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11-15-2011, 03:49 AM
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^^^ hahaha....
Sly bro....they have already been started LOL
Sly bro....they have already been started LOL
11-15-2011, 06:30 AM
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Shelby Rules! Can I have one? Please.... 
11-15-2011, 09:06 AM
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Jebus. But the better question is it really going to be drivable? I mean even the ZR1 has fun getting its power to the ground.
11-15-2011, 10:17 AM
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HP wars are dead, my @$$. 
11-15-2011, 04:16 PM
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Awesome !!!
About as good as a Mustang can get.
The engine needs to be heard - it is a great sound.
Go hear one near you.
Just wish it had a bit more headroom.
If you are 6' 2" the windshield roof line prevents you
from seeing Red Stop lights.
This simple fact did not matter to at least 1 police officer I meet.
About as good as a Mustang can get.
The engine needs to be heard - it is a great sound.
Go hear one near you.
Just wish it had a bit more headroom.
If you are 6' 2" the windshield roof line prevents you
from seeing Red Stop lights.
This simple fact did not matter to at least 1 police officer I meet.
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11-15-2011, 04:21 PM
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I don't know why but that reminded me of an instance someone was ticketed for their oem, DOT approved, taillights on their Pontiac G8. The officer kept insisting the lights were illegal and when the owner went to court the judge sided with the officer even though all of the evidence the owner had should have proved their innocence.
11-15-2011, 04:23 PM
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Ah...........guys? That horsepower rating?
it's underrated
it's underrated
11-15-2011, 04:34 PM
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11-15-2011, 06:55 PM
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That was uncalled for...
Awesome !!!
About as good as a Mustang can get.
The engine needs to be heard - it is a great sound.
Go hear one near you.
Just wish it had a bit more headroom.
If you are 6' 2" the windshield roof line prevents you
from seeing Red Stop lights.
This simple fact did not matter to at least 1 police officer I meet.
About as good as a Mustang can get.
The engine needs to be heard - it is a great sound.
Go hear one near you.
Just wish it had a bit more headroom.
If you are 6' 2" the windshield roof line prevents you
from seeing Red Stop lights.
This simple fact did not matter to at least 1 police officer I meet.
Regardless... This GT500 is freakin' insane!!!
11-15-2011, 10:00 PM
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11-15-2011, 10:28 PM
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Yes please do!!
11-15-2011, 10:45 PM
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hmm for that price I can get me a 70 mustang or my favorite car i ever wanted 51 merc coupe with a chopped top.
Don't get me wrong nice car and all but for that money I can get me a real classic.
Don't get me wrong nice car and all but for that money I can get me a real classic.
11-15-2011, 11:04 PM
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Oh, just a little info that comes my way from time to time.
Ford's cammer has a lot of potential for high horsepower applications, and the 197 chassis was the only platform developed specifically for the Mustang. It was also designed for various applications throughout the life of the platform.
Ford's cammer has a lot of potential for high horsepower applications, and the 197 chassis was the only platform developed specifically for the Mustang. It was also designed for various applications throughout the life of the platform.
11-16-2011, 08:56 AM
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11-16-2011, 09:32 AM
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Oh, just a little info that comes my way from time to time. Ford's cammer has a lot of potential for high horsepower applications, and the 197 chassis was the only platform developed specifically for the Mustang. It was also designed for various applications throughout the life of the platform.
Ford's cammer has a lot of potential for high horsepower applications, and the 197 chassis was the only platform developed specifically for the Mustang. It was also designed for various applications throughout the life of the platform.
02-09-2012, 10:17 AM
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2013 Shelby GT500 Convertible
Press release...
The official launch of SVT came during the 1992 Chicago Auto Show with the unveiling of the 1993 SVT Mustang Cobra and SVT F-150 Lightning. Now Ford returns to Chicago to celebrate its past and look to the future with the 2013 Shelby GT500 convertible.
In honor of SVT’s anniversary, a commemorative lighted sill plate will be used in the 2013 Shelby GT500 to celebrate the many years of performance vehicles. The 1993 SVT Mustang Cobra offered a 235-horsepower 5.0-liter V8 engine, which demonstrates just how far the products have come in 20 years. The 2013 Shelby GT500 with its 650-horsepower V8 marks the latest offering from one of the oldest and most successful automotive performance groups in the world.
“The Shelby GT500 convertible is every bit the performer that the coupe is,” said Kerry Baldori, SVT Global Performance Vehicles chief engineer. “All of the significant changes we made in the program were instrumental in delivering a convertible that could really shine on the track but can still be driven on a daily basis.”
The 2013 Shelby GT500 convertible with the optional Performance Package is faster around a track than the outgoing model. The new convertible shaved nearly 3.5 seconds off its lap time at Sebring International Raceway compared to the 2011 and 2012 models.
Keys to the improved lap times are the power boost from the new 5.8-liter supercharged V8 producing 650 horsepower, as well as the SVT-designed Bilstein electronic adjustable dampers available on the Performance Package and the all-new chassis tuning.
Accessed on the dash with a simple push of a button, normal mode gives customers a more comfortable ride over road irregularities. Sport mode is all about performance, delivering improved response time on the track and less body roll while cornering with reduced pitch under braking. The upgraded dampers allowed SVT engineers to tune the convertible more aggressively for the track, while still being able to maintain desirable on-road manners.
A new Brembo brake system also is a key enabler in boosting the performance of the convertible. The new brakes offer drivers enhanced stopping power to help keep their car under control, while new six-piston calipers in front along with larger front and rear rotors further improve braking performance. More aggressive brake pads also help the car achieve high deceleration and further robustness for more driver confidence.
20 years of innovation
Each of the more than 210,000 SVT vehicles produced since 1993 has been designed and developed with the four SVT attributes in mind: Performance, Substance, Exclusivity and Value. These hallmarks still guide the brand’s vehicle development today.
“In the past 20 years, SVT has engineered world-class mid-engine supercars, front-wheel-drive performance cars, rear-wheel-drive muscle cars and high-performance on-road and off-road pickup trucks,” said Jamal Hameedi, SVT chief engineer. “There is no other performance house in the world that can match that diverse résumé.”
Since 1993 more than seven different SVT vehicles have been produced, including several versions of the Cobra and Shelby GT500, the F-150 Lightning performance pickup and F-150 SVT Raptor, the SVT Contour sports sedan, plus both three- and five-door versions of the SVT Focus. Special SVT Mustang Cobra R models were made in 1993, 1995 and 2000.
SVT has joined with Team RS in Europe to form the Performance Vehicles Group to devise a strategy for all future global performance Ford cars. The resulting Focus ST is Ford’s first truly global performance car, giving drivers around the world the opportunity to share the exhilarating performance, excellent handling, addictive sound and sporty design Ford’s ST badge represents. The Ford Fiesta ST Concept also signals the next step in Ford’s global performance vehicle strategy and hints at how a future Fiesta ST model might look when it joins the Focus ST in the global small car portfolio.
2013 Ford Shelby GT500
The ultimate Ford Mustang – Shelby GT500 – raises the bar high on performance by delivering 650 horsepower and a track-tested top speed of more than 200 mph. The 5.8-liter supercharged V8 aluminum-block engine produces 650 horsepower and 600 lb.-ft. of torque, making it the most powerful production V8 in the world.
Nearly every part of the powertrain has been optimized for producing the additional horsepower, including a new supercharger, new cross-drilled block and heads, updated camshaft profiles, a new carbon fiber driveshaft and upgraded clutch, transmission and axle.
And nearly every gear on the 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 has been revised to manage the torque and use more of the power in a way that makes it more driver-friendly.
The 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 will be built at AutoAlliance International Plant in Flat Rock, Mich.
In honor of SVT’s anniversary, a commemorative lighted sill plate will be used in the 2013 Shelby GT500 to celebrate the many years of performance vehicles. The 1993 SVT Mustang Cobra offered a 235-horsepower 5.0-liter V8 engine, which demonstrates just how far the products have come in 20 years. The 2013 Shelby GT500 with its 650-horsepower V8 marks the latest offering from one of the oldest and most successful automotive performance groups in the world.
“The Shelby GT500 convertible is every bit the performer that the coupe is,” said Kerry Baldori, SVT Global Performance Vehicles chief engineer. “All of the significant changes we made in the program were instrumental in delivering a convertible that could really shine on the track but can still be driven on a daily basis.”
The 2013 Shelby GT500 convertible with the optional Performance Package is faster around a track than the outgoing model. The new convertible shaved nearly 3.5 seconds off its lap time at Sebring International Raceway compared to the 2011 and 2012 models.
Keys to the improved lap times are the power boost from the new 5.8-liter supercharged V8 producing 650 horsepower, as well as the SVT-designed Bilstein electronic adjustable dampers available on the Performance Package and the all-new chassis tuning.
Accessed on the dash with a simple push of a button, normal mode gives customers a more comfortable ride over road irregularities. Sport mode is all about performance, delivering improved response time on the track and less body roll while cornering with reduced pitch under braking. The upgraded dampers allowed SVT engineers to tune the convertible more aggressively for the track, while still being able to maintain desirable on-road manners.
A new Brembo brake system also is a key enabler in boosting the performance of the convertible. The new brakes offer drivers enhanced stopping power to help keep their car under control, while new six-piston calipers in front along with larger front and rear rotors further improve braking performance. More aggressive brake pads also help the car achieve high deceleration and further robustness for more driver confidence.
20 years of innovation
Each of the more than 210,000 SVT vehicles produced since 1993 has been designed and developed with the four SVT attributes in mind: Performance, Substance, Exclusivity and Value. These hallmarks still guide the brand’s vehicle development today.
“In the past 20 years, SVT has engineered world-class mid-engine supercars, front-wheel-drive performance cars, rear-wheel-drive muscle cars and high-performance on-road and off-road pickup trucks,” said Jamal Hameedi, SVT chief engineer. “There is no other performance house in the world that can match that diverse résumé.”
Since 1993 more than seven different SVT vehicles have been produced, including several versions of the Cobra and Shelby GT500, the F-150 Lightning performance pickup and F-150 SVT Raptor, the SVT Contour sports sedan, plus both three- and five-door versions of the SVT Focus. Special SVT Mustang Cobra R models were made in 1993, 1995 and 2000.
SVT has joined with Team RS in Europe to form the Performance Vehicles Group to devise a strategy for all future global performance Ford cars. The resulting Focus ST is Ford’s first truly global performance car, giving drivers around the world the opportunity to share the exhilarating performance, excellent handling, addictive sound and sporty design Ford’s ST badge represents. The Ford Fiesta ST Concept also signals the next step in Ford’s global performance vehicle strategy and hints at how a future Fiesta ST model might look when it joins the Focus ST in the global small car portfolio.
2013 Ford Shelby GT500
The ultimate Ford Mustang – Shelby GT500 – raises the bar high on performance by delivering 650 horsepower and a track-tested top speed of more than 200 mph. The 5.8-liter supercharged V8 aluminum-block engine produces 650 horsepower and 600 lb.-ft. of torque, making it the most powerful production V8 in the world.
Nearly every part of the powertrain has been optimized for producing the additional horsepower, including a new supercharger, new cross-drilled block and heads, updated camshaft profiles, a new carbon fiber driveshaft and upgraded clutch, transmission and axle.
And nearly every gear on the 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 has been revised to manage the torque and use more of the power in a way that makes it more driver-friendly.
The 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 will be built at AutoAlliance International Plant in Flat Rock, Mich.
02-09-2012, 10:18 AM
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i love it but i hate it.... :donno: why
02-09-2012, 10:41 AM
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You love it because it's crazy fast; you hate it because a base model Mustang driven by a middle-aged woman making $35K a year can pull up next to you at the light and most people can't tell the difference between her base V6 and your GT500.
02-09-2012, 10:48 AM
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^^^ your bang on point bro....also the interior styling....they need to switch it up....
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02-09-2012, 10:51 AM
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Yep; the interior is my biggest turnoff on these cars. One of our former interns has a GT500. When I've ridden in it, I've been laughing out loud with delight when the supercharger makes my head snap back. Then I look at the interior and realize it looks cheap. Totally ruins the notion of me ever purchasing one.
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^^^ exactly....drove a 2011/2012 Mustang GT500 (dont remember)....the outside i was drooling...sat inside and was like "meh".....your again right on target with "such a turn off"....then i fired her up and was lost in that exhaust rumble....but every time i came to a light/full stop....i was like "wish they would have done something about the interior....looks cheap as fu$^$%^$%^"
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02-09-2012, 11:48 AM
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Ford is going to have to fix it. The Camaro interior is just good enough to not detract from the overall experience. The ZL1 is even nicer.
The Mustang interior is a huge letdown and I just cannot get over it. Well, when I say interior I mean the dashboard, HVAC/Radio/Nav parts, and door cards. The rest is good enough.
The Mustang interior is a huge letdown and I just cannot get over it. Well, when I say interior I mean the dashboard, HVAC/Radio/Nav parts, and door cards. The rest is good enough.
02-09-2012, 11:56 AM
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C63 and C250? RS5 and A5?
I'm not trying to argue here...just asking for your perspective on that one.
Personally, I don't think they can tell the difference either.
02-09-2012, 12:14 PM
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Righto...but, here's a question for you: Can the general person tell the difference between a base 5er and an M5? 3er and an M3?
C63 and C250? RS5 and A5?
I'm not trying to argue here...just asking for your perspective on that one.
Personally, I don't think they can tell the difference either.
C63 and C250? RS5 and A5?
I'm not trying to argue here...just asking for your perspective on that one.
Personally, I don't think they can tell the difference either.
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02-09-2012, 12:15 PM
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Ford is going to have to fix it. The Camaro interior is just good enough to not detract from the overall experience. The ZL1 is even nicer.
The Mustang interior is a huge letdown and I just cannot get over it. Well, when I say interior I mean the dashboard, HVAC/Radio/Nav parts, and door cards. The rest is good enough.
The Mustang interior is a huge letdown and I just cannot get over it. Well, when I say interior I mean the dashboard, HVAC/Radio/Nav parts, and door cards. The rest is good enough.
02-09-2012, 12:25 PM
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Ford is going to have to fix it. The Camaro interior is just good enough to not detract from the overall experience. The ZL1 is even nicer.
The Mustang interior is a huge letdown and I just cannot get over it. Well, when I say interior I mean the dashboard, HVAC/Radio/Nav parts, and door cards. The rest is good enough.
The Mustang interior is a huge letdown and I just cannot get over it. Well, when I say interior I mean the dashboard, HVAC/Radio/Nav parts, and door cards. The rest is good enough.
The only shot of it changing is in the 2015 model which should come out in 2014.5. Everyone is expecting Ford to go direct injection and update the suspension to an independent rear. So maybe as they modernize they will upgrade the interior materials and design.
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Righto...but, here's a question for you: Can the general person tell the difference between a base 5er and an M5? 3er and an M3?
C63 and C250? RS5 and A5?
I'm not trying to argue here...just asking for your perspective on that one.
Personally, I don't think they can tell the difference either.
C63 and C250? RS5 and A5?
I'm not trying to argue here...just asking for your perspective on that one.
Personally, I don't think they can tell the difference either.
02-09-2012, 03:00 PM
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That was uncalled for...
I really don't see where this interior hate is coming from... Ok, yes, the base cars get some nasty plastic trim just about everywhere. The premium, and especially the GT500 interiors are fairly attractive. Literally the only piece of plastic anywhere near the dash is the shifter surround. 
Ps. The steering wheel in ANY premium Mustang has to be one of the best out there. The GT500 with alcantra is even more fanstastic.
Ps. The steering wheel in ANY premium Mustang has to be one of the best out there. The GT500 with alcantra is even more fanstastic.
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^^^ it just doesnt have that feeling....
am not saying the interior is nasty....its just not at par with the exterior....
its like a padded bra....looks hot from the outside, until you pop it....aint nothing there to play with
am not saying the interior is nasty....its just not at par with the exterior....
its like a padded bra....looks hot from the outside, until you pop it....aint nothing there to play with
02-09-2012, 04:08 PM
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I really don't see where this interior hate is coming from... Ok, yes, the base cars get some nasty plastic trim just about everywhere. The premium, and especially the GT500 interiors are fairly attractive. Literally the only piece of plastic anywhere near the dash is the shifter surround.
P.S. The steering wheel in ANY premium Mustang has to be one of the best out there. The GT500 with alcantra is even more fanstastic.
P.S. The steering wheel in ANY premium Mustang has to be one of the best out there. The GT500 with alcantra is even more fanstastic.
The design is generally ok. I'm not a huge fan of the design of the HVAC/Audio stack but that's not really my biggest gripe.
The car is a sea of cheap hard plastic. And yes, I understand that every car has hard plastic in it for varying reasons. The door cards do not have any kind of break in the hard plastic. It's been formed from a press as a single panel and sadly it looks cheap. As I mentioned in my car show thread the Boss 302 has some very nice parts to it like the seats and steering wheel. I loved them. But some other parts ...
If you look at a 2013 Focus ST and the 2013 Mustang you'll see two very different interior quality levels that I simply cannot explain.
Ford has done a sort of rubber coating over their dashboard and door cards that makes the Focus interior seem nicer. Not an Audi/BMW nice but it's not supposed to be ... But more than that the design itself has a some very nice touches that really make it stand out above the Mustang for me.
Really what I'm trying to say here is that I want the Mustang to be a better car. I really like it and what it can do. But if I'm going to spend $40k-$42k on a Boss 302 or Mustang GT I really demand more than they're delivering right now.
I realize that the Focus interior and Mustang interiors shouldn't look the same. The market is different. But shouldn't they both be of the same quality?
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02-09-2012, 11:10 PM
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That was uncalled for...
The two arrows on the right of your diagram are wrong
The one that points to "hard plastic" isn't plastic at all. It's the typical soft foam dash material and it's like that all the way from door to door. Yes, in the picture you posted is looks like unevenly textured plastic, but it's not.
The upper one pointing to the aluminum looking trim - I'm not sure how it's done in the GT500 or Boss but in my car it's damn near impossible to tell that it's not real aluminum. In fact, I'm still not convinced it's plastic. On a cold morning the entire "aluminum" section feels like a cold piece of steel.
As for the door panel - I will not argue this one. It is indeed one big piece of plastic. The only redeeming quality is that it's attractive.
I know I might come off as a bit of a fan boy here but I'm just trying to clear some of these things up.
The one that points to "hard plastic" isn't plastic at all. It's the typical soft foam dash material and it's like that all the way from door to door. Yes, in the picture you posted is looks like unevenly textured plastic, but it's not.
The upper one pointing to the aluminum looking trim - I'm not sure how it's done in the GT500 or Boss but in my car it's damn near impossible to tell that it's not real aluminum. In fact, I'm still not convinced it's plastic. On a cold morning the entire "aluminum" section feels like a cold piece of steel.
As for the door panel - I will not argue this one. It is indeed one big piece of plastic. The only redeeming quality is that it's attractive.
I know I might come off as a bit of a fan boy here but I'm just trying to clear some of these things up.
02-09-2012, 11:13 PM
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^^^ SACHO all he means is: they could do a better job of designing the interior....
i mean the exterior looks HAWT as FAWK !!! if they only designed it a little more "plush" like the 2013 focus....i would be all over that car....
i mean the exterior looks HAWT as FAWK !!! if they only designed it a little more "plush" like the 2013 focus....i would be all over that car....
02-10-2012, 07:50 AM
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That was uncalled for...
I was just pointing out the things he pointed out weren't exactly true.
02-10-2012, 11:57 AM
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The two arrows on the right of your diagram are wrong
The one that points to "hard plastic" isn't plastic at all. It's the typical soft foam dash material and it's like that all the way from door to door. Yes, in the picture you posted is looks like unevenly textured plastic, but it's not.
The upper one pointing to the aluminum looking trim - I'm not sure how it's done in the GT500 or Boss but in my car it's damn near impossible to tell that it's not real aluminum. In fact, I'm still not convinced it's plastic. On a cold morning the entire "aluminum" section feels like a cold piece of steel.
As for the door panel - I will not argue this one. It is indeed one big piece of plastic. The only redeeming quality is that it's attractive.
I know I might come off as a bit of a fan boy here but I'm just trying to clear some of these things up.
The one that points to "hard plastic" isn't plastic at all. It's the typical soft foam dash material and it's like that all the way from door to door. Yes, in the picture you posted is looks like unevenly textured plastic, but it's not.
The upper one pointing to the aluminum looking trim - I'm not sure how it's done in the GT500 or Boss but in my car it's damn near impossible to tell that it's not real aluminum. In fact, I'm still not convinced it's plastic. On a cold morning the entire "aluminum" section feels like a cold piece of steel.
As for the door panel - I will not argue this one. It is indeed one big piece of plastic. The only redeeming quality is that it's attractive.
I know I might come off as a bit of a fan boy here but I'm just trying to clear some of these things up.
If the lower dash is "soft foam" as you put it, it's impossible to tell sitting in the car ... With it right in front of my face. That is a problem
I know you own the car and I don't. But I spent five minutes sitting in a Boss 302 and I'm convinced I'm right about that particular car.
02-10-2012, 02:23 PM
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Anyone who thinks that the current interior of the Mustang isn't long overdue for a change is smoking something really good.
It's the last interior that Ford has not revised. It looks cheap...even if some of the materials are not. The design looks straight out of the parts bin/rental fleet.
I like the Mustang....don't get me wrong, but the interior has always been it's big downside.
I guarantee the next gen interior will be nothing like the current one. It will be a knockout....just like the rest of Ford's products.
You'll see.
It's the last interior that Ford has not revised. It looks cheap...even if some of the materials are not. The design looks straight out of the parts bin/rental fleet.
I like the Mustang....don't get me wrong, but the interior has always been it's big downside.
I guarantee the next gen interior will be nothing like the current one. It will be a knockout....just like the rest of Ford's products.
You'll see.