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Old 01-14-2009, 12:13 PM
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just bring over the STI S402
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Originally Posted by aaronnn View Post
i hate when stupid manufacturers make these concept ideas WAY over the top. we all know they're not going to do any of that. maybe some hints on the styling cues/design lines, but all those other little gizmos and gadgets are tacky and dumb.

why cant they just be realistic and come out with concepts that are going to be closer to the real thing?
Bitch much?

Concepts are suppose to be wild and over the top. I mean look at all of the crazy cool designs that Mazda has released the past 2 years.

Beside, just take away all the removable exterior bits (grill, and lights, etc) and you have body panels indicative of what the next generation Legacy will look like.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:16 AM
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who's bitching. im just calling it as i see it.

sure concepts are a way to show off what they got. but in the end, it just ends up costing them that much to design all that, in order for them to NOT make it?

give us the real thing, or a taste of what's to come. is that much to ask for? they show us all this pizazz and flamboyancy, but when the real thing comes out, its way conservative compared to the concept that they showed us half a year ago.
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Originally Posted by aaronnn View Post
who's bitching. im just calling it as i see it.

sure concepts are a way to show off what they got. but in the end, it just ends up costing them that much to design all that, in order for them to NOT make it?

give us the real thing, or a taste of what's to come. is that much to ask for? they show us all this pizazz and flamboyancy, but when the real thing comes out, its way conservative compared to the concept that they showed us half a year ago.
Companies have been doing this.. No?

Plus, I think there are various types of traffic law related design criterias that need to be incorporated into real car designs, however, all those concept vehicles do not have to follow those criterias.

Concepts must create as much publicity as possible. That's why companies always introduce its 'concepts' in the advance. Right? And, that is why the concepts always look much more fancy.

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Old 01-15-2009, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by aaronnn View Post
who's bitching. im just calling it as i see it.

sure concepts are a way to show off what they got. but in the end, it just ends up costing them that much to design all that, in order for them to NOT make it?

give us the real thing, or a taste of what's to come. is that much to ask for? they show us all this pizazz and flamboyancy, but when the real thing comes out, its way conservative compared to the concept that they showed us half a year ago.
I'm also just calling it as I see it. This concept from Subaru has stuff that looks extremely close to production ready. Concept are basically teasers, sometime they show just enough, sometime they don't. I mean, I've already pointed out items that does show exactly what you're asking for. They're all there. You just have to look for them.
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Official Pics of 2010 Legacy headed for New York Auto Show:













Concept was much cooler. This looks like an Infiniti front end and a BMW back end.
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not bad, i would definitely consider it for my next car...
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Old 03-31-2009, 01:40 PM
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The exterior would be pretty nice if it weren't for the huge ass headlights. And that center stack is UG-LY! Interior isn't as elegant and understated as the old one.
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rear reminds me of last gen mmc accord sedan especially the bumper (am i too crazy?)
in that second pic, wheel looks small for the size of the car

meh
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A miss IMO. Looks like it lost any sporting intentions the previous car had. Then again maybe that was the point.
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Old 03-31-2009, 02:18 PM
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The greenhouse is too big for the car. I love the look of the current gen because it's so balanced in term of its proportion and how it incorporated all the design influences, unlike this concept.
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Old 03-31-2009, 02:18 PM
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the back reminds me of the new gs300.
04-07 body style ftw.
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that the front looks like an infiniti and the back, a bmw.

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the concept was much cooler.

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A miss IMO. Looks like it lost any sporting intentions the previous car had. Then again maybe that was the point.
and again.

the current version is a sportier alternative to the accord and camry. this one looks like another accord and/or camry.
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actually the back kinda reminds me of a Hyundai
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^ how dare you


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Unfortunately sporting intentions don't equal sales.

See Mazda 6. But unlike the 6, this car got big and ugly.
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Unfortunately sporting intentions don't equal sales.

See Mazda 6. But unlike the 6, this car got big and ugly.
that's what I was thinking. The old 6 was a nice, sporty car as it was. At first I was taken aback by the FMC, then it made sense seeing as how it had features and dimensions similar to the Accord/Camry
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Old 03-31-2009, 03:00 PM
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Don't care for it.
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Unfortunately sporting intentions don't equal sales.

See Mazda 6. But unlike the 6, this car got big and ugly.
It looks like it's going to be difficult for me to find something to replace my 04 Mazda 6, which I really enjoy. I had high hopes for the new Legacy, but it seems to be very generic and underwhelming.
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actually the back kinda reminds me of a Hyundai


Definitely got hit with the ugly stick. Another one bites the dust.
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Originally Posted by JD23 View Post
It looks like it's going to be difficult for me to find something to replace my 04 Mazda 6, which I really enjoy. I had high hopes for the new Legacy, but it seems to be very generic and underwhelming.
Exactly. Generic and underwhelming. Good description.
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Here's part of the press release (I deleted a lot of the boring filler and focused on the engines):

Subaru Introduces All-New Legacy Sedan at New York International Auto Show

Roomiest Legacy Sedan Ever with New Levels of Comfort and Refinement
Legacy 2.5-Liter Naturally-Aspirated Models Feature Newly Developed Lineartronic™ CVT

Tokyo, March 31, 2009 - Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. (FHI), manufacturer of Subaru automobiles, today announced the unveiling of the all-new Legacy sedan (U.S. specifications) at the New York International Auto Show (press days on April 8 and 9, open to the public from April 10 through 19). The new sedan will be introduced in the U.S. market as the 2010 Legacy.

In the 20 years since the introduction of the first Legacy model, FHI has remained committed to enhancing both sporty handing and safety technology and has made significant improvements to this fifth-generation Legacy sedan. Featuring Subaru's core technology, symmetrical All-Wheel-Drive (AWD), along with FHI's original Horizontally-Opposed (BOXER) engine, the all-new Legacy sedan draws together superb driving performance and vital environmental considerations, while providing increased room and unparalleled comfort. The new Legacy sedan also features the new Subaru Lineartronic™ CVT (continuously variable transmission) and a new engine cradle design.

[Note: Information provided in this release is based on U.S. specifications.]

Larger midsize package for all occupants to enjoy On an all-new platform, the new Legacy sedan offers roominess comparable to mainstream midsize sedans in the North American market that are built around comfort and space.

• The new Legacy sedan is 35 mm longer, 90 mm wider and 80 mm higher than the previous model. While its overhang dimensions are shortened by 45 mm, its wheelbase is expanded by 80 mm, allowing for additional rear legroom.
• The trunk is enlarged and offers larger volume than the previous model, while its opening is also wider and placed lower for easier access and utility. The trunk will accommodate four nine-inch golf bags.

Engine and transmission
The new Legacy sedan is powered by improved Boxer engines that provide outstanding fuel economy. Three engine types are available in the U.S. market.

Legacy 2.5i
Engine displacement: 2,457cc
Max. output/ max. torque: 170 [email protected] 5,600rpm/ 170 [email protected] 4,000rpm
Transmission: 6-speed manual / Lineartronic™ CVT

Legacy 2.5GT
Engine displacement: 2,457cc
Max. output/ max. torque: 265 [email protected] 5,600rpm/ 258 [email protected],000- 5,200rpm
Transmission: 6-speed manual

Legacy 3.6R
Engine displacement: 3,630cc
Max. output/ max. torque: 256 [email protected] 6,000rpm/ 247 [email protected] 4,400rpm
Transmission: 5-speed automatic

2.5-liter SOHC engine
• Employing a resin-based intake manifold, the engine is now lighter in weight and improves low speed range torque. Additionally, better fuel economy is achieved through engine cooling performance improvement in an engine head. Optimizing the specifications of its catalyst, the engine offers outstanding exhaust gas control.

2.5-liter DOHC Turbo engine
• Design changes in the turbocharger have raised performance and lowered emission levels.
• Peak torque is generated at levels as low as 2,000 rpm, and sustained smoothly at higher rpm ranges.
• The turbocharger unit is placed directly under the forward part of the crankshaft. This layout shortens the distance that exhaust gas must travel, increases response with smoother turbocharging and improves filtering of emissions. It also helps to lower the vehicle's center gravity, which results in more efficient weight distribution.

3.6-liter DOHC engine
• Featuring the same external dimensions as the earlier 3.0-liter engine, the new 3.6-liter engine is compact and lightweight.
• The Active Valve Control System (AVCS), which incorporates variable valve timing on both the intake and exhaust valves, optimizes power delivery across the engine's speed range while helping to reduce emissions. Not only does the 3.6 engine offer greater performance than the previous 3.0-liter unit, but it does so economically by using regular grade fuel. The 3.0-liter engine required premium grade.
No word on a Spec-B in the immediate future.
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not a fan of the styling.
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Ahh, I miss the styling of the concept! It reminded me of an original Cylon
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Ahh, I miss the styling of the concept! It reminded me of an original Cylon

no way... Cylon goes to EVO

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The 3.6L H6 engine is especially disappointing. 256 hp and 247 lb-ft from a 3.6L engine in 2009? Acura had a more compelling six cylinder engine in 2001.
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actually the back kinda reminds me of a Hyundai
you are talking about the Hyundai Sonata aren't you..haha..


I will forever miss the current Legacy...I guess it's hard to repeat success...lol...
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no way... Cylon goes to EVO

How about this one for the Evo?
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WTF!!!!

legacy 3.6r
engine displacement: 3,630cc
max. Output/ max. Torque: 256 [email protected] 6,000rpm/ 247 [email protected] 4,400rpm
transmission: 5-speed automatic
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I do not like the direction that it seems Japanese automakers are taking with their styling ... The new Legacy looks as fucked up as the new TL.
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Ugly car, great technology (concept car)

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Not feeling it....I think I liked the previous style better...
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I do not like the direction that it seems Japanese automakers are taking with their styling ... The new Legacy looks as fucked up as the new TL.
I think they came up with the same novel idea that Acura did with the TL.

"Hey, our current car is selling like hotcakes, lets go and fubar it by making it underpowered and uglier compared to all of our competitors, and give it a 5-speed automatic!"
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The gauge cluster....

G37


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ugly. if it weren't for the chrome and the projector headlights, the front looks like it belongs more on an economy car. In fact the first thing that came to my mind when i saw this was that scrappy little Suzuki car
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Sadly, if only it was as beautiful as an Alfa Romeo, with Subaru engineering. Now that would sell.
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Old 04-03-2009, 08:05 AM
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Nice thing about Subaru is they seem to recognize and fix their mistakes right away. (WRX, Tribeca)

Look for reworked styling in '11.
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