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Old 11-13-2008, 11:54 AM
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^ rwd coupe is enough of a sports car for me, it could come with 100hp, that just means i get to somehow get an ls1 in there lmao
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i don't mind it. i like the tC, and i don't care if it's under the scion badge.
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i wouldnt mind driving a scion either, i mean most people wont buy a hyundai mainly for the name but scion doesnt have that associated with it
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i wouldnt mind driving a scion either, i mean most people wont buy a hyundai mainly for the name but scion doesnt have that associated with it
but i think there are a lot of people that think the scion badge has either a 1) teenager or 2) gay stigma to it.

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but i think there are a lot of people that think the scion badge has either a 1) teenager or 2) gay stigma to it.

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I am by no means a badge whore, but I guess i'm young enough i'd almost rather have a scion badge than a toyota, only cause the average age of toyota buyers is like 50, they no longer even make a 'sports' car, and really I don't think the toyota badge today has the history of the toyota brand behind it from their cars pre-1990.
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scion is the only brand out of the group to bring some flavour, yes lexus is nice but their cars are like big comfy couches
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Toyota Pushes RWD Coupe Back to 2012
According to Japan’s Nikkei newspaper, the upcoming Subaru/Toyota rear-wheel-drive sports car has been delayed to 2012. Nikkei did not say where it got the information but said that production was to start at the end of 2011 and that Toyota has decided to postpone it until 2012.

“We’re discussing with Fuji Heavy the timing for the start of production and other details,” Hideaki Homma, a Toyota spokesman, said when contacted by Bloomberg. He declined to give further details on the talks.

The Subaru/Toyota rear-wheel-drive sports car will be powered by a 2.0L 4-cylinder boxer engine that makes 200-hp. A Subaru version of the car will come to markets first and will be priced under $20,000. The Toyota version of the car will follow at a later date.

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SHOCKER!!!
Never saw this coming.
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Sad to see that it's delayed. I was looking forward to the coupe market heating up again
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next thing we know hyundai is going to delay their coupe too, man this economy sucks
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genesis coupe is coming for sure.
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genesis coupe is coming for sure.
The development is done on that.. heck, it's being sold in Korea, so there's no stopping it now...
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Toyota/Subaru RWD Coupe

I couldn't find the thread about the Toyota/Subaru collaboration on a RWD sports car to put this in. If a moderator has better luck, please put this in that thread. Thanks.

TOKYO — If you've recently read a story or two about the delay, or even the demise, of the compact sport coupe that Toyota and Subaru are jointly working on, don't believe it. That's the message from knowledgeable PR sources in Japan, who tell Inside Line that this intriguing sports car program is still very much on track.

Last April, Toyota and Subaru confirmed they were working on a new compact, rear-wheel-drive sport-coupe project for 2011, the car the industry has since fondly come to know as the "Toyobaru."

To be built by Subaru and based off a new Subaru-developed platform (converted to rear-wheel drive), the sports car will also run with Subaru's prized boxer 2.0-liter engine. There will be both Toyota and Subaru versions of the car, each looking different but with the same normally aspirated flat-four engine under the hood.

Japan's influential Nikkei business newspaper ran a headline story in December, meantime, claiming that in the wake of the severe market meltdown, the Toyobaru was being postponed.

Toyota and Subaru had decided to delay the start of production, the paper claimed, with production now "likely to be postponed to 2012 or later."

Both representatives from Toyota and Subaru's press offices in Tokyo have recently denied the story. "The project is still on track, according to the info I have on hand," says a Toyota spokesperson.

What has changed is the production site. The original idea was for Subaru to build a completely new factory in Oizumi, in Japan's Gunma prefecture, to build the car. But the economic crisis has now prompted Subaru to can that project, so the Toyobaru, when it is built, will be made inside Subaru's long-serving Gunma main plant, which is now due to be refurbished.
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Merged. Please try searching by Title and the manufacturer's name.



BTW, it was never reported that the car was cancelled...it was delayed. So, no big news per se...
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See this is what I don't understand about the decisions that are being made right now.

I would think that cars that bring people to the showroom to impulsively buy would be a GOOD thing.

Instead all these companies are retrenching with the car equivalent of a washing machine.
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^^ Not a whole lot of impulse buying going on.
Consumer confidence numbers are "not so good".
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It's only delayed because they've decided to add DI the EJ20 Boxer engine:

http://www.7tune.com/toyotasubaru-co...car-code-086a/

http://www.autospies.com/news/More-d...ru-086A-41717/

It will probably get much better fuel economy than my 350Z
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looks like a Scion tC had a baby with an Aston
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TRAVERSE CITY, Michigan — Toyota Motor President Akio Toyoda, making his first public appearance in the U.S. since assuming the top job in June, confirmed that the company plans to launch an affordable sports car "in the next few years."

The so-called "Toyobaru" is a compact, rear-drive two-plus-two coupe that's being developed in partnership with Fuji Heavy Industries, the parent of Subaru and an affiliate of Toyota. Both Toyota and Subaru versions of the car are expected to be unveiled this fall at the 2009 Tokyo Auto Show.

Akio Toyoda, grandson of the founder, spoke about the sports car and about his vision for the company in a speech here at the annual Management Briefing Seminars sponsored by the Center for Automotive Research.

A self-described "car nut," he said, "I am passionate about driving and I race as well.... I want to see Toyota build cars that are fun and exciting to drive." Referring to the new sports car, Toyoda said, "I am very excited about it, and I plan to fast-track it."
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Maybe, maybe not... But I agree, until we see something (this fall?), I'll believe it when I see it.

Honda is fucking shit up with hybrid sports cars (cr-z and rumored s2k replacement), and toyota is kicking honda's ass with it's 50 (combined) mpg Prius, wouldn't suprise me if Toyota/Subaru or Nissan comes out with a kickass rwd sports car before honda does... Shit, Hyundai beat them all to it with the gencoupe...
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^^ Honda RWD sportscar for the masses?!?!?
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^^ Honda RWD sportscar for the masses?!?!?
Before anyone says anything, the S2000 doesn't really count since its only available as a roadster, and they let it age too much without a real makeover, which made it stale.
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I personally don't mind having a hybrid sports car lol....I mean it's kinda funny to watch how the Insight pwned the Prius around Tsukuba by a massive 3-second gap per lap with much less power...hahaha....
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wouldn't suprise me if Toyota/Subaru or Nissan comes out with a kickass rwd sports car before honda does... Shit, Hyundai beat them all to it with the gencoupe...
How about the Z? The Gen. coupe is nice, but it can't compete with the Z.
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How about the Z? The Gen. coupe is nice, but it can't compete with the Z.
I should have said "2+2 coupe"... 2 seaters are fine for weekend cars, but a rwd coupe for the masses needs to have more than 2 seats... That's why the gencoupe (and bmw 1 series to a lesser extent because of price) kick ass. Affordable 2+2 rwd coupes rock.
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So the Subaru one will be AWD and the Toyota will be RWD? It'll be strange if both are RWD and compete with each other.

Genesis coupe is pretty good, but Civic Si still seems quite competent.

It's Acura that needs a coupe.
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^^ Acura needs A LOT more than just a coupe these days.
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I think Toyota's impetus peaked in the 90's. Before 1990 = Taurus and Mustang rule the world.

Scion's are a goofy kid's car. Fake sporty. All show, no go, etc. I drove an early tC. It was awful.

This is about Toyota buying tech and credibility from Subaru. Toyota has zero street cred with its existing product among young performance enthusiasts. With the WRX, Subaru has it in spades. I bet there are a lot more 18 year olds with STI wallpapers than IS350 (Toyota's one performance oriented vehicle) wallpapers.
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I think Toyota's impetus peaked in the 90's. Before 1990 = Taurus and Mustang rule the world.

Scion's are a goofy kid's car. Fake sporty. All show, no go, etc. I drove an early tC. It was awful.

This is about Toyota buying tech and credibility from Subaru. Toyota has zero street cred with its existing product among young performance enthusiasts. With the WRX, Subaru has it in spades. I bet there are a lot more 18 year olds with STI wallpapers than IS350 (Toyota's one performance oriented vehicle) wallpapers.
You mean the IS-F? Even the old TL-S could beat the IS350 on a track.
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You mean the IS-F? Even the old TL-S could beat the IS350 on a track.
I guess I just meant the IS in general.
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Toyota FT-86 Concept

October 6, 2009 - 12:30 am ET

TOKYO -- Toyota Motor Corp. goes sporty at this months' Tokyo Motor Show, unveiling its vision for a sport coupe being jointly developed with Subaru.

The Toyota-badged car, dubbed the FT-86 Concept, is the spiritual successor to the AE86 sport coupe of the 1980s, which was based on the Corolla. Like its boxy predecessor, the FT-86 Concept is compact, lightweight and has a low center of gravity.

But the styling is modernized with a rounded, sleek silhouette.

The FT-86 is Toyota's concept for a sporty coupe being undertaken with Fuji Heavy Industries Inc., the company that manufactures Subaru vehicles. While it is fitted with a 2.0-liter boxer engine from Subaru, the overall design was created by Toyota's ED2 styling studio in France. Even the blue-red metallic paint was specially developed by Toyota.

Sports cars have to be red, but we wanted a new red, said chief engineer Tetsuya Tada. So we came up with Shoujyouhi Red, the traditional red color of a Japanese monkey's backside.

Toyota and Fuji Heavy plan to start producing a sporty car in late 2011.

Toyota will be responsible for most of the engineering. Fuji Heavy will supply the horizontally opposed engine and manufacture the car at a Subaru plant.

The FT-86 seats four and has a front-engine, rear-drive layout. The boxer engine allows for a lower hood and gives the car a lower center of gravity.

Fuji Heavy won't comment on whether the FT-86 Concept is that car or not; Subaru won't be displaying a sports car at the Oct. 24-Nov. 4 Tokyo Motor Show. But the car clearly underscores new President Akio Toyoda's push for more muscular, fun-to-drive models.

Tada said Toyota wants the FT-86's sticker price to be in the $20,000 range. It won't sell if it's over 3 million yen ($30,000),he said. The price has to appeal to regular customers.

The car seats four and has a front-engine, rear-drive layout. The boxer engine allows for a lower hood and gives the FT-86 a lower center of gravity. Key to the design was maximizing fuel efficiency by reducing weight and creating a compact design, Tada said.

Tada also said it gets a dedicated chassis, noting that enthusiasts don't want a shared platform.






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That thing looks bad ass.. Looks like it has A LOT of potential..

I'd debadge the rear emblem though..
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Looks pretty cool for a concept. I'm sure the intense styling will be toned down, and based on what I can see so far, I think it will be a good looking car. The interior is definitely funky, and I wonder how those knee-bolsters and that shifter works, but not bad at all.

Hopefully this is a sign of Toyota's return to the cars they made in the 80's and 90's. No more appliances
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Perhaps it'll be like a revival of the AE86?
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Perhaps it'll be like a revival of the AE86?
hmm.... interesting point, I wonder why they named it the FT-86?
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Yes, I wonder as well.

Just for the record I didn't realize it was named the FT-86 - I assumed it was like an AE86 revival due to their "RWD for the masses" slogan.
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