota due to it being less of a hasle to buy unless cash flow was excessive and then I'd just get whatever, odyssey.
08-19-2005, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
To wit a loaded Sienna winds up being several thousand $$$ over the price of an Ody T w/Navi/RES.
We have some friends that purchased the Odyssey Touring this spring and was fully loaded. They paid MSRP due to no haggling allowed by the delaer and the end price was about $42k. Our Sienna, which doesn't have Nav but does have HIDs and adaptive cruise, etc. cost us $33k. That is a significant difference for the minimal difference in amenities.
Plus, and as mentioned, the Sienna really is the Lexus of minivans. We went from a BMW to a Lexus RX300 to the Sienna and found the materials and fit-n-finish to be on par with premium brands.
08-20-2005, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by scalbert
I disagree. Option for option, when comparable, the Sienna is close. But when you factor discount, the Sienna is much less. Damn them Honda dealers for not moving on the price.
We have some friends that purchased the Odyssey Touring this spring and was fully loaded. They paid MSRP due to no haggling allowed by the delaer and the end price was about $42k. Our Sienna, which doesn't have Nav but does have HIDs and adaptive cruise, etc. cost us $33k. That is a significant difference for the minimal difference in amenities.
Plus, and as mentioned, the Sienna really is the Lexus of minivans. We went from a BMW to a Lexus RX300 to the Sienna and found the materials and fit-n-finish to be on par with premium brands.
We have some friends that purchased the Odyssey Touring this spring and was fully loaded. They paid MSRP due to no haggling allowed by the delaer and the end price was about $42k. Our Sienna, which doesn't have Nav but does have HIDs and adaptive cruise, etc. cost us $33k. That is a significant difference for the minimal difference in amenities.
Plus, and as mentioned, the Sienna really is the Lexus of minivans. We went from a BMW to a Lexus RX300 to the Sienna and found the materials and fit-n-finish to be on par with premium brands.
Incidentally, I was also quoted $31k for the EX-L w/Nav/RES by Open Road Honda. Seems like you and chiawei will need to venture into the Garden State if you want a good deal on the Ody 'cause y'aint gettin' it where ya at.
08-20-2005, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Remind me not to buy an Ody in Woodstock, Georgia (or Fremont, Ca) because, I was quoted a price of $35k from my local Honda Dealer via Instaquote for a Touring Navi/RES. At the time just prior to the 3G Ody's debut, the Sienna XLE Limited on the lot of DCH Toyota (South Brunswick NJ) MSRP'd @ $43,XXX w/ Navi and AWD. And it was Toyota that wasnt going to budge on price. (wife as witness)
Incidentally, I was also quoted $31k for the EX-L w/Nav/RES by Open Road Honda. Seems like you and chiawei will need to venture into the Garden State if you want a good deal on the Ody 'cause y'aint gettin' it where ya at.
Incidentally, I was also quoted $31k for the EX-L w/Nav/RES by Open Road Honda. Seems like you and chiawei will need to venture into the Garden State if you want a good deal on the Ody 'cause y'aint gettin' it where ya at.
Different markets can be like that.
This area is Odyssey heaven and I guess Toyota wants to cut into that. But the Sienna you looked at was AWD which isn't available on the Odyssey.
12-02-2009, 11:07 PM
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New 2011 Toyota Sienna
Just saw this on Car and Driver and Edmunds.
I think it looks a lot better than the current Sienna. The regular model is OK (I don't like the grille), but SE trim seems quite nice. Who knows, the SE may actually drive like a Honda?
I think it looks a lot better than the current Sienna. The regular model is OK (I don't like the grille), but SE trim seems quite nice. Who knows, the SE may actually drive like a Honda?
12-03-2009, 08:23 AM
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Well the thread was about 2005. I guess this is the way this site works. Different than other auto forums. A bit weird.
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12-03-2009, 10:15 AM
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The sizzle in the Steak
Better than the current...but otherwise it's meh.
12-03-2009, 03:10 PM
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Funny that I have no recollection of that back-and-forth with Scalbert some four years ago.
But,
. The wife and I have fallen out of the minivan spell, especially since getting the MDX. I can't help but look at that pic and have a 'lipstick on a pig' perspective on it.
But,
. The wife and I have fallen out of the minivan spell, especially since getting the MDX. I can't help but look at that pic and have a 'lipstick on a pig' perspective on it.
12-03-2009, 03:32 PM
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A friend of our bought a Sienna this year. compared to all the CUVs out there, minivan just has so much more room.
Wonder what Honda plans with the new Odyssey.
Wonder what Honda plans with the new Odyssey.
12-03-2009, 05:54 PM
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I see floor mats 
12-03-2009, 06:44 PM
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Interior looks more truck like than Minivan kind ... if this is what production Sienna is going to be then Odyssey should have no competition. Exterior seems like an improvement but nothing too fancy. Seems like a new SE trim is debuting for Sienna to compete with the Odyssey driving experience. Other than that any other info on power plant updates?
12-03-2009, 06:58 PM
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Interior looks more truck like than Minivan kind ... if this is what production Sienna is going to be then Odyssey should have no competition. Exterior seems like an improvement but nothing too fancy. Seems like a new SE trim is debuting for Sienna to compete with the Odyssey driving experience. Other than that any other info on power plant updates?
12-03-2009, 07:08 PM
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