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Old 10-18-2005, 04:47 PM
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Porsche Ute II: Stuttgart targets BMW X3 with smaller off-roader - - By GREG KABLE - - Source: Autoweek

Porsche may have finally confirmed the Panamera, the coupe-like four-door sedan to tackle the likes of the Mercedes-Benz CLS, but word on the Stuttgart grapevine suggests chairman Wendelin Wiedeking is also considering a smaller SUV akin to the BMW X3.

At least one full-size design model exists at the company’s Weissach development center and is being evaluated as an addition to the Porsche range. Designed to complement
the successful Cayenne, the small Porsche SUV is in a conceptual stage of development and awaiting a production green light, according to Zuffenhausen insiders. If approved, the five-seater won’t arrive in the market before 2010.

Sources suggest Wiedeking is looking at working with Volkswagen-owned Audi on the proposed small SUV. Porsche may use the 4wd platform being developed for the upcoming Audi Q5, similar to using the Volkswagen Touareg underpinning for the Cayenne. The Q5, due out in 2007, boasts a longitudinal engine layout, with space to house a V8—two crucial elements of the new Porsche’s design.
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This totally makes sense IMO.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
This totally makes sense IMO.
It does, but still very disappointing. Porshe used to be such a niche brand.
Old 10-19-2005, 10:16 PM
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^ you cant be niche but still grow aggressively. Everyone is looking to grow. To do that one has to add new models.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
This totally makes sense IMO.
Yeah. It's necessary for them. They'll be coming late to the party, but they'll be here.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
^ you cant be niche but still grow aggressively. Everyone is looking to grow. To do that one has to add new models.
I was disappointed that they had to go and do another SUV. The Panamerica sedan was the more logical choice for Porsche, IMO.
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Originally Posted by gavriil
^ you cant be niche but still grow aggressively. Everyone is looking to grow. To do that one has to add new models.
Sure, but the next logical step for a performance company is a sedan ala m5 fighter, not an SUV. This is purely going after sales rather than the pursuit of building performance cars...
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Originally Posted by AsianRage
It does, but still very disappointing. Porshe used to be such a niche brand.
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Sure, but the next logical step for a performance company is a sedan ala m5 fighter, not an SUV. This is purely going after sales rather than the pursuit of building performance cars...

M5 fighter wont keep porsche from going belly up.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
M5 fighter wont keep porsche from going belly up.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
M5 fighter wont keep porsche from going belly up.

Umm porsche hasn't gone belly up since the 911 was introduced at the very beginning , you better find another car...
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Umm porsche hasn't gone belly up since the 911 was introduced at the very beginning , you better find another car...
But Porsche has had some tough times financially before. The Cayenne helped the balance sheet, and allowed Porsche to continue to make sportscars.

A smaller SUV will only help the profitability of Porsche IMHO.
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Originally Posted by AsianRage
I was disappointed that they had to go and do another SUV. The Panamerica sedan was the more logical choice for Porsche, IMO.


Personally I don't see how chasing after X3 buyers makes sense. I hardly ever see X3's on the road. Why dilute your brand image by selling low end SUV's?
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Disappointing to see yet another SUV on the road, especially a Porsche, but if I was running that company I would do it too.
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Post Porsche readying seven-speed DSG for lineup

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Porsche is getting ready to roll out a new seven-speed twin-clutch Direct-Shift Gearbox for everything from the Boxster to the forthcoming GT1 supercar, according to a new report by AutoWeek. Citing patent filings, the magazine said Porsche appeared to be planning to offer the technology on all its models. Porsche has long offered customers a choice of either a standard manual gearbox, or a Tiptronic automatic transmission. The DSG system would likely replace the Tiptronic technology, and could even woo some six-speed fans due to its incredible shift speed. According to AutoWeek, Porsche had hoped to have DSG ready for the launch of the 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo, but fell short of that goal.
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Considering that the Tiptronic was already faster than the manual for the 996 Turbo, adding the DSG to the 997 Turbo should make it the gearbox of choice for the stoplight drag racers...
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Considering that the Tiptronic was already faster than the manual for the 996 Turbo, adding the DSG to the 997 Turbo should make it the gearbox of choice for the stoplight drag racers...
996 TT w/Tip-S was faster than the 6-speed? I've seen posts regarding the 997TT Tip being faster than the 6-speed, but not sure about the 996.
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Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
996 TT w/Tip-S was faster than the 6-speed? I've seen posts regarding the 997TT Tip being faster than the 6-speed, but not sure about the 996.
I remember reading about it way back when the 996 TT was being introduced to the US and they made a big deal about the automatic being 0.3 second faster than the manual.
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Ladies and gentlemen the PERFECT daily driver is about to be introduced.........the 911 Turbo DSG.
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Not a surprise at all thinking of Porsche's ties with VW.
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The good ole standard manual is the ONLY tranny to get in a porsche.
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thats good news...
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Call me old school, but I've sampled DSG and still prefer a good old stick.
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The good ole standard manual is the ONLY tranny to get in a porsche.


When I get set to drop into a corner, set to drop a gear, touch the brake, blip the throttle and perfectly match my revs on a slendid heel-toe...that's my accomplishment. Not a computer's.

That said, there is some fun in driving a Ferrari that has the paddles. The F430 is fucking awesome to drive. That's the only thing I could see getting the floppy paddles in. It's just sick. As for the Porsche offering...read my above comment.
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We will probably get the shaft here in the US and won't get the trick features, such as lauch control.
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We will probably get the shaft here in the US and won't get the trick features, such as lauch control.
You never know. Porsche wants to start playing again.
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Post Porsche's new GT coupe...

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What kind of monster is Porsche developing? We have seen this Porsche Cayenne-based mule before, and every time we ask ourselves: What can it be? A Lamborghini SUV? A Bentley SUV?

We still don’t know for sure, but this prototype is hammering around the “Ring” with a speed that makes even Michael Schumacher jealous. It is actually one of the fastest cars around the Nürburgring, and the noise it makes is so evil, it makes the hair on your neck stand. At first, Porsche only had two of these mules, but now you can get them in almost every color. We have seen it in gold, black, blue, green and red. Also, we now know a little more than before:

First, these mules are rear-wheel-drive only.

Second, they are built as light weight cars with no power windows and central-looking, plastic windows in the rear doors and backwards.

Third, in normal cases the tires of a SUV are as wide in the front as in the back. But on this mule we can clearly see that’s not the case. The rear tires are much wider.

So, is it going to be a Cayenne RS? Is it a project that Porsche is developing for another brand? Or could it be a new front engine sports car from Porsche based on the new Panamera platform? A 2 door coupe aiming at the BMW 6-series, Maserati GranTurismo and Mercedes CL disguised under a Cayenne body just to make sure we won’t notice? Hopefully, we will get an answer to all these questions in a near future, and till then we will keep on speculating and enjoy pictures of airborne Porsches.
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whoa~ that looks pretty nice! ill hit 3 times a day~
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that kinda looks like a PS, unless there are multiple angle,s its just a photochop.
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Holy levitating SUV ...
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i dont get it....what does pic 1 have to do with anything..
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i dont get it....what does pic 1 have to do with anything..
Don't look at me Vindaloobreath. I'm just posting what I read.
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Originally Posted by rondog
that kinda looks like a PS, unless there are multiple angle,s its just a photochop.
not a photochop. I am almost 100% sure I know where that pic is from at Nurburgring, there is a jump where you will get that kind of air if you are going fast enough. It's right before Flugplatz (bottom left). And, I feel a sudden urge to play GT4.. :P
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Don't look at me Vindaloobreath. I'm just posting what I read.
ok Rice-a-roni boy, if it said "jump off a bridge", would you have done that too????
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ok Rice-a-roni boy, if it said "jump off a bridge", would you have done that too????
Possibly yes. Depends what's at the bottom of the bridge.
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btw that Cayenne looks ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by srika
btw that Cayenne looks ridiculous.
Would you like Porsche's number so you can call to whine about that...?


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