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Subaru: B9 Tribeca news **Recalled (page 4)**


Subaru to introduce 7-seater in '05; vehicle to show off new design direction


By DIANA T. KURYLKO | Automotive News

CHERRY HILL, N.J. - Subaru of America Inc. aims to push upmarket in the United States by introducing a premium-priced, seven-passenger sport wagon in mid-2005.

The model will be built at Subaru's factory in Lafayette, Ind.

The all-wheel-drive vehicle will show off a new design direction: a more European look that is key to Subaru's effort to compete as a premium brand, says Fred Adcock, executive vice president of Subaru of America Inc.

Annual capacity for the model at Subaru of Indiana Automotive Inc. will be 35,000 to 40,000 units, Adcock says.

The sport wagon will be based on a new car platform and use Subaru's traditional horizontally opposed engines.

Adcock says the platform is flexible enough to use for other vehicles, possibly a premium luxury car that "would be our flagship."

With the sport wagon in its lineup, Subaru expects sales to rise to 250,000 units in 2006, up from an expected 194,000 this year. Subaru sold 180,020 cars in the United States last year.

The vehicle will be priced in the mid-$30,000 range. "It would start at the upper end of the Outback and move up from there," Adcock says.

Subaru's highest priced model is the 3.0-liter, six-cylinder Outback with vehicle dynamic control and a four-speed electronic automatic transmission. It sells for $33,045 including destination.

Sport wagons are a fast-emerging segment that includes crossover models such as the Chrysler Pacifica, which went on sale this year, and the coming Mercedes-Benz GST.

But the premium-priced Pacifica has been a disappointing seller, forcing Chrysler to offer a $1,000 incentive on the vehicle just months after its introduction.

Adcock doesn't think the Pacifica's lukewarm reception shows a weak market for premium sport wagons. "There is no comparison between Subaru and Chrysler," he says. "We're a niche player very targeted in our approach and not mainstream in any shape or form."

The new Subaru will be available only in a seven-seat configuration. There will be two seats in front, three in the middle row and two in the back.

Adcock says that dealers and customers want the additional seating, and there is no reason to offer a five or four-seater.

Adcock also says Subaru will not offer a cheaper, front-wheel-drive version of the sport wagon. He says that would fly in the face of Subaru's positioning as a maker of only awd vehicles.

The base powerplant likely will be a six-cylinder, horizontally opposed boxer engine that makes 250 hp, Adcock says.

While a high output turbo version isn't planned, Adcock says, "That's not to say at some point in the future we won't look at additional performance."

Dealers were shown a prototype of the vehicle several months ago, says Michael Carr, sales manager for

Subaru of New England, an independent distributor for 59 Subaru dealerships.

"This is a necessary addition to the brand and will allow us to go to the next level of sales," Carr says. "It is something that our customers are very interested in and have been asking for a long time."

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I am sorry, I cannot take a 35-40k Suburu serious like a 35-40k VW. I can respect it but definitely not me.
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I am sorry, I cannot take a 35-40k Suburu serious like a 35-40k VW. I can respect it but definitely not me.
I'd buy a $40k Subaru long before a $40k VW.
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Subaru TRIBECA News

Subaru of America, Inc. has registered the name:

TRIBECA

and

MONTAUK

for the USA only.
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Subaru, Saab to co-develop 2nd vehicle **Subaru Confirms and Image Inside (page 1)**

Subaru, Saab to co-develop 2nd vehicle - - New crossover likely for U.S. market - - Automotive News / July 08, 2004 - - Source: AutoNews.com



TOKYO -- Subaru-maker Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. and Sweden's Saab will co-develop a new high-end crossover vehicle in their second joint vehicle project, the companies said on Thursday.

Fuji Heavy will build the crossover for Saab at Subaru of Indiana Automotive (SIA) in Lafayette, Ind., for sale likely in the United States.

The project marks an expansion of the two GM group companies' cooperation initiated last year, and follows the launch this month of the Saab 9-2X sports compact, which is built by Subaru based on its Impreza WRX model. GM owns 100 percent of Saab and has a 20 percent stake in the Japanese automaker.

"This collaboration provides many benefits such as economies of scale (and) higher joint volume for Fuji Heavy's U.S. manufacturing facility," Fuji Heavy President Kyoji Takenaka said in a statement.

So-called crossover vehicles blend characteristics of different car classes.

The vehicles will be designed separately by Subaru and Saab but they are set to share the symmetrical all-wheel-drive platform that Subaru is best known for. Both will be built at Subaru's factory in Indiana in the United States.

Fuji Heavy plans to price the upcoming crossover at around $40,000, expecting it to compete with some models such as the BMW X5 and the Volvo XC90. Subaru's version is scheduled to go on sale first, around the middle of next year.

The niche maker of off-road vehicles is banking on the vehicle, dubbed "XUV", to expand sales and profit margins in its key U.S. market.

With the model's annual sales target at 30,000 to 40,000 units, Subaru is aiming to lift its U.S. market share from 1.1 percent now to 1.5 percent by the end of its current business plan in 2006, boosting total sales there to 250,000 units.

Annual production for Saab, owned 100 percent by GM, at the SIA plant is not available.

By 2006, Fuji Heavy will raise annual production at the plant to 160,000 from about 110,000 for now. In that year, Fuji Heavy plans to build 108,000 Legacy, Outback and Baja models and 36,000 of the new Subaru crossover.

The plan will leave the Saab model room of 16,000 a year.

Subaru enjoys a big presence in the snowy northeast and northwestern rural regions of the United States, but has struggled in major cities and in the sun-belt areas of the south.

To jump-start its flagging car-making business, Fuji Heavy has been trying to craft an image as a premium brand like Germany's BMW and Sweden's Volvo AB, veering away from the reputation of offering cheap but high-value cars.

"We're holding test-drive events in 10 major U.S. cities for customers and journalists, asking them to compare our cars with other premium cars like BMWs and Volvos," Kunio Ishigami, the new CEO of Subaru's U.S. unit, told a small group of reporters in a roundtable meeting in Tokyo.

Ishigami added that Subaru also plans to renovate over 100 of its 585 U.S. showrooms by 2006 to give the brand more recognition, while converting more dealerships into exclusive sellers of Subaru cars.

In calendar 2003, Subaru sold about 187,000 vehicles in the United States, or about one-third of its global sales.

Asked if Fuji Heavy is concerned about cannibalization between Subaru and Saab models in the U.S. market, a Fuji Heavy official said the automakers generally do not compete for the same customers.

The official cited a recent survey that showed that Saab customers didn't consider Subaru models when they bought Saabs and vice versa. Also, the official said, the two models "should be quite different," he said, adding that the Saab model will offer its own design.

Reuters contributed to this report.


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is this the crossover that will replace the 9-7x? I heard it was going to be replaced in a few years
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is this the crossover that will replace the 9-7x? I heard it was going to be replaced in a few years
Probably yes. I have read the same thing.
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Saabaru Number Two in the Works - - By Jack Gilbert - - Source: The Car Connection



Subaru confirmed on Thursday TCC's hunch that it will work with Saab on a second vehicle, following the development of the 9-2X off Subaru's WRX. The two companies have struck a "win-win" deal to collaborate on a forthcoming crossover vehicle, Subaru parent company Fuji Heavy Industries President and CEO Kyoji Takenaka says. Saab is a fully owned General Motors subsidiary. GM holds a 20-percent stake in Subaru.

The Saabaru crossover will be a Subaru vehicle at its core, including such Subie staples as all-wheel drive, and will be built at Subaru'sU.S. manufacturing complex in Lafayette, Indiana. However, don't look for a pair of look-alikes to roll out of the Indiana cornfields to a dealer near you. Like the 9-2X/WRX project that precedes the crossover, GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz says both will "deliver their own distinct interpretations of a sporty and versatile crossover product."

Saab's crossover will pump the company's product lineup to five vehicles when it comes to market, joining the venerable 9-3 and 9-5 passenger cars, as well as the 9-7X SUV that's set to join Saab's lineup in 2005. The 9-7X, which dips liberally in the Chevy TrailBlazer's parts bin, is one of a slew of vehicles based on GM's mid-size body-on-frame, rear-wheel-drive SUV architecture and it represents a clear departure for the Swedish car company from its quirky roots, best defined by swift front-wheel-drive cars that rivaled Volvo in the safety sector and eclectic Scandinavian design.

Lutz, speaking to media last month, threw the future of Saab's Swedish manufacturing roots into major doubt, saying that the brand's vehicles don't need to be built on home turf any longer to preserve its essence. Obviously, with the coming of two U.S.-built vehicles - the 9-7X and the crossover - in addition to the Japan-built 9-2X and Graz, Austria-built 9-3 convertible, the reality of migration away from Sweden may already be setting in.

Saab's plant at Trollhattan, Sweden, is operating at just 59 percent of capacity, according to consultant PricewaterhouseCoopers, Automotive News reports.

However, other automakers, such as Ford Motor Co., which have bought European brands have preserved the heritage of the brands by maintaining a strong manufacturing presence in native lands - even if the manufacturing operations will inevitably expand both to the East and West. Ford's Land Rover, Aston Martin, Jaguar and Volvo all maintain home-field manufacturing bases, despite a ubiquitous struggle for profitability and quality improvement across each of the brands.

Lutz, who has spent much of 2004 meddling in GM's European operations, makes it clear that profitability and lineup expansion are top priorities when it comes to Saab. As recently as 2002, the automaker lost half-a-billion dollars, even as sales increased seven percent in the U.S. Facing the strong euro and overcapacity in the U.S., GM considers Saab production a key target for consolidation into existing U.S. facilities as the brand's lineup expands.

Speculation includes a Cadillac-badged 9-3 for Europe in order to better align the U.S. luxury brand's lineup with European tastes and utilize excess Swedish capacity at the same time, but Lutz makes it clear that such a plan is off the table at GM. If anything, the automaker needs to use Saab's homeland capacity to better focus on Saab's appeal to Europeans and let Cadillac's edgy styling and bling-bling cachet speak for itself. Most of Saab's new lineup will not be available in Europe, including the 9-2X currently on sale, and the Swedish automaker has a significant under-allotment of diesel engines, which is unfathomable considering the Continent's insatiable demand for the technology.

Auto analysts estimate a 50-percent differential between Saab's diesel take rate in Europe vs. the overall trend. As a result, Saab has struck deals with fellow GM alliance partners to buy diesels to up penetration in Europe, according to John Scantlebury of HighBeam Research LLC.

Diesel or no diesel, Saab is proving to be at a major turning point and pumping product into U.S. dealerships is proving to be GM's immediate solution. The question of the day seems to be whether Subaru products - no stranger to sales depressions - can pull the Scandinavian brand up to the General's standards. Unfortunately, June's initial 9-2X sales month, in which Saab sold less than 50 units of the WRX offshoot, doesn't give much indication which way things will go.



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Actually it is.

Merging...
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it looks like a modern Hoover vaccum cleaner
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headlights are cool, but triangle and crest on hood sucks.
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Spy Shots: ’06 Subaru Tribeca - - A five plus two crossover with seriously upmarket intentions. - - by Brenda Priddy - - Source: The Car Connection


Subaru is planning on moving up a notch or two for the 2006 model year with the introduction of its seven-passenger upscale wagon.

Updated, but based on the WX-01 Concept from the Tokyo Motor Show, this vehicle will be the first in the lineup to carry Subaru's new signature styling grille, as first seen on the B9SC Roadster Concept.

Developed under the codenames SG/X and 00X, the premium wagon has already hit the consumer clinics in southern California , and has received positive feedback.

Subaru insiders have commented about the vehicle's very versatile and highly flexible interior, and it's believed that the second and third rows of seats will fold flat to accommodate cargo, as well as flexible seating configurations. More accurately, insiders have been referring to this as a 5+2 passenger configuration.

The SG/X will be built in Lafayette, Ind. , and should start running off the assembly line in just a year from now. Sources tell us the SG/X will measure in at about 195 inches overall, with a 108-inch wheelbase. Power is expected to come from Subaru's 3.0-liter H6 boxer engine, and, of course, it will be all-wheel drive.

Although there have been several names under consideration, the name Tribeca is leading the way and has already gone through the registration process to formalize the selection.

The new SG/X will likely start in the low-to-mid $30,000 range with an estimated production of up to 40,000 units annually.

The Subaru Tribeca will be followed by Saab's version built on the same platform, and also to built in Lafayette.






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Latest news on the jointly-developed 'Saabaru' Subaru-Saab 4x4/station wagon crossover: the Subaru version is to be called Tribeca (an outlying borough of New York City). Subaru registered this name as a trademark earlier this year - along with the names Montauk (another NYC suburb, on Long Island), Continuum and Halifax for use on other upcoming models - and this name is likely to be used for the car in Europe as well as in the USA.

The Tribeca will be the first Subaru to feature a new-look grille, as seen on the B9SC concept car and on the WX-01 concept from which it has been developed. It will seat seven, with two small rearmost seats, and all the rear seats will fold flat for a versatile load space. The car has already been shown to consumer clinics in southern California, according to thecarconnection.com, and is said to have received positive feedback.

To be built in Lafayette, Indiana, production of the Tribeca will start next summer. It will be built alongside Saab's version - likely to be called 9-6X, a trademark also registered earlier this year - but the two models will have different styling and interior treatments. Power will come from engines including Subaru's 3.0-litre flat-six, though the 9-6X is expected to be offered with a GM-sourced diesel engine, at least in Europe. Saab and Subaru expect to build around 40,000 examples a year in Lafayette, and the Tribeca will ultimately replace the current Legacy Outback.



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Why Subaru............why..........
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For how much?! yeah right...
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Yeah used to work for them. Andreas was...
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Subaru names new seven-seat sport wagon B9X; vehicle to be unveiled at Detroit show - - By DIANA T. KURYLKO | Automotive News - - Source: Autoweek


Subaru's seven-seat sport wagon, to be called the B9X, shows a new design that will be used on all future Subaru vehicles.
The B9X, which is based on a car platform, goes on sale next summer as a 2006 model. It will be unveiled at the Detroit auto show in January.

Subaru released preliminary information about the vehicle at the South Florida International Auto Show last Friday, Nov. 5.

The all-wheel-drive vehicle will be shared with Saab, which is expected to introduce its version about a year after the B9X goes on sale, says Rick Crosson, vice president of marketing for Subaru of America Inc., president of Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. (Subaru), said that the B9X is powered by a 3.0-liter engine. It will be priced at around $40,000, and Subaru aims to sell 3,000 a month.

Crosson says final prices have not been set, but the B9X will cost more than the six-cylinder VDC Outback Limited wagon. That vehicle has a top price of $34,070, including destination.

The B9X is expected to compete with the Acura MDX, Nissan Murano and entry-level BMW X5 SUVs, he says.

The B9X is based on a new platform that could be used for other vehicles, says Crosson. "It will be our new flagship."

Even in the artist's rendering, new design cues are evident, he says. They include a new bolder grille and a center intake flanked by two wings. The wings symbolize Subaru's heritage as an aircraft maker. The B9X also has a curved roof line and prominent fenders.




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Not so sure I like this yet...
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2005 Detroit: Subaru's new 2006 B9X luxury crossover snagged on location - - Source: Autoweek

At the North American International Auto Show in Detroit, Subaru will officially take the wraps off the luxury crossover sport/ute it has been teasing for the past few months (AW, Nov. 15). Thanks to AutoWeek reader Mike Andrzejewski of California who recently came across a video shoot of the new vehicle in Long Beach, we get to share the 2006 Subaru B9X a little earlier than Subaru may have expected.

B9X, a seven-seat crossover powered by a 3.0-liter H6 engine linked to Subaru's symmetrical all-wheel-drive system, arrives this summer in the U.S. B9X will be followed in 2006 by the Saab version, tentatively dubbed 9-6X, which makes its world debut next spring at the New York auto show. Both vehicles will be built at Subaru's plant in Indiana.



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The front trapezoid nose is not particularly to my liking in this application.
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one word, four letters, starts with a u and ends with gly. can you guess it?
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The front trapezoid nose is not particularly to my liking in this application.
That's really the only major flaw...the rest of it looks Murano-ish...
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I mean you can tell the designer came from Alfa. The rear lights are totally taken from current Alfa Romeo cars. Can he make it more obvious?

This is the Alfa Romeo 147



And this is the 156




B9X





Also the side view looks a lot like the Lexus RX's.



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I think the side view looks a lot more like the Murano than the RX. 35K for one of these things? I don't think so.
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it is so ugly it makes my eyes hurt.

I can also see they tried to graft some BMW X5 resemblance in the rear.


But the front looks like Toyota Echo with a weirder nose.
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subarus is trying to move upmarket.
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Subaru B9-X (Tribeca)





Besides looking like a Murano-RX330, it's got Alfa tail lights and a horrific grill. Looks like a winner

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At the North American International Auto Show in Detroit, Subaru will officially take the wraps off the luxury crossover sport/ute it has been teasing for the past few months (AW, Nov. 15). Thanks to AutoWeek reader Mike Andrzejewski of California who recently came across a video shoot of the new vehicle in Long Beach, we get to share the 2006 Subaru B9X a little earlier than Subaru may have expected.
B9X, a seven-seat crossover powered by a 3.0-liter H6 engine linked to Subaru's symmetrical all-wheel-drive system, arrives this summer in the U.S. B9X will be followed in 2006 by the Saab version, tentatively dubbed 9-6X, which makes its world debut next spring at the New York auto show. Both vehicles will be built at Subaru's plant in Indiana.
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From the side it looks like a Nissan Murano, while the rear is a rip off of an Alfa Romeo.
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Damn that is just not pretty
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