Porsche: Panamera News **2017 Revealed (page 14)** - Page 15 - AcuraZine - Acura Enthusiast Community

Go Back  AcuraZine - Acura Enthusiast Community > Automotive Discussion > Automotive News
Reload this Page >

Porsche: Panamera News **2017 Revealed (page 14)**

Notices
Automotive News
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Porsche: Panamera News **2017 Revealed (page 14)**

 
Old 03-02-2017, 02:36 PM
  #561  
Moderator
iTrader: (3)
 
CLtotheTL32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Charlotte
Age: 30
Posts: 35,784
Thanked 8,568 Times in 5,747 Posts
I'm in love with the wagon
CLtotheTL32 is offline  
Old 03-03-2017, 08:12 AM
  #562  
Senior Moderator
 
srika's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 53,731
Thanked 7,267 Times in 3,897 Posts
Originally Posted by srika View Post
reminder of where it came from..... this concept was from May 2016.
srika is offline  
Old 03-03-2017, 08:15 AM
  #563  
Senior Moderator
 
srika's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 53,731
Thanked 7,267 Times in 3,897 Posts
Also I think this hasn't been posted.... the top line 2018 model is going to have ****680 horsepower**** with the standard twin-turbo engine assisted by a hybrid one. Holy insanity, Batman!!! Drop this motor in the wagon and Price is up there but what do you expect for a car of this caliber.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/02/25/...80-horsepower/

2018 Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid pumps out 680 horsepower

The most potent Panamera ever.

02.25.17
Porsche's most powerful Panamera ever is set to debut at the Geneva Motor Show. And in a nod to the times, and Porsche's own green car strategy, it's a plug-in hybrid.

The 2018 Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid will pack a total of 680 horsepower and 626 pound-feet of torque from a powertrain that features a 4.0-liter 550-hp V8 and a 136-hp electric motor. A 14.1-kilowatt-lithium-ion battery pack provides the juice, and the car can travel about 31 miles on just electricity. All of the low-end torque allows this big hybrid to hit 60 miles per hour in 3.2 seconds en route to a top speed of a 192 mph.
An eight-speed PDK dual-clutch gearbox and standard all-wheel drive round out the propulsion system. The battery takes 12 hours to charge on a 120-volt 10-amp plug, but fewer than three hours using a 240-volt, 40-amp socket.

So as the numbers bear out, this hybrid will indeed be capable. It will also feature the company's latest luxury features, like a 12.3-inch touchscreen with the Porsche Communication Management system. An air suspension, ceramic composite brakes, the Sport Chrono package, and Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus are among the included features. The hybrid comes in a standard wheelbase, starting at $185,450, and an executive wheelbase ($195,850). It hits dealers by the end of the year.
srika is offline  
Old 03-03-2017, 03:43 PM
  #564  
Registered Member
 
oonowindoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 15,285
Thanked 2,477 Times in 1,726 Posts
Um... this or NSX for the same price.....um..
oonowindoo is offline  
Old 03-03-2017, 05:59 PM
  #565  
Registered Member
 
ThermonMermon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NYC
Age: 34
Posts: 3,938
Thanked 57 Times in 46 Posts
Damn that's one of the best exteriors I have seen in a long time. Nailed it on the wagon. Just absolutely nailed it.

The pricing king on the base engine models does not seem worth it at all though.

96k for an optionless wagon w the 330 hp base motor w awd. Am I reading that right? Isn't that like two 2017 V90s (which is a pretty luxurious car in its own right).

Checking a few boxes, you'll be around 110k for the base engine wagon. Seems a bit nuts.
ThermonMermon is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to ThermonMermon For This Useful Post:
Chief F1 Fan (03-08-2017)
Old 03-08-2017, 06:18 AM
  #566  
Senior Moderator
 
Chief F1 Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Western New York
Age: 59
Posts: 18,757
Thanked 2,504 Times in 1,408 Posts
Originally Posted by SamDoe1 View Post
brb, buying a lottery ticket. Hoping I win so I can buy one of these. This has officially replaced the E63 AMG wagon as my dream daily driver.

Me too SamDoe, I've been looking to replace my 530xi-T and this would be absolutely perfect in every imaginable way.
Chief F1 Fan is offline  
Old 03-08-2017, 08:21 AM
  #567  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 10,948
Thanked 1,483 Times in 1,091 Posts
^ Do it !
00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 08-25-2017, 08:35 AM
  #568  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 10,948
Thanked 1,483 Times in 1,091 Posts
https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/...dk/first-drive

Mmmmmm. Hybrid.
Indeed. PHEVs are, quite possibly, the one remaining socially (and legally) acceptable method of limiting one’s tax liability. Official economy tests give MPG and CO2 figures that are all but impossible to match, but nonetheless mean that in Britain hybrids capable of running short distances on electricity alone get big tax breaks.

How big?
It’s complicated, and depends on how much you earn and how economical your car is. We won’t bore you with the process, but assuming you’re what they call an “additional rate” taxpayer, you can expect to pay Her Majesty’s Government something like £4,476 annually in company car tax for your shiny £81,141 Panamera 4 E-Hybrid – a car for which Porsche claims 113mpg and 56g/km.

A regular Panamera 4 is just £70,924, but emits a comparatively whopping 175g/km of CO2, more than doubling your yearly tax liability to £10,850. Take leasing costs (but not road tax, fuel, insurance…) into account, and some quick TG maths reveals that over three years, you’ll be £19,122 – or a whole Mini Cooper S – better-off with the ostensibly more expensive hybrid. This is not to be sniffed at.

So this is the Panamera to have, surely?
If you are a company car driver, then yes. If you aren’t, then no. It isn’t.

Why? What’s it like?
Let’s start with the basics: this is the Porsche Panamera 4 E-Hybrid. A plug-in hybrid that marries a 2.9-litre biturbo V6 with a “permanently excited” electric motor and 14.1kWh liquid-cooled lithium-ion battery (which is hidden under the boot floor).

Total system output is 456bhp and 516lb ft, allowing for 0-62mph in 4.6 seconds and a top speed of 173mph. Drive is to all four wheels via an eight-speed PDK and three-chamber air-suspension. A full charge from a typical household socket takes almost six hours, and delivers just over 30 miles of electric-only range at speeds of up to 87mph.

Sounds OK to me…
It sure is, providing you have some charge. Had none whatsoever when I got in it, so I stuck it in “E-Charge” mode, which promised to juice them up as I drove along. Cue the V6 blaring into life and, by the time I’d driven the mostly-motorway 76 miles home, an indicated 25.6mpg. And I’m neither especially heavy nor light of foot. I’m somewhere in the middle, and I’ve had better from Lamborghinis. Determined to do better, I plugged it in overnight, set-off with a full charge and arrived back at the office the next day having done a more respectable 39.8mpg. Not 113mpg, but not bad.

And that was achieved with judicious use of the many modes. E-Power, Hybrid Auto, E-Hold and E-Charge, along with Sport and Sport Plus. Most will leave it in Hybrid Auto, and if we’re honest it does a decent job of flitting between power sources as and when it decides. E-Hold hangs on to charge so you can use it later, E-Power is for electric-only running (default – what it starts in), and E-Charge is, as you know, the one that nukes fuel economy to charge the batteries. Because green.

Granted, people who buy Panamera PHEVs won’t find themselves in this position – having no charge at all – very often, because they’ll charge up at either home or office so they’re never left without. Or simply not buy it in the first place because it doesn’t fit with their lifestyle. But still. Could happen.

Could it?
Oh yes. Indicated range depletes quicker than your brain thinks it should, because of course the car’s using e-power alongside the engine to give you a boost. And it needs to – all the hybrid gubbins add 320kg – nearly two thirds a basic Caterham – to the Panamera’s kerbweight. With no e-assistance, it feels like what it is – a 2.2 tonne car with too little power.

Wow. Does it handle like a 2.2 tonne car?
In a way. You feel the mass on the brakes, which – in the finest of hybrid traditions – are a bit grabby, but in all it drives pretty well for such a big, boaty thing. Air suspension, too, so the ride’s nice and pillowy. The gearbox is a bit of a weird one – the old Panamera hybrid used a conventional torque-converter auto, but this new one’s gone PDK. But it’s not PDK as we know it – it’s slower, less decisive and less willing to respond to paddle pulls than we’re used to.

Oh, and this particular Panamera E-Hybrid had a sports exhaust, which is a bit odd because the last thing you want in a PHEV is to know when the engine and e-motor are trading blows. Especially odd (and loud) from the outside, when it decides the engine really is required halfway through pulling out of a junction, giving everyone within 50 feet palpitations. It would be a much, much better thing if it dropped the sporting pretensions and sought to deliver only on comfort.

Would it now?
Yes, because the Panamera is already bloody good at being comfortable, with its superb interior and long-range, loping qualities. Perhaps the Turbo S E-Hybrid will change our minds, but for now, the 4 E-Hybrid is a good PHEV. But it isn’t a good Panamera.


​​​​​​​
​​​​​​​
​​​​​​​
​​​​​​​
00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 09-11-2017, 07:12 PM
  #569  
Moderator
iTrader: (3)
 
CLtotheTL32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Charlotte
Age: 30
Posts: 35,784
Thanked 8,568 Times in 5,747 Posts
Need



My E-hybrid build was over $260k
CLtotheTL32 is offline  
Old 09-11-2017, 10:08 PM
  #570  
Ex-OEM King
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Minnesnowta
Posts: 5,665
Thanked 1,601 Times in 1,109 Posts
Love the options list on Porsches. Want the dials in a different color? $700.
SamDoe1 is offline  
Old 09-12-2017, 07:57 PM
  #571  
Registered Member
 
oonowindoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 15,285
Thanked 2,477 Times in 1,726 Posts
$70k in options..... i would rather have a base at $154k and a $70k M4
oonowindoo is offline  
The Following User Says Thank You to oonowindoo For This Useful Post:
2012wagon (09-26-2017)
Old 09-26-2017, 08:58 AM
  #572  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 10,948
Thanked 1,483 Times in 1,091 Posts
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/fut...rid-estate-car

Forget the Audi RS6: the Panamera Turbo S Sport Turismo is the new fast wagon king

In urgent need of a fast German estate car but always found the Audi RS6 a bit, erm, unpowerful? Well, you’re clearly mad.

But happily, Porsche has catered for your needs. This is the 670bhp (!) Panamera Turbo S e-Hybrid Sport Turismo. If the name seems a bit clunky, the rather svelte looking car is not.

It’s over 70bhp healthier than the fastest factory RS6, and it’s got hybrid power to thank. The 542bhp twin-turbo V8 from the ‘normal’ Turbo Turismo is given some assistance it hardly needed from a 134bhp electric motor. That’s basically a whole extra Swift Sport.

The same powertrain has already debuted in the hatchback Panamera, and it’s basically the ushering in of Porsche’s ethos that the top-rung Turbo should be petrol-electric.

On top of its Ferrari 488-beating power figure is 627lb ft of torque – any more, and it would be rivalling an aircraft carrier – enough to shuffle a two-tonne estate car to 62mph in 3.4secs (0.3sec below an RS6) on its way to a 192mph top speed (37mph greater than the Audi). Oh, and 0-124mph takes 8.5secs. That’s astonishing.

While these figures ought to be frighteningly achievable in the right conditions, the claimed 97.4mpg combined fuel consumption will likely remain solely on the spec sheet. But with around 30 miles of electric-only driving possible via a charge time of under three hours, there’s some flexibility here if you can plug the car in. And without any intervention from the V8, you can still hit 87mph…

As Porsche’s top-drawer model, there are many acronyms to learn. So there’s PAA (fancy active roof spoiler), PTV Plus (fancy handling stuff), PCCB (fancy brakes), PDCC Sport (fancy suspension) and PASM (even fancier suspension).

Being the Sport Turismo, there’s a lower boot lip and extra storage space over a regular Panamera – though perhaps not as much as you might think – as well as five seats rather than four.

The price? Um, £140,868. Pre-options. That makes it more expensive than a 911 Turbo or, when new, the ultra-exclusive 911 R. There is a heck of a lot of tech on board, though. And next time you meet an RS6 owner, some enormous bragging rights, too…
00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 09-26-2017, 08:58 AM
  #573  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 10,948
Thanked 1,483 Times in 1,091 Posts









00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 09-26-2017, 12:24 PM
  #574  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 40
Posts: 46,867
Thanked 3,737 Times in 1,984 Posts
My friend is seriously contemplating the Hybrid S when his x5m lease is up next year.
Sarlacc is offline  
Old 10-07-2017, 03:42 PM
  #575  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 40
Posts: 46,867
Thanked 3,737 Times in 1,984 Posts
Same friend is out here for a vacation right now and rented a Panamera GTS. He let me drive it. It feels heavy put has sounds great. Has nice punch when you floor it. Handles on rails.

And I can’t stand it. It’s horrible to get in and out of. I think the only more difficult is a lotus Elise/exige.
Sarlacc is offline  
Old 10-07-2017, 03:51 PM
  #576  
Moderator
iTrader: (3)
 
CLtotheTL32's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Charlotte
Age: 30
Posts: 35,784
Thanked 8,568 Times in 5,747 Posts
Are the seats too low or what? I've sat in one Panamera ever and don't remember how the entry/exit was
CLtotheTL32 is offline  
Old 10-07-2017, 05:27 PM
  #577  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 40
Posts: 46,867
Thanked 3,737 Times in 1,984 Posts
Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32 View Post
Are the seats too low or what? I've sat in one Panamera ever and don't remember how the entry/exit was
seats are super low and super bolstered. And it’s feels the position in relation to the door frame is off.
Sarlacc is offline  
Old 10-08-2017, 09:43 AM
  #578  
Senior Moderator
 
Chief F1 Fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Western New York
Age: 59
Posts: 18,757
Thanked 2,504 Times in 1,408 Posts
go in ass first
Chief F1 Fan is offline  
Old 10-08-2017, 01:39 PM
  #579  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 40
Posts: 46,867
Thanked 3,737 Times in 1,984 Posts
Originally Posted by Chief F1 Fan View Post
go in ass first
getting out is harder.
Sarlacc is offline  
Old 10-08-2017, 08:46 PM
  #580  
Senior Moderator
 
Yumcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 145,726
Thanked 14,682 Times in 9,118 Posts
Originally Posted by Sarlacc View Post
getting out is harder.
I sat in onebad1nsx's Panamera when we met up and had no issues climbing in and out...I know you had some back issues, was that a factor in your mobility?

I suspect it may have something to do with me being a small -er.
Yumcha is offline  
Old 10-09-2017, 10:14 AM
  #581  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 40
Posts: 46,867
Thanked 3,737 Times in 1,984 Posts
Originally Posted by Yumcha View Post
I sat in onebad1nsx's Panamera when we met up and had no issues climbing in and out...I know you had some back issues, was that a factor in your mobility?

I suspect it may have something to do with me being a small -er.
its you being small. We ALL hated it.
Sarlacc is offline  
Old 10-13-2017, 11:01 PM
  #582  
Senior Moderator
 
Yumcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 145,726
Thanked 14,682 Times in 9,118 Posts
Post 2018 Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo

Press release...

The most powerful Sport Turismo becomes a plug-in hybrid

Stuttgart. Porsche is expanding its hybrid range, as a powerful plug-in hybrid is being added to the Panamera Sport Turismo model line. The new Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo flagship model will combine a four-litre V8 engine with an electric motor, resulting in a system power of 500 kW/680 hp. Even when just above idle speed, the Panamera Turbo offers 850 Nm of torque. That means it accelerates from zero to 100 km/h in 3.4 seconds and reaches a top speed of 310 km/h. Average consumption in the New European Driving Cycle (NEDC) is 3.0 l/100 km. The most powerful Sport Turismo has a range of up to 49 kilometres using solely electric power and therefore producing zero local emissions. It is not just the balance between performance and efficiency that makes the Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo unique in its segment; its spatial concept, including a large tailgate, low loading edge, increased luggage compartment volume and a 4+1 seating configuration, means that the new flagship of the model line offers a high standard of everyday practicality. Porsche combines unique design and excellent everyday practicality with top performance and maximum efficiency.

Zero to 100 km/h in 3.4 seconds and 3.0-litre fuel consumption

As with the Panamera sports saloon flagship model, Porsche is now also demonstrating the huge performance potential of hybrid technology with the Sport Turismo. The boost strategy used in the series-production all-wheel drive Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo has been taken from the Porsche 918 Spyder super sports car. Even at 1,400 rpm, the V8 biturbo (404 kW/550 hp) and the electric motor (100 kW/136 hp) deliver the maximum system torque of 850 Nm. The decoupler integrated into the hybrid module is electromechanically actuated via an Electric Clutch Actuator. The result is short response times and a high level of comfort. The fast-shifting, eight-speed Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) is used to transmit power to the standard adaptive all-wheel drive system Porsche Traction Management (PTM). The E-performance drive allows the vehicle to sprint from zero to 100 km/h in 3.4 seconds. It only takes a further 8.5 seconds to reach the 200 km/h mark. The top speed is 310 km/h. Despite this level of performance, the plug-in hybrid model is also extremely efficient: The result from the New European Driving Cycle was fuel consumption of 3.0 l/100 km and power consumption of 17.6 kWh/100 km. The Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo has a range of up to 49 kilometres and a top speed of 140 km/h when driven solely using electric power, which result in no local emissions. The lithium-ion battery has an energy content of 14.1 kWh and can be charged within 2.4 to 6 hours, depending on the charger and power connection.

Unique design, adaptive roof spoiler and 4+1 seating concept

The Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo offers all of the innovations of the second generation of the Panamera. These include the digitalised Porsche Advanced Cockpit, ground-breaking assistance systems such as Porsche InnoDrive including adaptive cruise control and optional rear-axle steering. Another of these innovations is the roof spoiler, which is unique in the segment, the pitch of which is set to one of three different angles depending on the driving situation and selected vehicle settings. It also generates additional downforce of up to 50 kg on the rear axle. Up to a speed of 170 km/h, the aerodynamic guide element – a central system component of the Porsche Active Aerodynamics (PAA) – stays in its retracted position at an angle of minus seven degrees to follow the roof line, which slopes to the rear. Above 170 km/h, the roof spoiler automatically moves to the performance position with an angle of plus one degree, thereby increasing driving stability and lateral dynamics. When in the Sport and Sport Plus driving modes, the roof spoiler automatically moves to the performance position at speeds of 90 km/h upwards. PAA also provides active assistance by adapting the roof spoiler’s angle of inclination to plus 26 degrees when the panoramic sliding roof is open at a speed of 90 km/h or above in order to compensate for the turbulence created.

Conceptually, the top-of-the-line model offers all of the advantages of the new Sport Turismo range resulting from the avant-garde design. The roof line of the Sport Turismo, which is raised in comparison to the sports saloon, allows for easier entry and exit at the rear of the vehicle and ensures greater head clearance. The usability of the luggage compartment benefits from the wide opening tailgate, which is electrically operated as standard, and a loading edge height of just 628 millimetres. The Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo is also equipped with three rear seats. The two outside seats take the form of individual seats–in keeping with the model line’s claim for sporty performance with maximum passenger comfort–thereby producing a 2+1 configuration at the rear. Two electrically adjustable individual seats for the rear can also be ordered as an option. Measured to the upper edge of the rear seats, the Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo offers 425 litres of storage space. The backrests of the three rear seats can be folded down together or individually (in a 40:20:40 split) and are unlocked electrically from the luggage compartment. In this case, the loading volume is increased to up to 1,295 litres.

Extensive standard equipment including ceramic brakes

The Porsche Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo is available to order now, with prices starting from EUR 188,592 including VAT in Germany. The standard equipment is extensive: For example, it comes with electric Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC Sport) roll stabilisation including the Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus (PTV Plus) rear differential lock, the high-performance Porsche Ceramic Composite Brake (PCCB) braking system, 21-inch alloy wheels in a 911 turbo design, Power Steering Plus, the Sport Chrono Package and auxiliary air conditioning as standard. As with all Panamera Sport Turismo models that deliver more than 324 kW (440 hp) of power, the new top-of-the-line model also features adaptive three-chamber air suspension including Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) for a broad range between a high level of driving dynamics and driving comfort.
Yumcha is offline  
Old 10-16-2018, 10:26 AM
  #583  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 10,948
Thanked 1,483 Times in 1,091 Posts
https://www.netcarshow.com/porsche/2...sport_turismo/

Porsche has added two extra sporty models to its Panamera range. With a powerful performance from the four-litre V8 biturbo engine (338 kW/460 hp), extra dynamic chassis systems including three-chamber air suspension, and their own unique design elements and equipment, the Porsche Panamera GTS and Panamera GTS Sport Turismo harness a one-of-a-kind performance package. For example, the Sport Design package with black exterior elements and large Alcantara surfaces in the interior is included as standard. What's more, Porsche has expanded its portfolio of comfort and assistance systems to include a head-up display with various configuration options for the entire Panamera range.

Emotion and efficiency: V8 engine with 460 hp and sports exhaust system

At the heart of both of the new Porsche Panamera GTS models is a four-litre V8 engine with 338 kW (460 hp) of output and maximum torque of 620 Nm, cultivating an emotional sound and driving experience when combined with the standard sports exhaust system. The biturbo engine, which features a gasoline particulate filter, outperforms its predecessor by 15 kW (20 hp) and 100 Nm, accelerating the Panamera GTS and Panamera GTS Sport Turismo from 0 to 100 km/h in 4.1 seconds as it works in conjunction with the standard Sport Chrono package. The two models achieve a top speed of 292 and 289 km/h respectively. There are no interruptions in tractive force as power is transmitted to the Porsche Traction Management (PTM) all-wheel drive system by the eight-speed PDK dual clutch gearbox. Their exceptional performance is achieved with moderate consumption of just 10.3 l/100 km (Sport Turismo: 10.6 l/100 km) (see footnote); the CO2emissions are 235 g/km (Sport Turismo: 242 g/km).

Performance and comfort: sports chassis with three-chamber air suspension

Designed to reflect the sporting prowess of the Porsche Panamera GTS models, the chassis systems are impressively dynamic. The adaptive air suspension with three-chamber technology is fitted as standard, which results in flexible control and optimum spring rate spread. The sports chassis in the two GTS models has been lowered by 10 millimetres, while the Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) function has been adapted for an even sportier calibration. The result? Outstanding lateral dynamics. Large brakes (390 millimetres in diameter at the front, 365 millimetres at the rear) deliver outstanding deceleration.

That distinctive GTS look: Sport Design package with black highlights

When compared to the predecessor, the new Porsche Panamera GTS models' basic equipment package has been significantly upgraded in a number of areas. The Sport Design package with a new black front end, black trim at the bottom of the rear, and a variety of darker elements highlights the more athletic appearance. The GTS models are equipped with 20-inch Panamera Design wheels as standard. The interior features hallmark elements of black Alcantara and anodised aluminium. The standard package also includes a heated multifunction sports steering wheel with gearshift paddles and Alcantara trim and the Connect Plus module for a wide range of digital services. With the optional Interior GTS package, drivers can customise their vehicle with various design elements, such as a rev counter, designer seams, and GTS logos in the contrasting shades of Carmine Red or Crayon.

A first for the Panamera: head-up display with many configuration options

The GTS models offer all the same innovations as the second-generation Panamera range. These include the digital Porsche Advanced Cockpit, assist systems such as Porsche InnoDrive including adaptive cruise control, and optional rear-axle steering. The GTS also features one highlight that is new to the entire Panamera range - the head-up display. The display can be configured by the driver and projects all relevant information directly into their direct line of sight in full colour.

Even better for day-to-day driving: the first ever Panamera GTS Sport Turismo

As is tradition at Porsche, GTS stands for Gran Turismo Sport. Porsche's first road-approved sports car, the 904 Carrera GTS, was launched all the way back in 1963, bringing racing technology to the streets. This was followed by the 924 GTS and 928 GTS, which cultivated the concept throughout the 1980s and 90s. In 2007, the GTS celebrated its revival with the Carrera GTS. The first generation of the Panamera GTS followed in 2011, initially available as a sports saloon only. Now, the new Porsche Panamera GTS is also available as a Sports Turismo. With a large boot lid, low loading sill, increased luggage compartment volume and 4+1 seating configuration, the new GTS variant based on the 2017 model meets the highest of standards for everyday driving, while also delivering outstanding performance.

The new GTS models are available to order now. In Germany, the Porsche Panamera GTS is available from EUR 138,493 including VAT and country-specific equipment; the Porsche Panamera GTS Sport Turismo is available from EUR 141,349.

00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 10-16-2018, 10:26 AM
  #584  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 10,948
Thanked 1,483 Times in 1,091 Posts


00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 10-16-2018, 10:26 AM
  #585  
Registered Member
 
00TL-P3.2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Spring, TX
Age: 33
Posts: 10,948
Thanked 1,483 Times in 1,091 Posts




00TL-P3.2 is offline  
Old 10-16-2018, 10:53 AM
  #586  
Senior Moderator
 
Yumcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 145,726
Thanked 14,682 Times in 9,118 Posts
Sigh.

Yumcha is offline  
Old 10-16-2018, 06:06 PM
  #587  
Registered Member
 
oonowindoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 15,285
Thanked 2,477 Times in 1,726 Posts
Originally Posted by Yumcha View Post
Sigh.

add an "1" in front of your S5 $$ and u could have this.
oonowindoo is offline  
Old 10-24-2018, 11:23 PM
  #588  
Registered Member
 
TacoBello's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: In an igloo
Posts: 30,496
Thanked 4,403 Times in 3,312 Posts
TacoBello is offline  
Old 10-25-2018, 04:46 PM
  #589  
この道は毛むくじゃらのマンコだらけ..
 
onebadna1nsx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Mr. Hankey's House
Age: 29
Posts: 10,940
Thanked 198 Times in 114 Posts
Lemme respond to this a year later


Originally Posted by Yumcha View Post
I sat in onebad1nsx's Panamera when we met up and had no issues climbing in and out...I know you had some back issues, was that a factor in your mobility?

I suspect it may have something to do with me being a small -er.
Man, that's been some time Yummy! Gotta say though, kinda regret getting out of it a tiny bit.

Originally Posted by Sarlacc View Post
its you being small. We ALL hated it.
I had no issue getting in and out of it in the driver's seat. The back though, that's a different story. Pain in the ass and glad I never sat there. You step in and then kind of fall back into the seat. Ended up getting rid of it because it was hard for my grandparents to get in and out of. The Macan GTS is easier for people to get into the rear, but i think it's more of a pain in the ass to get in the seat now because of the high bolsters. .
onebadna1nsx is offline  
Old 10-26-2018, 12:00 PM
  #590  
The Third Ball
 
Sarlacc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
Age: 40
Posts: 46,867
Thanked 3,737 Times in 1,984 Posts
Originally Posted by onebadna1nsx View Post
Lemme respond to this a year later
Sarlacc is offline  
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
synth19
Automotive News
1840
03-20-2019 02:39 PM
gavriil
Automotive News
645
03-06-2019 12:56 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Porsche: Panamera News **2017 Revealed (page 14)**


Contact Us Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.