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Old 02-26-2006, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ilitig8
I just don't see turning of TC on the street, makes no sense and can result in big problems. As far as too intrusive you are either driving to hard for the street (felony level), or your particular TC is over active. The DSC on my M3 isn't too bad at all, I can tighten my line with the throttle with no issues. My lap times with DSC on are only about 2 seconds slower at Road Atlanta, a little more at Barber, Carolina and VIR, I still find it a great way to warm the tires and determine track conditions without taking a chance with tons of other cars on the track. I have had instructors turn off TC immediately and others just let me run how I wanted. In the end I have found it helpful for me to get up to speed faster particularly at new tracks and if I think it works for me, then it works for me. The lack of PASM is the reason I don't have a 996 GT3 and the reason the 997 GT3 is more appealing to me. As a funny aside one interview I read quoted M. Schumacher state he left stability control on his road Ferrari's on all but 1% of the time, I figure if it makes sense for him, I will wait until my skills eclipse his to bother turning it off on the street.

On the thread given all the goodies and 35 more HP the 6K increase from the last GT3 makes the 997 look like a bargain particularly when we have seen how much better the 997 chassis is! Just noticed they say 55 more HP, I could have sworn the last one was 380...
My Mustang easily burns up the tires and it's intrusive if you have to use the power to accelerate. I turn it off so I know what the car is going to do when I put my foot into it. As for Schumacher, he probably never pushes his street Ferrari. He does drive the most advanced Ferrari in the world on race tracks. Once you've driven something like that street cars aren't fun. My friend whom is a pro racer drives a Silverado truck.
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My Mustang easily burns up the tires and it's intrusive if you have to use the power to accelerate. I turn it off so I know what the car is going to do when I put my foot into it. As for Schumacher, he probably never pushes his street Ferrari. He does drive the most advanced Ferrari in the world on race tracks. Once you've driven something like that street cars aren't fun. My friend whom is a pro racer drives a Silverado truck.

Now you are making more sense because the Mustang's TC is light years behind the TC/stability control in current sports cars. In this case I agree with you!!! I still maintain that if you need to turn TC off on US roads you are likely in felony territory.

As for F1 pilots I think you would be surprised, not a year goes by that at least one (usually 2) get their street drivers licence revoked for what most would consider insane driving!!! That reminds me of the epic road races between F1 teammates from the non-fly away Euro races to their homes in Monaco they have become legendary! Plus they don't live in the US, where hanging out is ludacris even if you are a skilled driver.

A little more food for thought, the GT3 is a very track oriented car, the 997 will be the first with stability/TC, Porsche likely is adding it due to requests from potential buyers, given the fact the car is so track oriented and Porsche has a more expensive more luxurious car (the TT) for those that just want the status and Porsche (along with BMW) probably has the highest percentage of owners who track their new cars it would seem that an awful lot of people who plan to track these cars want stability control included if only for the street.
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Originally Posted by ilitig8
Now you are making more sense because the Mustang's TC is light years behind the TC/stability control in current sports cars. In this case I agree with you!!! I still maintain that if you need to turn TC off on US roads you are likely in felony territory.

As for F1 pilots I think you would be surprised, not a year goes by that at least one (usually 2) get their street drivers licence revoked for what most would consider insane driving!!! That reminds me of the epic road races between F1 teammates from the non-fly away Euro races to their homes in Monaco they have become legendary! Plus they don't live in the US, where hanging out is ludacris even if you are a skilled driver.

A little more food for thought, the GT3 is a very track oriented car, the 997 will be the first with stability/TC, Porsche likely is adding it due to requests from potential buyers, given the fact the car is so track oriented and Porsche has a more expensive more luxurious car (the TT) for those that just want the status and Porsche (along with BMW) probably has the highest percentage of owners who track their new cars it would seem that an awful lot of people who plan to track
these cars want stability control included if only for the street.
There are plenty of places to wring out cars in the US. I have a great stretch of road on my way to Wisconsin. As for TC, it only prevents wheelspin electronically. The system in my 05 GT doesn't have a yaw sensor and neither does the GT3. It's not a true stability system that corrects for oversteer or understeer. Both systems can't overcome the laws of physics.
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Looks real classy in white.


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Do you happen to have those pics in larger format? I don't want a little shot of that on my desktop?
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man I don't... I would think it might be available somewhere at some point in the future..

btw its possible the US may also get the GT3 RS next year, which is usually Europe only.
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BTW, if you folks have not gone to the website. GO.


The flash video is superb and magnificently done (you even get the choice to see how the engine and suspension work!)...I've watched it many times now...
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
BTW, if you folks have not gone to the website. GO.


The flash video is superb and magnificently done (you even get the choice to see how the engine and suspension work!)...I've watched it many times now...
Indeed... the site is BEAUTIFUL. Same goes with the Turbo's site as well!
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You can download the entire GT3 clip from the site...pretty suite!

Magnificent car...
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I want to download a GT3 into my garage...
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man I don't... I would think it might be available somewhere at some point in the future..

btw its possible the US may also get the GT3 RS next year, which is usually Europe only.

That seems to be the buzz, but in reality they would likely be snapped up by P-car "colllectors" since they are a little much for the street, even the GT3 is pushing it.
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New Porsche GT2 and GT3 RS First Photos

Work on two Porsches has been discoverd at the Nurburgring

Porsche GT3 RS
The first, and highly anticipated, 911 is the upcoming GT3 RS -- which will make an appearance worldwide. The GT3 RS uses the wider rear fenders of the Carrera 4, a wider rear track, a more aggressive rear wing, and a modified front spoiler lip. The RS will be offered in the same 1970s colours that made the 1973 Carrera RS famous, as evidenced by the bright orange and green roll bars in test mules as well as the edges where their black peelcoats are shrinking. The new GT3 RS will lose weight compared to the standard 997 GT3 with items like a carbon-fiber wingtop, the extensive use of composite bodywork, and lightweight glass. It will homologate several changes for the upcoming 2007 GT3 RSR race car, possibly including a 3.8-liter flat six instead of the 3.6-liter, 415-hp unit in the new GT3.



Porsche GT2
The second car and unexpected by many sources at this point is the 997-based GT2. With standard PCCB ceramic composite brakes from the 605-hp Carrera GT, the wider rear flares of the Carrera 4/Turbo range, and intercooler ducts in its rear fenders, it is unmistakably the next GT2. The rear wing top on this test mule is similar to those found on previous GT2s and may be exchanged for a newer design, but the lower, vented wing-base looks production-ready. The front bumper is new and simpler than the 997 Turbo's and the rear bumper vents remain hidden on this car. Expect the GT2's horsepower to be at least 520 when it's announced later this year, with the possibility of as much as 550 or more on the table. Top speed should exceed 200 mph, a first for production-line 911s.

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First 4 photos of the GT2 and four photos of the new GT3 RS
http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphoto...s-first-photos
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dunno how I missed this...

possibly 550+ hp for the GT2?!? damn that is approaching CGT power levels..
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More Choices - - Source: Autoweek

On the other hand, for buyers who prefer speed and power over total comfort, Porsche unleashes a more powerful version of the blown 911 convertible. Shown here for the first time, Stuttgart’s latest Turbo Cabrio will go on sale toward the end of this year as part of the thoroughly revised 911 lineup. At the cab’s heart is the Turbo’s reworked version of the twin-turbocharged 3.6-liter flat-six with 480 hp.

Top speed remains close to the existing model’s 193 mph.



Photo Illustration by Brenda Priddy & Company
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On the Targa, exterior modifications over the coupe include a sharp-edged rear side window plus the panoramic transparent roof that slides back over the rear window at the push of a button. Our spies tell us it is more than likely the Targa will be available as a Carrera 4 and S, on top of the Carrera 2 Targa.

The illustrations are based on spy photos.
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nice pic by "BD 997" at Rennteam... need to find a bigger version. (I added the words, could not resist )

911 Turbo Evolution.

Porsche. 1337.
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ok then the 400hp+ GT3 will be OMG impressive... right? :P

I'm impressed by 380hp out of this car, just like I am impressed by the 333hp out of the M3. My point is we are talking about a very exclusive crowd here, there aren't many - and it is impressive for a 3.8L 6 to make just about as much as a 5.7L V8 such as the '01 Z06, for instance...

I agree with you, specific output is impressive. Over 100 is always impressive and when you look at the GT3 the 400 out of 3.6L is just wild. Part of the reason I like specific output is it means revs, revs usually mean cool sounds.

And the other poster is correct you have to jump to the 107K GT3 to get in the Z06 realm but the extra you get for the money is huge for some people. I for one thing what you get for the extra money is worth it.

The trick with the Club Coupe though it is over priced (most of the as equipped MSRPs will be over $110k) it will be a supreme collectors car, and if you aren't looking for that then you wouldn't even consider it.
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Nice post at the top of the page srika .
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on the topic of autos..

Has anybody seen the June issue of MT? They tested the 5-speed auto 997TT @ 11.4 @ 120 and 0-60 in 3.2 sec!!!!! Guess they launched it pretty hard! I skimmed through but I believe it said they did a nice brake torque on it...

and I believe it, Porsche's claim for 0-60 is 3.7 and they are ALWAYS conservative.
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11.4? holy crap
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Gotta love AWD + turbo power...this new 997TT should be ungodly fun to drive...
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That's way too fast for a 500hp 3400+ lbs car that is AWD(less power to the ground). I smell a ringer.
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That's way too fast for a 500hp 3400+ lbs car that is AWD(less power to the ground). I smell a ringer.

It has 500+ lb-ft of Tq and the AWD will help is get out of the hole. Notice the trap speed is 5MPH less than a Z06.
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The reason the 911 does so well is due to how well it hooks off the line and the torque storing capabilities of its auto tranny.
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Above six posts are split and merged from Z06 thread.
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Post 2007 Porsche 911 (997) GT3 RS breaks cover

Porsche today revealed the 2007 Porsche 911 GT3 RS — a purist variant of the 2007 GT3 with track use in mind. The GT3 RS is distinguished by its track capability, but also meets all requirements for road use. The RS boasts the same 415 bhp as the regular GT3, but a close-ratio six-speed transmission with a single-mass flywheel and the 20 kg lower vehicle weight mean 0-62 mph takes just 4.2 seconds. That’s one tenth of a second faster than the GT3. It takes just 13.3 seconds to hit 124 mph.

One characteristic of the new “RS” is the body, which is 44 mm wider at the rear (a legacy from the Carrera 4 models) by comparison with the 911 GT3. The muscular-looking rear end conceals a wider track that not only improves directional stability but also increases the transverse acceleration potential of this two-seater coupe.

Despite its specialized body, the “RS” is 20 kg lighter than the GT3, weighing in at just 1375 kg. This weight-saving was achieved by the use, amongst other solutions, of an adjustable carbon fiber wing, the use of a plastic rear lid and a lightweight plastic rear window. The corresponding weight-saving is 4.5 kg/kW.

With a view to the registration regulations for the important Gran Tourismo championships as future fields of application, the road version of the GT3 RS has resorted to technical solutions that will also feature in the racing version. These solutions will include the entire wheel carrier and split wishbones on the rear axle, in addition to the carbon fiber components of the body.

And the interior lives up to the vehicle’s sporting aspirations: 2 lightweight bucket seats made of carbon fiber composite materials come as standard and in the club sports package. There is a bolted roll cage and the pre-wiring for the battery main switch. A six-point seatbelt for the driver and a fire extinguisher are also provided. Internal trims are black, with the roof lining, steering wheel and gear stick trimmed in high-quality Alcantara leather.

The available finishes are Arctic Silver metallic or black; as an option, the GT3 can also be obtained in orange or green. All vehicle insignia and the wheels themselves are styled in orange or black to contrast with the body paintwork.

The basic price for the 911 GT3 RS is €111,600 (excluding country-specific requirements). In Germany, the coupe costs €129,659 including sales tax. The GT3 RS will also be available for sale on the North American market from March 2007.











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So hot. But what's up with having a radio and HVAC? This thing is supposed to be the ultimate lightweight Porsche...
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So hot. But what's up with having a radio and HVAC? This thing is supposed to be the ultimate lightweight Porsche...
Well, if I'm gonna be hooliganning it up on a track, I'd be rocking it to some tunes.

C'mon, look at The Stig.




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Well, if I'm gonna be hooliganning it up on a track, I'd be rocking it to some tunes.

C'mon, look at The Stig.





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Press release from Porsche:

With effect from October, Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG of Stuttgart, Germany, will be launching the new 911 GT3 RS on the European market. This purist variant of the GT3 is particularly suited for use on the track. The GT3 RS is distinguished by its performance capability and the unadulterated driving experience enjoyed with a racing car, but also meets all requirements for road-legal sports cars.

The exceptionally meaty engine boasts a displacement of 3.6 liters to generate 305 kW (415 bhp) at 7,600 rpm. Maximum revs are reached at 8,400 rpm. The power output per liter of engine capacity is 115.3 bhp. These figures correspond to the present GT3. But the RS puts in an even better performance. Thanks to a close-ratio six-speed transmission with a single-mass flywheel and the 20 kg lower vehicle weight, the engine revs up even more freely, thus enabling the 911 GT3 to sprint from zero to 100 km per hour in 4.2 seconds. That's one tenth of a second faster than the GT3. It takes just 13.3 seconds to hit to 200 km per hour. Maximum speed is 310 km per hour.

The reference "RS" will quicken the pulse of Porsche connoisseurs. Models such as the legendary Carrera RS 2.7 of 1972 and the type 964 911 RS (1991) were also sports cars that stood out on account of an extreme degree of maneuverability and handling. That tradition is continued with the new 911 GT3 RS. In common with its predecessors, it provides a basic and pre-approval model for use in a range of racing series.

One characteristic of the new "RS" is the body, which is 44 mm wider at the rear (a legacy from the Carrera 4 models) by comparison with the 911 GT3. The muscular-looking rear end conceals a wider track that not only improves directional stability but also increases the transverse acceleration potential of this two-seater coupe.

Despite its specialized body, the "RS" is 20 kg lighter than the GT3, weighing in at just 1375 kg. This weight-saving was achieved by the use, amongst other solutions, of an adjustable carbon fiber wing, the use of a plastic rear lid and a lightweight plastic rear window. The corresponding weight-saving is 4.5 kg/kW.

With a view to the registration regulations for the important Gran Tourismo championships as future fields of application, the road version of the GT3 RS has resorted to technical solutions that will also feature in the racing version. These solutions will include the entire wheel carrier and split wishbones on the rear axle, in addition to the carbon fiber components of the body.

And the interior lives up to the vehicle's sporting aspirations: 2 lightweight bucket seats made of carbon fiber composite materials come as standard and in the club sports package. There is a bolted roll cage and the pre-wiring for the battery main switch. A six-point seatbelt for the driver and a fire extinguisher are also provided. Internal trims are black, with the roof lining, steering wheel and gear stick trimmed in high-quality Alcantara leather.

The available finishes are Arctic Silver metallic or black; as an option, the GT3 can also be obtained in orange or green. All vehicle insignia and the wheels themselves are styled in orange or black to contrast with the body paintwork.

The basic price for the 911 GT3 RS is €111,600 (excluding country-specific requirements). In Germany, the coupe costs €129,659 including sales tax. The GT3 RS will also be available for sale on the North American market from March 2007.
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Ooo...and hi-res pics for those who're adding this as a wallpaper: http://www.seriouswheels.com/top-200...911-GT3-RS.htm
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