Toyota: Camry News
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Wow.
I didn't know a Toyota could look so good. Although I think the back looks even more like an ES330 now, the car as a whole is beautiful.
I'm actually looking forward to it now
I didn't know a Toyota could look so good. Although I think the back looks even more like an ES330 now, the car as a whole is beautiful.
I'm actually looking forward to it now
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is it me or are cars just getting more ugly evry year.
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Originally Posted by MSZ
WOW.
I hope the next gen Accord looks nearly as good...
I hope the next gen Accord looks nearly as good...
I guess both Honda and Toyota got the word that bland and boring is not good enough anymore.
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Logical evolution. The front looks just like the Avalon's baby brother, and the Corolla's older brother. The rear looks like it's been cribbed from the ES330. Looks nicer than what we have now.
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arent they making it look WAY too sporty than it should? i mean, come on, it's a middle-class, 4-door family sedan with kids in the backseat that i see no less than 100 around on any given day...
props on the design, but damn, they are implementing the design on the wrong car imo.
props on the design, but damn, they are implementing the design on the wrong car imo.
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Originally Posted by Time For Sleeep
For it's projected buyers though... wouldn't FWD be a better choice for Camry's to be @?
I'm just afraid what's going to happen on the roads with hundreds of thousand of soccer moms fishtailing, unless it includes a really aggressive VDC or other stability program. Most people don't know which wheels are driving thier accords and camries (I know one guy who swore his accord was rwd), and most don't care...until they start getting stuck in snow and fishtailing.
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Originally Posted by mrdeeno
I think toyota knows that even as mediocre as the accord looks, it was always a sportier alternative to the camry so this is its way of making a statemnet.
I'm just afraid what's going to happen on the roads with hundreds of thousand of soccer moms fishtailing, unless it includes a really aggressive VDC or other stability program. Most people don't know which wheels are driving thier accords and camries (I know one guy who swore his accord was rwd), and most don't care...until they start getting stuck in snow and fishtailing.
I'm just afraid what's going to happen on the roads with hundreds of thousand of soccer moms fishtailing, unless it includes a really aggressive VDC or other stability program. Most people don't know which wheels are driving thier accords and camries (I know one guy who swore his accord was rwd), and most don't care...until they start getting stuck in snow and fishtailing.
Think its very unlikely the camry will be rwd. If that was there plan I think the avalon would have been rwd also. This camry should be interesting to see considering it will most likely be getting that new 3.5 engine.
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Originally Posted by heyitsme
Think its very unlikely the camry will be rwd. If that was there plan I think the avalon would have been rwd also. This camry should be interesting to see considering it will most likely be getting that new 3.5 engine.
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Originally Posted by youngTL
Are they gonna pull a Nissan and use that 3.5L in every damn car?
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Originally Posted by youngTL
Are they gonna pull a Nissan and use that 3.5L in every damn car?
Probably. IT's so much cheaper. I am guessing direct injection will be widely used but only for premium cars.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
Think about that. 260HP from a Camry. Not many years ago, Z28 Camaros were pulling 275HP. I am talking about 1996-97, etc.
93 was actually when the new Camaro with 275 came out.
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Originally Posted by dom
93 was actually when the new Camaro with 275 came out.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
I dont doubt that but wasnt it selling with 275 still in 96-97? I am pretty sure it did cos that's when I bought my 210HP Eagle Talon TSi AWD and remember comparing.
Misunderstood your post. Yes, I think 98 was when they got the power boost to 285 and then 300 for the SS.
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Originally Posted by titan
What's wrong with that? The VQ is one of the best V6s in the world. And that's from winning Ward's 10 best engines year after year. Toyoat's new 3.5L is a good fit for the Avalon; a detuned, 260HP or so version would be a welcome change in the otherwise unexciting Camry.
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Would they dare switch the North American Camry from FWD to RWD? Wouldn't people freak out?
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Originally Posted by youngTL
What's wrong with that? In and of itself, it's not a problem. But if they have a problem with a redesign of it, it affects more cars. And it's just boring. It doesn't give the cars much distinction. The Maxima drives almost the same as the Altima. Yes the VQ35DE is a good engine, but it seems like it's their ONLY good engine because they only put the research into that. The Altima 4 cylinder (the 2.5S) is a rough, unrefined engine compared to similiar 4 cylinders from competitors.
I guess you dont' know about or driven all of their offerings as Nissan has a lot more than the 3.5L VQ. And of course the maxima is going to drive like the altima, not only are they using the same engine, they are built on the same platform. But you can't say that the 350z drives the same as an altima, which uses the same engine but different platforms can you?. Or for that fact is an fx35 going to drive the same as a 350z?
And also, BMW does the same thing. Their inline 6 is available in the 3-series, x3, x5, z4, and 5-series. does their x3 drive the same as their 5?
MB is doing the same with the 3.5l v6. Is an SLK350 going to drive the same as an e350?
Honda does the same thing, every v6 car has the same engine (except the nsx) but tuned with different displacements. Are you telling me the RL will drive exactly like a ridgeline since they share the same engine?
come to think of it, MOST if not all manufacturers have 1 engine they use in most of their modesl and they don't seem to have a problem with design/development or distinction between their models.
There's a magical thing called "engineering" that makes it all possible.
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Originally Posted by youngTL
What's wrong with that? In and of itself, it's not a problem. But if they have a problem with a redesign of it, it affects more cars. And it's just boring. It doesn't give the cars much distinction. The Maxima drives almost the same as the Altima. Yes the VQ35DE is a good engine, but it seems like it's their ONLY good engine because they only put the research into that. The Altima 4 cylinder (the 2.5S) is a rough, unrefined engine compared to similiar 4 cylinders from competitors.
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That thing is horrible!
Pure Crap!
Pure Crap!
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When is Toyota going to get rid of DERIVATIVE STYLING and start being original?
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That thing is horrible!
Pure Crap!
Pure Crap!
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...looks better than the current Camry. I'm curious as to how the new ES will look.
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Originally Posted by F23A4
...looks better than the current Camry. I'm curious as to how the new ES will look.
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Originally Posted by titan
Rumor is it'll be based off the next gen rwd Avalon.
Motor Trend or Road & Track said that the current ES will be the last car to use a Toyota Platform. With the current GS and new IS utitlizing newly developed platform(s), that statement seems very true.
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Originally Posted by AsianRage
Motor Trend or Road & Track said that the current ES will be the last car to use a Toyota Platform. With the current GS and new IS utitlizing newly developed platform(s), that statement seems very true.
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Spy Shots: '07 Toyota Camry - - by Brenda Priddy - - Source: The Car Connection
Toyota - one of the most difficult brands to catch testing, was spotted earlier this week testing a pre-production Camry. Even with tape covering the sheetmetal, the car is easy to identify and even easier to make out most of its lines and contours.
Toyota will launch the '07 Camry early - possibly as early as January of 2006, making it one of the first 2007 models on the road. In addition to the expected in-line four and V-6 engines, Toyota is expected to offer a hybrid powerplant to the Camry lineup - with nearly 48,000 Camry hybrids expected to be built at Toyota's Georgetown, Ky., plant.
Toyota will launch the '07 Camry early - possibly as early as January of 2006, making it one of the first 2007 models on the road. In addition to the expected in-line four and V-6 engines, Toyota is expected to offer a hybrid powerplant to the Camry lineup - with nearly 48,000 Camry hybrids expected to be built at Toyota's Georgetown, Ky., plant.
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Needs more black tape!