Saleen: S7 News **Rights to Car For Sale (page 1)**
01-11-2005, 01:20 PM
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Saleen: S7 News **Rights to Car For Sale (page 1)**
Wow...Just wow...
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2005 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo
When it went on sale in 2002, the S7 was the only street-legal car in the U.S. with more than 500 horsepower and 500 lb-ft of torque. The media and S7 owners have raved about the car and it has been recognized by numerous automotive magazines as the fastest American production car in the world.
But during the past three years the automobile marketplace has witnessed an explosion of performance with models from manufacturers including Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche and Chevrolet touting power numbers above the once magic 500 level. Saleen is not an organization content to rest on yesterday's 0-60 mph times or quarter-mile speeds. So for 2005 it's ''all hail the S7 Twin Turbo!''
This is the first major change to the S7 since its introduction, and it is a BIG change as in 750 horsepower and 700 lb-ft of torque, numbers the competition will be chasing for a long while we predict.
What's New for 2005
It was pretty obvious to Saleen product planners during the late 1990s that horsepower and torque numbers were trending upwards, especially among the
purveyors of supercars. And power figures that looked spectacular at that time might seem quite ordinary a few years down the road. So Saleen engineers have been planning for this day since they drew the first line on a computer screen for the original S7's 7-liter engine.
Aerodynamics has also come under scrutiny for 2005. Unless you place the new S7 Twin Turbo next to one of the original 2002 models, you probably won't notice that the 2005 version has a different diffuser/rear spoiler package and reshaped front fenders to enhance the S7s already sleek, swoopy and aerodynamic contours. For the 2005 S7 Twin Turbo, the redesigned front and rear diffusers, along with the new rear spoiler, result in a 40 percent reduction in aero drag and a 60 percent increase in down force.
To complement the Twin Turbo's enhanced straight-line performance envelope The S7 chassis has also undergone a fair amount of tweaking. Virtually every suspension pickup point has been changed, and the suspension geometry has been modified for less squat and dive during acceleration and braking.
To further improve driving comfort and ergonomics, the S7 Twin Turbo incorporates a revised pedal box. The clutch and throttle lever ratios pedals have been changed for lighter pedal efforts. In addition, the three pedals have been spaced farther apart without impinging upon the dead pedal.
Engine & Drivetrain
The new all-aluminum V8 engine casting was engineered and tooled by Saleen to displace seven liters. Space age materials and engineering are used throughout, including stainless steel valves, titanium retainers, beryllium exhaust valve seats, an aluminum throttle body, Saleen-designed aluminum CNC-machined cylinder heads and stainless steel exhaust system. The V8 incorporates a unique Saleen-designed side-mounted water pump, a belt-driven camshaft drive and a Saleen-engineered dry sump oil delivery system.
The engine's mid-chassis placement optimizes weight distribution and makes room for an unusually tall engine that allows for a very efficient induction system. Air enters a roof intake, passes through a 90-mm mass air meter and feeds into a carbon fiber plenum. From the plenum the air is routed to the twin ball bearing turbos, is pressurized to 5.5 psi max and then passes through an oval-bore throttle body into an aluminum intake manifold with eight individual runners.
To feed juice to this setup, the injection system includes dual electric fuel pumps and high-capacity, return-less, 52 lb/hr fuel injectors. Neatly engineered and integrated into the S7's stainless steel, dual, high-flow exhaust system are two, twin-ball-bearing, water-cooled Saleen-Garrett turbos, featuring 44-mm wastegates. The four exhaust pipes from each bank of cylinders merge into a race-car-like high-efficiency collector. In addition, the exhaust incorporates dual catalysts per cylinder bank, EGR and those aforementioned twin wastegates.
And because Saleen believes in power and clean air, the emission control system features dual, heated oxygen sensors per cylinder bank and a high-volume evaporative emission system along with those four catalysts. Oh, and for good measure and clean air, the system is OBD-II compliant.
One of the few internal changes to the twin-turbo engine is a swap from hydraulic to solid lifters. This change allows the engine to rev higher and harder. Also, as is typical with turbocharged engines, the compression ratio has been lowered. It drops from a very high 12.0:1 in the previous naturally aspirated V8 to a still high 11.0:1. And for increased durability, Saleen engineers also added oil squirters to cool the undersides of the pistons.
A new-generation six-speed transaxle, with a unique Saleen bell housing, transfers power to the wheels. The clutch is an organic/metallic 8.0-inch, twin-plate unit with hydraulic actuation.
Chassis, Suspension & Brakes
A major improvement in ride is achieved for 2005 with the use of coil springs that are a dual-stage design. The first spring has a lower rate than the single springs fitted to the current S7, resulting in softer ride during normal street driving. But if you remember your history, you know that the S7 is a flat-bottom, downforce car. The faster you go, the more downforce the S7 develops. In the case of the S7?s new dual-stage springs, the second stiffer spring starts coming into play at around 100 mph when the car begins to develop serious downforce.
Chassis tuning also includes revised shock valving front and rear. Saleen-engineered Brembo-supplied lightweight aluminum six-piston mono-block
calipers are fitted front and rear. The brakes are among the largest of any production car with 15-inch vented discs up front and 14-inch vented discs at the rear.
Geometry changes, along with new tires, result in about a 30 percent increase in mechanical grip . . . which is substantial. In a seeming contradiction to current performance tire practice, the 2005 S7 Twin Turbo is fitted with taller tires, 275/35R19s up front and 335/30R20s at the rear. While the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires have higher aspect ratios, they also lay tire patches that are 1.5 inches wider at the rear.
Conclusion
None of the S7's major supercar competitors, such as the Ferrari Enzo, the McLaren F1 and the Maserati MC12, are a match for the S7 Twin Turbo's prodigious horsepower and torque figures: All are at least 100 bhp and more than 200 lb-ft in arrears of the S7. Chalk up another victory for good old American V8 engine ingenuity.
It's also no contest when it comes to price. The Manufacturer?s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the 2005 S7 Twin Turbo is $555,000. That's $100,000 less than an Enzo (which is out of production and escalating in price) and nearly $300,000 fewer dollars than the Maserati. And you could have Her and His S7s for the price of the McLaren F1!
Story by Saleen Inc
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2005 Saleen S7 Twin Turbo
When it went on sale in 2002, the S7 was the only street-legal car in the U.S. with more than 500 horsepower and 500 lb-ft of torque. The media and S7 owners have raved about the car and it has been recognized by numerous automotive magazines as the fastest American production car in the world.
But during the past three years the automobile marketplace has witnessed an explosion of performance with models from manufacturers including Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mercedes-Benz, Porsche and Chevrolet touting power numbers above the once magic 500 level. Saleen is not an organization content to rest on yesterday's 0-60 mph times or quarter-mile speeds. So for 2005 it's ''all hail the S7 Twin Turbo!''
This is the first major change to the S7 since its introduction, and it is a BIG change as in 750 horsepower and 700 lb-ft of torque, numbers the competition will be chasing for a long while we predict.
What's New for 2005
It was pretty obvious to Saleen product planners during the late 1990s that horsepower and torque numbers were trending upwards, especially among the
purveyors of supercars. And power figures that looked spectacular at that time might seem quite ordinary a few years down the road. So Saleen engineers have been planning for this day since they drew the first line on a computer screen for the original S7's 7-liter engine.
Aerodynamics has also come under scrutiny for 2005. Unless you place the new S7 Twin Turbo next to one of the original 2002 models, you probably won't notice that the 2005 version has a different diffuser/rear spoiler package and reshaped front fenders to enhance the S7s already sleek, swoopy and aerodynamic contours. For the 2005 S7 Twin Turbo, the redesigned front and rear diffusers, along with the new rear spoiler, result in a 40 percent reduction in aero drag and a 60 percent increase in down force.
To complement the Twin Turbo's enhanced straight-line performance envelope The S7 chassis has also undergone a fair amount of tweaking. Virtually every suspension pickup point has been changed, and the suspension geometry has been modified for less squat and dive during acceleration and braking.
To further improve driving comfort and ergonomics, the S7 Twin Turbo incorporates a revised pedal box. The clutch and throttle lever ratios pedals have been changed for lighter pedal efforts. In addition, the three pedals have been spaced farther apart without impinging upon the dead pedal.
Engine & Drivetrain
The new all-aluminum V8 engine casting was engineered and tooled by Saleen to displace seven liters. Space age materials and engineering are used throughout, including stainless steel valves, titanium retainers, beryllium exhaust valve seats, an aluminum throttle body, Saleen-designed aluminum CNC-machined cylinder heads and stainless steel exhaust system. The V8 incorporates a unique Saleen-designed side-mounted water pump, a belt-driven camshaft drive and a Saleen-engineered dry sump oil delivery system.
The engine's mid-chassis placement optimizes weight distribution and makes room for an unusually tall engine that allows for a very efficient induction system. Air enters a roof intake, passes through a 90-mm mass air meter and feeds into a carbon fiber plenum. From the plenum the air is routed to the twin ball bearing turbos, is pressurized to 5.5 psi max and then passes through an oval-bore throttle body into an aluminum intake manifold with eight individual runners.
To feed juice to this setup, the injection system includes dual electric fuel pumps and high-capacity, return-less, 52 lb/hr fuel injectors. Neatly engineered and integrated into the S7's stainless steel, dual, high-flow exhaust system are two, twin-ball-bearing, water-cooled Saleen-Garrett turbos, featuring 44-mm wastegates. The four exhaust pipes from each bank of cylinders merge into a race-car-like high-efficiency collector. In addition, the exhaust incorporates dual catalysts per cylinder bank, EGR and those aforementioned twin wastegates.
And because Saleen believes in power and clean air, the emission control system features dual, heated oxygen sensors per cylinder bank and a high-volume evaporative emission system along with those four catalysts. Oh, and for good measure and clean air, the system is OBD-II compliant.
One of the few internal changes to the twin-turbo engine is a swap from hydraulic to solid lifters. This change allows the engine to rev higher and harder. Also, as is typical with turbocharged engines, the compression ratio has been lowered. It drops from a very high 12.0:1 in the previous naturally aspirated V8 to a still high 11.0:1. And for increased durability, Saleen engineers also added oil squirters to cool the undersides of the pistons.
A new-generation six-speed transaxle, with a unique Saleen bell housing, transfers power to the wheels. The clutch is an organic/metallic 8.0-inch, twin-plate unit with hydraulic actuation.
Chassis, Suspension & Brakes
A major improvement in ride is achieved for 2005 with the use of coil springs that are a dual-stage design. The first spring has a lower rate than the single springs fitted to the current S7, resulting in softer ride during normal street driving. But if you remember your history, you know that the S7 is a flat-bottom, downforce car. The faster you go, the more downforce the S7 develops. In the case of the S7?s new dual-stage springs, the second stiffer spring starts coming into play at around 100 mph when the car begins to develop serious downforce.
Chassis tuning also includes revised shock valving front and rear. Saleen-engineered Brembo-supplied lightweight aluminum six-piston mono-block
calipers are fitted front and rear. The brakes are among the largest of any production car with 15-inch vented discs up front and 14-inch vented discs at the rear.
Geometry changes, along with new tires, result in about a 30 percent increase in mechanical grip . . . which is substantial. In a seeming contradiction to current performance tire practice, the 2005 S7 Twin Turbo is fitted with taller tires, 275/35R19s up front and 335/30R20s at the rear. While the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 tires have higher aspect ratios, they also lay tire patches that are 1.5 inches wider at the rear.
Conclusion
None of the S7's major supercar competitors, such as the Ferrari Enzo, the McLaren F1 and the Maserati MC12, are a match for the S7 Twin Turbo's prodigious horsepower and torque figures: All are at least 100 bhp and more than 200 lb-ft in arrears of the S7. Chalk up another victory for good old American V8 engine ingenuity.
It's also no contest when it comes to price. The Manufacturer?s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) for the 2005 S7 Twin Turbo is $555,000. That's $100,000 less than an Enzo (which is out of production and escalating in price) and nearly $300,000 fewer dollars than the Maserati. And you could have Her and His S7s for the price of the McLaren F1!
Story by Saleen Inc
01-11-2005, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TSX 'R' US
Sexy 
01-11-2005, 01:56 PM
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the fastest American production car in the world
Who else can produce an American car other than America?????
In other news, China is leading the world in Chinese exports.
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01-11-2005, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Minch00
Too bad the SL65 AMG outpasses the torque number already...........
yea but weighs how much more? Also turbo is running at 5.5psi!!!!!!! That's nothing. I think i the pressure of my farts are more than 5.5psi.
01-11-2005, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
yea but weighs how much more? Also turbo is running at 5.5psi!!!!!!! That's nothing. I think i the pressure of my farts are more than 5.5psi.
This is only a V8!!
i want one i want one
even if its just for a 1 hour test drive.. 
01-11-2005, 05:23 PM
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I'd drive one.
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Originally Posted by Minch00
Too bad the SL65 AMG outpasses the torque number already...........
01-13-2005, 12:07 PM
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i dont care what anyone says, that car is way sexier than the McLaren F1. I have friends who argue with me about this all the time. I can't wait to rub this in.
01-13-2005, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bigman
i dont care what anyone says, that car is way sexier than the McLaren F1. I have friends who argue with me about this all the time. I can't wait to rub this in.
And unfortunately, I think it boils down to the fact that the Saleen is North American...A good car is a good car.
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They have to improve everything on this car to beat the C6-R and the Ferrari.
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Damn...that's some serious power. That thing must be a beast...
Wonder how this will affect it running in the GTS class for LeMans?
Wonder how this will affect it running in the GTS class for LeMans?
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why do u need to own a race track to like this car? u can just take this car to the race track....anywhoo, if anyone can afford to own this car, they can own a race track tooo
03-22-2006, 12:30 AM
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10.9 @ 140
248 mph (mfr est)
1.04g
click link for full info.
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....ticle_id=10769
and this is "just" the 750hp model..... wait til the 1000hp comes out... 
248 mph (mfr est)
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http://www.caranddriver.com/article....ticle_id=10769
Do it right, and you’ll scorch the quarter-mile in 10.9 seconds at 140 mph. We hit 60 mph in 3.4 seconds, 100 mph in 6.2, and 160 mph, which was as fast as we could go at the short track placed at our disposal, in 15.6 seconds. The S7 Twin Turbo has enough power to easily get below three seconds to 60, but despite trying about a dozen full-power launches, which bothered the car not one whit, such a time needs a higher-traction surface than we had available.
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160 in 15.6.......................that's possible!?!?!??!?! 
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That thing needs racing slicks, it would be in the low 10's easily with a 140MPH trap speed. BTW, it got the same trap speed as the Veyron C&D tested, but the Veyron was .1s quicker in the 1/4 mile. Can't wait for the 1K HP S7!
07-23-2015, 11:05 AM
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Rights to the S7!
Source: Here's Your Chance To Own The Rights To The Saleen S7 Supercar
The Saleen S7 was one of the automotive highlights of the early 21st century, a rare instance where a small American firm managed to take on the established European players. It was only made between 2000 and 2004, but now there's an opportunity to own not just an example of this rare beast, but all of the rights associated with making it.
A company called GA Global Partners claims to be selling the intellectual property and all associated parts and designs for the S7, S7R, and the never-produced S5S Raptor supercars. So while you can't order a new Saleen S7 anymore, it seems like it might be possible to build one from scratch again with this arrangement.
The sale will encompass "all remaining inventory, parts, memorabilia, molds, designs, and intellectual property" associated with the S7, S7R, and S5S Raptor. That includes six leftover S7 and S7R chassis, and the actual S5S concept car Saleen brought around to auto shows before the project went bust.
All items are said to have been "kept in safe storage for the past five years," and interested buyers can inquire about placing a bid. Unfortunately, neither an estimated price or reserve was mentioned.
After years of building a reputation tuning Ford Mustangs, Saleen entered the supercar realm with the S7 in 2000. The car featured a 7.0-liter V-8 with 550 horsepower, and a lightweight space-frame chassis with carbon fiber bodywork. An S7 Twin-Turbo version appeared later, with as much as 750 hp. The S7R was a racing version that competed in numerous international events—including the 24 Hours of Le Mans—and reportedly winning nearly 30 poles.
The S5S Raptor was unveiled at the 2008 New York Auto Show as a possible successor to the S7. It used a supercharged 5.0-liter V-8 that could run on E85 ethanol, and produce 650 hp. However, the concept arrived just before the 2008 financial crisis, which dampened the market for high-end cars.
Much of this happened without founder Steve Saleen at the helm. He left his namesake company in 2007, started SMS Supercars, and got back into his old groove of tuning late-model muscle cars. He regained control of Saleen in 2012.
More recently, the company has shown a modified 2015 Mustang called the S302, as well as a tuned version of the Tesla Model S. But as of late last year, Saleen appeared to be in financial trouble, incurring an operating loss of $3 million and defaulting on some obligations, according to its own financial statements.
A company called GA Global Partners claims to be selling the intellectual property and all associated parts and designs for the S7, S7R, and the never-produced S5S Raptor supercars. So while you can't order a new Saleen S7 anymore, it seems like it might be possible to build one from scratch again with this arrangement.
The sale will encompass "all remaining inventory, parts, memorabilia, molds, designs, and intellectual property" associated with the S7, S7R, and S5S Raptor. That includes six leftover S7 and S7R chassis, and the actual S5S concept car Saleen brought around to auto shows before the project went bust.
All items are said to have been "kept in safe storage for the past five years," and interested buyers can inquire about placing a bid. Unfortunately, neither an estimated price or reserve was mentioned.
After years of building a reputation tuning Ford Mustangs, Saleen entered the supercar realm with the S7 in 2000. The car featured a 7.0-liter V-8 with 550 horsepower, and a lightweight space-frame chassis with carbon fiber bodywork. An S7 Twin-Turbo version appeared later, with as much as 750 hp. The S7R was a racing version that competed in numerous international events—including the 24 Hours of Le Mans—and reportedly winning nearly 30 poles.
The S5S Raptor was unveiled at the 2008 New York Auto Show as a possible successor to the S7. It used a supercharged 5.0-liter V-8 that could run on E85 ethanol, and produce 650 hp. However, the concept arrived just before the 2008 financial crisis, which dampened the market for high-end cars.
Much of this happened without founder Steve Saleen at the helm. He left his namesake company in 2007, started SMS Supercars, and got back into his old groove of tuning late-model muscle cars. He regained control of Saleen in 2012.
More recently, the company has shown a modified 2015 Mustang called the S302, as well as a tuned version of the Tesla Model S. But as of late last year, Saleen appeared to be in financial trouble, incurring an operating loss of $3 million and defaulting on some obligations, according to its own financial statements.
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https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...-mph-top-speed
The Saleen S7 is like a horror movie serial killer that the protagonist just can't kill.
Jiangsu Secco Automobile Technology Corporation, which is overseeing Saleen's launch in China as a high-volume performance brand, has announced the nearly 20-year old supercar will once again return, but with even more incredible specs
Recall, the S7 bowed in 2000. The original car made 550 horsepower, though a pair of turbos attached to Ford's 7.0-liter Windsor V-8 in 2005 pushed that to 750 hp. In 2017, Saleen launched an S7 Le Mans version, limited to just seven units and promised with 1,300 hp.
Now, Saleen has shown a new S7 Le Mans with 1,500 horsepower, or enough to hit a claimed top speed of 298 mph. Oh, and 0-62 mph will happen in 2.2 seconds, supposedly. Production will be limited, but whether that means 7 or 70 cars, we don't know.
The return of the S7 is meant to bolster Saleen's launch in China, which took place at Beijing's Bird's Nest stadium and was attended by Saleen founder and namesake Steve Saleen, British actor Jason Statham, and a number of local celebrities. There, Saleen also showed off the current S1 sports car alongside new models that included a 400-hp SUV and an electric minicar.
Jiangsu Secco Automobile Technology Corporation, which is overseeing Saleen's launch in China as a high-volume performance brand, has announced the nearly 20-year old supercar will once again return, but with even more incredible specs
Recall, the S7 bowed in 2000. The original car made 550 horsepower, though a pair of turbos attached to Ford's 7.0-liter Windsor V-8 in 2005 pushed that to 750 hp. In 2017, Saleen launched an S7 Le Mans version, limited to just seven units and promised with 1,300 hp.
Now, Saleen has shown a new S7 Le Mans with 1,500 horsepower, or enough to hit a claimed top speed of 298 mph. Oh, and 0-62 mph will happen in 2.2 seconds, supposedly. Production will be limited, but whether that means 7 or 70 cars, we don't know.
The return of the S7 is meant to bolster Saleen's launch in China, which took place at Beijing's Bird's Nest stadium and was attended by Saleen founder and namesake Steve Saleen, British actor Jason Statham, and a number of local celebrities. There, Saleen also showed off the current S1 sports car alongside new models that included a 400-hp SUV and an electric minicar.
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