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#121
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Originally Posted by 03silvertypeS
This is pretty surprising because regardless of where most of their sales take place, the NAIAS is one of the most publicized (if not, THE most publicized) of the Auto shows in the U.S. Even though I don't think pulling out will effect their sales, it would help get their newest designs out in public eye accross the country. The NAIAS is definitely a good medium for advertising, especially considering how much media coverage it gets.
Exactly. This is quite shocking IMO. Lets hope others don't follow suit.
#124
The sizzle in the Steak
@ Detroit!!!!
#125
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Heck, most automakers probably don't have to go to the autoshows at all.. Just invite all the interweb sites to come take pics and call it a day. It's not like autoshows are as important as they were before there was an internet
The times, they are a changing...
The times, they are a changing...
#127
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Damn if Detroit didnt have it bad enough as it is. Their auto show is known as one of the best... but now..
Actually the Chicago show is larger and better IMO. The only thing Detroit had going for it was new car releases were generally shown at the Detroit show...
I think that's going to change though... I bet NY, Chicago or LA will take over.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
True, thanks to gavriil, I actually get kinda bored going to auto shows now. I already know what they have months before they do!
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Originally Posted by SiGGy
Actually the Chicago show is larger and better IMO. The only thing Detroit had going for it was new car releases were generally shown at the Detroit show...
I think that's going to change though... I bet NY, Chicago or LA will take over.
I think that's going to change though... I bet NY, Chicago or LA will take over.
#130
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Detroit used to be the Big Daddy of the shows in North America and now it will be overshadowed by the other big cities (LA, Chicago, NY). Before, all the premieres were in Detroit ... but now marketers realize it's better to spread them out so people talk about your cars longer.
Porsche's decision is not suprising -- cheap ass (aka 'efficient) Germans more concerned with targeting their funds to where their customers are. Guess their shareholders will be happy? I certainly feel ripped off. What am I going to see in that corner where the escalators are to the basement?
Porsche's decision is not suprising -- cheap ass (aka 'efficient) Germans more concerned with targeting their funds to where their customers are. Guess their shareholders will be happy? I certainly feel ripped off. What am I going to see in that corner where the escalators are to the basement?
#131
I feel the need...
Originally Posted by derrick
Detroit used to be the Big Daddy of the shows in North America and now it will be overshadowed by the other big cities (LA, Chicago, NY). Before, all the premieres were in Detroit ...
#132
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I don't think the Silverdome would be an option, would it?
In comparison, it's almost embarrassing to see how large a venue the Toronto Autoshow is ... and the lack of cars to fill up that space. Detroit could use convention space like that! But where would they build it? I suppose they could tear down a bunch of crack houses in the 'bad' part of town to erect the new convention center ...
In comparison, it's almost embarrassing to see how large a venue the Toronto Autoshow is ... and the lack of cars to fill up that space. Detroit could use convention space like that! But where would they build it? I suppose they could tear down a bunch of crack houses in the 'bad' part of town to erect the new convention center ...
#133
I feel the need...
Originally Posted by derrick
But where would they build it? I suppose they could tear down a bunch of crack houses in the 'bad' part of town to erect the new convention center ...
#135
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Heck, most automakers probably don't have to go to the autoshows at all.. Just invite all the interweb sites to come take pics and call it a day. It's not like autoshows are as important as they were before there was an internet
The times, they are a changing...
The times, they are a changing...
Additionally, it makes sense for Porsche to place a higher emphasis on Los Angeles not only due to the highest volume of sales being concentrated in LA, but also because the LA Auto Show was moved to December so that it wouldn't compete against Detroit in January.
#136
Porsche Wins Overall Brand Status Among The Affluent
http://publications.mediapost.com/in...&art_aid=83731
Pedraza says that in addition to the top three, others that did well include Acura and Infiniti. He says the Cadillac product has scored well, but "consumers are ambivalent because it has been inconsistent, for several reasons. It's inconsistent in terms of prestige. Consumers have a clearer perception of what a brand like Lexus is. Cadillac is still bouncing around in ratings."
In terms of customer experience, the Institute rated Lexus No. 1, and Acura and Infiniti were second and third. And tied were Volvo, BMW, Audi and Cadillac. "In the previous year, Cadillac was No. 1."
#138
Interesting.... Cadillac was last year's #1? And this publication has Acura and Infiniti in the top 3, with Audi being up there too. Didn't another thread with a similar survey rank Acura and Audi in the bottom 3?
Luck of the draw I guess
wait, I actually read the link... it says
More confusing.... Jaguar = 5th?
Luck of the draw I guess
wait, I actually read the link... it says
For overall brand status, Porsche got the most votes, with Lexus and Mercedes ranking second and third, respectively. Mercedes has been working hard in the post-Chrysler era to rebuild its status and appeal to younger, performance-oriented luxury-car buyers.
Also included in the ratings were Acura, Audi, BMW, Cadillac, Infiniti, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lincoln, and Volvo. BMW ranked fourth, Jaguar fifth, and Lincoln was last of the 12 brands covered, in terms of overall status.
Also included in the ratings were Acura, Audi, BMW, Cadillac, Infiniti, Jaguar, Land Rover, Lincoln, and Volvo. BMW ranked fourth, Jaguar fifth, and Lincoln was last of the 12 brands covered, in terms of overall status.
#139
Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
Interesting.... Cadillac was last year's #1? And this publication has Acura and Infiniti in the top 3, with Audi being up there too. Didn't another thread with a similar survey rank Acura and Audi in the bottom 3?
Luck of the draw I guess
wait, I actually read the link... it says
More confusing.... Jaguar = 5th?
Luck of the draw I guess
wait, I actually read the link... it says
More confusing.... Jaguar = 5th?
The New York-based firm rolled out a ranking of luxury-vehicle brands preferred by affluent consumers. The rankings are based on its Luxury Brand Status Index, an online survey of 1,642 wealthy American consumers with an average income of $349,000 and average net worth of $3.7 million.
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Porsche: Nissan Falsified GT-R Lap Time **GT3 Reaches 7:40 Unofficially (page 5)**
http://carsguide.news.com.au/site/mo...t_nurburgring/
oh snappp
Porsche has accused Nissan of cheating in the GT-R's record bid at the Nurburgring racetrack.
Porsche has just run its own back-to-back tests with the Japanese company's GT-R supercar and says it could not get within 25 seconds of Nissan's claimed record time of seven minutes 29 seconds in April.
It also found its 911 Turbo and GT2 were both quicker than the GT-R.
"This wonder car with 7:29 could not have been a regular series production car," says August Achleitner, the 911 product chief for Porsche, speaking to the CARSguide at the Australian press preview of the latest 911 Cabrio.
"For us, it's not clear how this time is possible. What we can imagine with this Nissan is they used other tyres."
He believes the time achieved by Nissan with ex-Formula One driver Toshio Suzuki would only be possible with a semi-slick race-style tyre.
Achleitner says Porsche took a standard GT-R, running on regular road tyres, and ran it around the Nurburgring within two hours of its own cars, on the same day with exactly the same weather conditions.
He says there was no tweaking of any kind and the GT2 and Turbo both ran on regular Porsche road tyres, the Michelin Sport Cup.
"We bought the car in the US. We drove a GT-R with new tyres," he says.
Achleitner was initially protective of the exact lap times, which were run during a program when Porsche also compared its upcoming four-door Panamera with a range of potential rivals.
But he eventually revealed his team clocked the GT-R at 7 minutes 54 seconds, with the 911 Turbo managing 7:38 and the GT2 getting down to 7:34.
The laps were not run by Porsche's usual hot-lap specialist, former world rally champion and race winner Walter Rohrl, but one of the company's chassis development engineers who is an expert on the Nurburgring.
Achleitner says the back-to-back comparison was run because Porsche was concerned by Nissan's claims for the GT-R, which is heavier than the 911 with similar power.
"The Nissan is a good car. I don't want to make anything bad with my words," he says.
"It's a very consistent car. But this car is about 20 kilos heavier than the Turbo . . ."
In the end, Porsche believes its testing has achieved the right lap times for the Skyline GT-R and benchmarked it against its own 911 heroes in the right context.
"For us it has been clearly the result. This technical puzzle now fits together. With the other numbers we had problems to understand it," he says.
Porsche has just run its own back-to-back tests with the Japanese company's GT-R supercar and says it could not get within 25 seconds of Nissan's claimed record time of seven minutes 29 seconds in April.
It also found its 911 Turbo and GT2 were both quicker than the GT-R.
"This wonder car with 7:29 could not have been a regular series production car," says August Achleitner, the 911 product chief for Porsche, speaking to the CARSguide at the Australian press preview of the latest 911 Cabrio.
"For us, it's not clear how this time is possible. What we can imagine with this Nissan is they used other tyres."
He believes the time achieved by Nissan with ex-Formula One driver Toshio Suzuki would only be possible with a semi-slick race-style tyre.
Achleitner says Porsche took a standard GT-R, running on regular road tyres, and ran it around the Nurburgring within two hours of its own cars, on the same day with exactly the same weather conditions.
He says there was no tweaking of any kind and the GT2 and Turbo both ran on regular Porsche road tyres, the Michelin Sport Cup.
"We bought the car in the US. We drove a GT-R with new tyres," he says.
Achleitner was initially protective of the exact lap times, which were run during a program when Porsche also compared its upcoming four-door Panamera with a range of potential rivals.
But he eventually revealed his team clocked the GT-R at 7 minutes 54 seconds, with the 911 Turbo managing 7:38 and the GT2 getting down to 7:34.
The laps were not run by Porsche's usual hot-lap specialist, former world rally champion and race winner Walter Rohrl, but one of the company's chassis development engineers who is an expert on the Nurburgring.
Achleitner says the back-to-back comparison was run because Porsche was concerned by Nissan's claims for the GT-R, which is heavier than the 911 with similar power.
"The Nissan is a good car. I don't want to make anything bad with my words," he says.
"It's a very consistent car. But this car is about 20 kilos heavier than the Turbo . . ."
In the end, Porsche believes its testing has achieved the right lap times for the Skyline GT-R and benchmarked it against its own 911 heroes in the right context.
"For us it has been clearly the result. This technical puzzle now fits together. With the other numbers we had problems to understand it," he says.
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Nissan is also cheating America with these ridiculous markups on GT-R orders!
Also, apparently, if you use launch control, your warranty is void. Nissan has great confidence in this vehicle.
http://www.fquick.com/blog/Launch_co...warranty_/2047
Nissan is full of Sh*t!!!!!
Also, apparently, if you use launch control, your warranty is void. Nissan has great confidence in this vehicle.
http://www.fquick.com/blog/Launch_co...warranty_/2047
Nissan is full of Sh*t!!!!!
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https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/dealer-employees-caught-drag-racing-gtr-gld-688729/
I expected lower numbers.
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Originally Posted by black label
Porsche's launch control on the PDK transmission pays attention to the trans temp and only allows the launch control to be used every 3 minutes or until it is properly cooled. Using it does not void your warranty.
Porsche's launch control on the PDK transmission pays attention to the trans temp and only allows the launch control to be used every 3 minutes or until it is properly cooled. Using it does not void your warranty.
I even posted a link containing the article about the Nissan GT-R's void warranty.
See link below:
http://www.fquick.com/blog/Launch_co...warranty_/2047
Like I said before Nissan is full of sh*t!
#154
for the next Top Gear episode... they should have The Stig lap the Nurburgring in a Nissan GTR, a Porsche 911 Turbo and a GT2.
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#159
Trolling Canuckistan
I just don't understand why they would under build an over engineered vehicle allowing it to be at risk of breaking when using the systems they put into it. Why have launch control there if it's not to be used?
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