Tesla: Cybertruck News
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Sanest Florida Man
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Sanest Florida Man
Rumors are that the Model Y deliveries will start in a month or two, it has been spotted all over the country the past month or two
#84
Okay, I just wanna see what the he** is this stuff really. I booked one so that I can have a first hand review whenever it arrives. It's only $100 anyway.
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#1 STUNNA (11-26-2019)
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Sanest Florida Man
My next vehicle will be a Tesla, I was originally wanting the 3 but then the Y interested me because it’s more practical due to the extra storage space, then this thing comes along, and I’m realizing that I use my car more like a truck, I throw tools, equipment and ladders in the back, and a truck would probably suit me better, especially with the secured storage. My concern is how much of this storage is water proof like a car trunk. If the entire truck bed is waterproof/resistant when the cover is down then that’s a definite purchase for me. More storage, just as many passengers as the model Y for $5k less!? Yes please.
An ICE truck is absolutely out of the question for me, my next vehicle will be electric 100%.
An ICE truck is absolutely out of the question for me, my next vehicle will be electric 100%.
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Comfy (11-30-2019)
#87
Ex-OEM King
Or these:
https://www.greencarreports.com/news...-superchargers
That means the couple’s 3,800 pound 2017 R-Pod 180 shouldn’t be much of a challenge. But what no one tells you about towing a camper is that it takes vastly more energy (in juice or gas) than just driving around. Jenny reports that the trailer cut the range of their Model X by 45 to 60 percent depending on hills and wind, with Fred driving at 55 to 60 mph. Sometimes Fred said he even slowed down to 50 mph to make a stretch into a campsite at night on what was left of a charge in the battery.With the Model X 100D’s rated range of 295 miles, that meant they had to find a charger every 200 miles, if not sooner, or about every four hours of driving. Sometimes Supercharger spacing reduced that to 150 miles.
With a full charge at the beginning of the trip, Kennedy observes the amount of energy consumption by comparing the Tesla’s Instant Range reading with the change in speed and surface street elevation. The Model X consumed an average of 575 watt-hours per mile while traveling at 55 mph in steady state cruising on level roads. Not surprisingly, the amount of energy used drastically increased when the 5,441 lb. Model X plus the additional 4,850 lb. boat and trailer combination was faced with an incline and a slight increase in speed, to the tune of 800 – 900 Wh/mi.
At that rate of energy consumption, the range impact when towing could be cut by 60% or more.
At that rate of energy consumption, the range impact when towing could be cut by 60% or more.
Again you wouldn't have to wait an hour for it to charge. This guy went over 1000 miles in one day in a mid range (260mi) model 3. His longest charge time was 22 minutes. This was before Tesla increased the Supercharger v2 charge rate by 20%, and made changes to the battery so that it charged 25% faster at a Supercharger. So his max charge times could be about half that nowadays. Also as I mentioned before with their new V3 Supercharger (also not featured in this old video) you can charge at up to 250kw or about 1000/mi per hour. You'd have 150 miles of range in 10 minutes at that speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Aq5qI87SrA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Aq5qI87SrA
The downside of this route of 1000 miles in a day is that it's entirely dependent on you following a specific route that included the superchargers that were needed. If you wanted to divert from that route to go a bit further off the beaten path then what? This is even more of an issue with the truck if you want to take it somewhere you don't have supercharger support.
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RPhilMan1 (11-27-2019)
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Tesla supercharger network is continuously increasing as we speak. With the additional $10 billion they have secured over the last three days I hope some of it may help the supercharger network as well.
People had the same concern in the past when gas driven cars were getting popular versus horse carriages. Eventually the increased number of gas stations put everyone at ease.
The only difference here is you can carry a can of gas to help a stranded gas vehicle but you can’t carry extra battery for a stranded battery vehicle .
Now I don’t have a truck or tow anything but I was told that if you’re carrying heavy trailer loads such as fifth wheel trailers in a capable pick up truck you still need to stop every few hours due to engine overheating issues or to change fluid in the radiator or stuff like that. I don’t think that is the purpose of Cybertruck anyway and it’d fail if anyone attempts that.
People had the same concern in the past when gas driven cars were getting popular versus horse carriages. Eventually the increased number of gas stations put everyone at ease.
The only difference here is you can carry a can of gas to help a stranded gas vehicle but you can’t carry extra battery for a stranded battery vehicle .
Now I don’t have a truck or tow anything but I was told that if you’re carrying heavy trailer loads such as fifth wheel trailers in a capable pick up truck you still need to stop every few hours due to engine overheating issues or to change fluid in the radiator or stuff like that. I don’t think that is the purpose of Cybertruck anyway and it’d fail if anyone attempts that.
Last edited by Comfy; 11-27-2019 at 12:04 PM.
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Again you wouldn't have to wait an hour for it to charge. This guy went over 1000 miles in one day in a mid range (260mi) model 3. His longest charge time was 22 minutes. This was before Tesla increased the Supercharger v2 charge rate by 20%, and made changes to the battery so that it charged 25% faster at a Supercharger. So his max charge times could be about half that nowadays. Also as I mentioned before with their new V3 Supercharger (also not featured in this old video) you can charge at up to 250kw or about 1000/mi per hour. You'd have 150 miles of range in 10 minutes at that speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Aq5qI87SrA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Aq5qI87SrA
#90
They’ve been ahead of schedule lately
https://twitter.com/driveelectricuk/...589765641?s=21
https://twitter.com/bridieev/status/...233098752?s=21
https://twitter.com/driveelectricuk/...589765641?s=21
https://twitter.com/bridieev/status/...233098752?s=21
Also didn’t realize the deposit was only $100, but that explains why so many people are posting on social media about it. That price is more for hype than a capital injection.
Still, I won’t be getting rid of my truck for one. Admittedly I have a very niche use, of which EVs have way too many downsides to ever consider.
#91
Fahrvergnügen'd
FAQ and newer rates below.
https://www.tesla.com/support/supercharging
#92
Race Director
Thread Starter
For context, a newer BMW 330 can probably get 35 MPG on that same itinerary/speed, so the its cost would be about $95 (28 gal at about $3.40/gal).
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#95
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Shit.. I ordered that shit fast.
It's so fucking ugly, it's beautiful.
It's so fucking ugly, it's beautiful.
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It’s not that difficult to see that a car on a slightly smaller scale would look like a Lamborghini and can sell like crazy.
May be they have a Cybercar or Cyber SUV in the works.
May be they have a Cybercar or Cyber SUV in the works.
#99
lmao @ the dislikes on this video
I actually never watched the Cybertruck tug of war demo, since I don't care for these gimmicks. Didn't even realize the F150 was either 2WD or in 2 High.
TL;DW at best, the test was disingenuous. But hype generated regardless, so it doesn't matter.
I actually never watched the Cybertruck tug of war demo, since I don't care for these gimmicks. Didn't even realize the F150 was either 2WD or in 2 High.
TL;DW at best, the test was disingenuous. But hype generated regardless, so it doesn't matter.
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Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
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#101
Sanest Florida Man
lmao @ the dislikes on this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzKCJsou10w
I actually never watched the Cybertruck tug of war demo, since I don't care for these gimmicks. Didn't even realize the F150 was either 2WD or in 2 High.
TL;DW at best, the test was disingenuous. But hype generated regardless, so it doesn't matter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzKCJsou10w
I actually never watched the Cybertruck tug of war demo, since I don't care for these gimmicks. Didn't even realize the F150 was either 2WD or in 2 High.
TL;DW at best, the test was disingenuous. But hype generated regardless, so it doesn't matter.
Hopefully it still happens though...
#102
Sanest Florida Man
Someone else made some great points in why the Cybertruck could be a hit with commercial truck fleets
Everyone hates the look of a Prius but that doesn’t stop businesses buying them up for their commercial fleets because they save lots of money with them.
I have a fleet of commercial vehicles. Maintenance is a HUGE expense. The cybertruck will have minimal brake servicing, no oil changes/engine/transmission/exhaust/fuel system costs, won't rust, won't dent from every six-year-old opening the door of the car parked beside it, won't need any painting, windshields won't need replacement with every rock chip. Insurance claims and therefore premiums should get lower. With the promised million mile battery and similarly durable motors, the vehicle could be usable for 20 or 30 years. So depreciation goes way down. This means fewer vehicles need to be made in the future to replace the fleet. Another big win for the pocketbook and the environment. This is an absolutely genius product, and any business operating commercial vehicles will recognize that. Employees who are biased against triangles will just have to suffer.
Oh, and I can get rid of my generators and compressors and their associated fuel and maintenance? And lock boxes, loading ramps? Carries more crew. And there's all the tech - little things like fewer accidents. It's a good thing the damn thing looks futuristic because we're going to be seeing them on the roads for a looooong time.
Oh, and I can get rid of my generators and compressors and their associated fuel and maintenance? And lock boxes, loading ramps? Carries more crew. And there's all the tech - little things like fewer accidents. It's a good thing the damn thing looks futuristic because we're going to be seeing them on the roads for a looooong time.
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; 12-02-2019 at 06:53 PM.
#103
A sort of biased funny article which made me really think hard about Tesla.
The Tesla Conspiracy... or Am I a Dead Whistleblower? - EVTV Motor Verks
The Tesla Conspiracy... or Am I a Dead Whistleblower? - EVTV Motor Verks
#104
Ex-OEM King
Also, none of this has anything to do with how ugly it is.
#105
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Yo face busted
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RPhilMan1 (12-04-2019)
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I can definitely see that being the case. Would not be surprised to see companies coming out with all sorts of accessories for it. Plus being able to use the truck’s massive battery capacity to power more tools would be nice
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Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Quite the contrary, that video is bullshit
Tow 5Thousandddd fucking pounds.. up a MILE.. and over 100 fucking miles.. @75 MPH!?!?!
Is this guy serious.. what a dumbass.. and his computation proved it's still capable
The only reasonable trek I think this applies is if you're hauling a big ass boat from Sacramento to Lake Tahoe
I'm talking fucking big ass boat.. the max rating on most trailers is 3500 lbs
For comparison, this fifth wheel is 5000 lbs
Then this dumbass is like hey.. let's check out the cybertruck
But have it tow 14Thousannddd fucking pounds under the same parameters!!!
Example (1 mile up, 100 miles out, 75MPH!!!):
And then to say an F150 only requires 14% of the energy to do the same..
Really.. we're expected to believe an F150 will tow the same load.. the same distance.. the same elevation
And only require a little over an 1/8th tank of gas
Oh btw... F150 isn't actually rated to tow that much.
And.. the again.. he fucking proves the Tesla can do it.. and have juice to space.
I know that guy has a ME, but so does Gatr.. nuff said.
Fucking clickbait dipshit
Lots of examples of Teslas with tow duty being on point
Would I buy a Tesla to tow, fuck no, but how many shitheads buy an F150 to tow
Tow 5Thousandddd fucking pounds.. up a MILE.. and over 100 fucking miles.. @75 MPH!?!?!
Is this guy serious.. what a dumbass.. and his computation proved it's still capable
The only reasonable trek I think this applies is if you're hauling a big ass boat from Sacramento to Lake Tahoe
I'm talking fucking big ass boat.. the max rating on most trailers is 3500 lbs
For comparison, this fifth wheel is 5000 lbs
Then this dumbass is like hey.. let's check out the cybertruck
But have it tow 14Thousannddd fucking pounds under the same parameters!!!
Example (1 mile up, 100 miles out, 75MPH!!!):
And then to say an F150 only requires 14% of the energy to do the same..
Really.. we're expected to believe an F150 will tow the same load.. the same distance.. the same elevation
And only require a little over an 1/8th tank of gas
Oh btw... F150 isn't actually rated to tow that much.
And.. the again.. he fucking proves the Tesla can do it.. and have juice to space.
I know that guy has a ME, but so does Gatr.. nuff said.
Fucking clickbait dipshit
Lots of examples of Teslas with tow duty being on point
Would I buy a Tesla to tow, fuck no, but how many shitheads buy an F150 to tow
#111
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
BTW.. rumorville.. Tesla is working on a PV cell for the truck.
Get your orders in boys and girls.. Elon needs some walkaround money.
Get your orders in boys and girls.. Elon needs some walkaround money.
#113
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
Tesla is just a convoluted ponzi scheme using crowdfunding to keep the wheels greased
#114
Sanest Florida Man
Quite the contrary, that video is bullshit
Tow 5Thousandddd fucking pounds.. up a MILE.. and over 100 fucking miles.. @75 MPH!?!?!
Is this guy serious.. what a dumbass.. and his computation proved it's still capable
The only reasonable trek I think this applies is if you're hauling a big ass boat from Sacramento to Lake Tahoe
I'm talking fucking big ass boat.. the max rating on most trailers is 3500 lbs
For comparison, this fifth wheel is 5000 lbs
Then this dumbass is like hey.. let's check out the cybertruck
But have it tow 14Thousannddd fucking pounds under the same parameters!!!
Example (1 mile up, 100 miles out, 75MPH!!!):
And then to say an F150 only requires 14% of the energy to do the same..
Really.. we're expected to believe an F150 will tow the same load.. the same distance.. the same elevation
And only require a little over an 1/8th tank of gas
Oh btw... F150 isn't actually rated to tow that much.
And.. the again.. he fucking proves the Tesla can do it.. and have juice to space.
I know that guy has a ME, but so does Gatr.. nuff said.
Fucking clickbait dipshit
Lots of examples of Teslas with tow duty being on point
Would I buy a Tesla to tow, fuck no, but how many shitheads buy an F150 to tow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__zvRSq-HgE
Tow 5Thousandddd fucking pounds.. up a MILE.. and over 100 fucking miles.. @75 MPH!?!?!
Is this guy serious.. what a dumbass.. and his computation proved it's still capable
The only reasonable trek I think this applies is if you're hauling a big ass boat from Sacramento to Lake Tahoe
I'm talking fucking big ass boat.. the max rating on most trailers is 3500 lbs
For comparison, this fifth wheel is 5000 lbs
Then this dumbass is like hey.. let's check out the cybertruck
But have it tow 14Thousannddd fucking pounds under the same parameters!!!
Example (1 mile up, 100 miles out, 75MPH!!!):
And then to say an F150 only requires 14% of the energy to do the same..
Really.. we're expected to believe an F150 will tow the same load.. the same distance.. the same elevation
And only require a little over an 1/8th tank of gas
Oh btw... F150 isn't actually rated to tow that much.
And.. the again.. he fucking proves the Tesla can do it.. and have juice to space.
I know that guy has a ME, but so does Gatr.. nuff said.
Fucking clickbait dipshit
Lots of examples of Teslas with tow duty being on point
Would I buy a Tesla to tow, fuck no, but how many shitheads buy an F150 to tow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__zvRSq-HgE
But I still think the takeaway that Cybertruck isn’t going to be successful because the first version can’t easily tow 14000lbs up a 1% grade for 100 miles is ridiculous. That’s an edge use case and nothing like the normal use case for a truck.
#115
Ex-OEM King
Reference SAE J2807 for towing requirements. There are many to meet, it's not that simple.
#116
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
I'm still laughing at towing a fucking max load at 75 mph up a grade..
Even the states that have 75 mph or higher speed limits, that's only certain roads
Most states are 70 and below ffs
Even the states that have 75 mph or higher speed limits, that's only certain roads
Most states are 70 and below ffs
#117
Just in case you didn't know...Musk won the lawsuit.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-elon...rnon-unsworth/
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-elon...rnon-unsworth/
#118
Azine Jabroni
Just in case you didn't know...Musk won the lawsuit.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-elon...rnon-unsworth/
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-elon...rnon-unsworth/
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Chapter Leader (Southern Region)