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#241
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
They can add a hundred vents, doesn't make the front bumper any better looking.
#242
Originally Posted by Maximized
To each his own....I personally like it and have no doubt in my mind that Porsche put them there for a reason.
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Originally Posted by zeroday
if things like the rear spoiler were 'purely' functional why doesnt it have the race/cup car's spoiler? the most functional design would be used for racing i would think.
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I don't know about this car. It really doesn't look too much different from the 996 TT. I like that Porsche reduced the weight, but I don't think it's bringing enough power to the party. The base TT should have been 500 hp and the S should be 540-550.
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Originally Posted by cob3683
Setting the bar once again
#248
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
I don't think this new 911TT has set the bar or the previous 911TT for that matter. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Z06 to come out on top in a head to head comparison performance test against the new 911TT.
after the question about the world brimming with 500-hp sedans and sports cars - I would have paid to have them ask "What about the new Z06?"
#249
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
I don't think this new 911TT has set the bar or the previous 911TT for that matter. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Z06 to come out on top in a head to head comparison performance test against the new 911TT.
My "setting the bar" comment was mainly talking about how much better the 997 looks to be over the 996, much like the 3-series and Corvette with each new generation.
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New images of the 2007 GT3...
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More pics: http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/02/...rsche-911-gt3/
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More pics: http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/02/...rsche-911-gt3/
#251
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#252
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oooh nice LED front turn signals... they weren't as pronounced in the other pix. I was hoping the final exhaust openings and pipes would look different though... it just looks unfinished to me...
#253
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this was posted on corvetteforum by a previous 996TT owner:
looks like Porsche's got a (potential) Z06-beater on their hands
The all new 997 Porsche TT will do 0-60 in 3.4 seconds and the Quarter in 11.6 seconds with the standard 480 HP. The X50 option with more power will come later. I just got the official mailer from porsche because I am a past 996 TT owner. These numbers are with the Tiptronic S Trans. the Manual runs 0-60 in 3.7 and the Quarter in 11.8 seconds. keep in mind these are the Factory numbers which are historically conservative. Top speed is 193 MPH with both trannies. The X50 will be available in a year and adds 40 HP.
#255
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Originally Posted by srika
this was posted on corvetteforum by a previous 996TT owner:
looks like Porsche's got a (potential) Z06-beater on their hands
looks like Porsche's got a (potential) Z06-beater on their hands
#256
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Originally Posted by Yumchah
Big whoop. For the price Porsche's gonna charge for the car, a Z06 owner could make some mods to re-squish the TT with his money saved?
#257
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geez... settle down everyone, relax.
lots of tempers flarin' this Monday at AZ...
lots of tempers flarin' this Monday at AZ...
#258
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Originally Posted by srika
geez... settle down everyone, relax.
lots of tempers flarin' this Monday at AZ...
lots of tempers flarin' this Monday at AZ...
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Originally Posted by srika
this was posted on corvetteforum by a previous 996TT owner:
looks like Porsche's got a (potential) Z06-beater on their hands
looks like Porsche's got a (potential) Z06-beater on their hands
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man i dont know jack about porsches, what does the 996 or 997 mean? and the 911? carrera? turbo? GT2? GT3?? ???????????? ??????????????????????
#261
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
man i dont know jack about porsches, what does the 996 or 997 mean? and the 911? carrera? turbo? GT2? GT3?? ???????????? ??????????????????????
997 = Current bodystyle
911 = Closest thing to heaven ever made by man
Turbo = Turbocharged 911 (See 911....only better)
GT2 = Lightweight racing version of Turbo (See Turbo....only better)
#262
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Originally Posted by cob3683
996 = Body style from 1998-2004/2005 (Some models)
997 = Current bodystyle
911 = Closest thing to heaven ever made by man
Turbo = Turbocharged 911 (See 911....only better)
GT2 = Lightweight racing version of Turbo (See Turbo....only better)
997 = Current bodystyle
911 = Closest thing to heaven ever made by man
Turbo = Turbocharged 911 (See 911....only better)
GT2 = Lightweight racing version of Turbo (See Turbo....only better)
Carrera GT = Car God would drive
#263
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Specifications
Engine
Type: Flat-6, Twin-Turbo
Displacement cu in (cc): 220 (3596)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 480(353) / 6000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 457(620) / 1950-5000
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Brakes & Tires
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: n.a.
Driveline: All Wheel Drive
Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Length × Width × Height in: n.a.
Weight lb (kg): n.a.
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 3.4
Top Speed mph (km/h): 193 (311)
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): n.a. (12.8)
Base Price: 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo - $122,900
Type: Flat-6, Twin-Turbo
Displacement cu in (cc): 220 (3596)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 480(353) / 6000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 457(620) / 1950-5000
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Brakes & Tires
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: n.a.
Driveline: All Wheel Drive
Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Length × Width × Height in: n.a.
Weight lb (kg): n.a.
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 3.4
Top Speed mph (km/h): 193 (311)
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): n.a. (12.8)
Base Price: 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo - $122,900
#264
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More tidbits (courtesy of Rsportscars.com):
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Initial Details Released on 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo
Porsche revealed the first official images and information on the new 2007 911 Turbo. The sixth generation of the range-topping 911 model features a revolutionary 480-bhp, twin-turbocharged, 3.6-liter boxer engine with the world’s first gasoline-engine application of variable turbine geometry (VTG), a redesigned all-wheel-drive system, and evolutionary styling.
The new 911 Turbo’s engine produces 480 hp at 6,000 rpm, 60 bhp more than its predecessor, raising specific output of the 3.6-liter boxer-Six to an all-time high of 133 bhp per liter. More notable is the engine’s torque curve, which has been bolstered and broadened by the variable turbine geometry system. Peak torque rises to 457 lb-ft (previously 415 lb-ft), but that peak now spans an extended rpm range from 1,950 to 5,000 rpm, compared to 2,700--4,600 rpm in the previous 911 Turbo. Additionally, a function in the optional Sport Chrono Package allows a 10-second, mid-rpm-range ‘overboost’, temporarily increasing turbo boost under full throttle by 2.9 psi, and swelling peak torque to 502 lb-ft.
A 911 Turbo equipped with the optional 5-speed Tiptronic S automatic transmission requires only 3.4 seconds to sprint from 0 to 60 mph. Equipped with the standard six-speed manual transmission, the new 911 Turbo reaches the same 60 mph mark in 3.7 seconds. With either gearbox, the top track speed of the new 911 Turbo is 193 mph.
Much of the 911 Turbo’s improved performance can be attributed to the variable turbine geometry system, the first such system available on a turbocharged gasoline engine. The heart of the technology is adjustable guide blades, which can vary in angle to most effectively guide engine exhaust flow onto the turbocharger’s impeller wheel. The result is a system that provides the advantages of both a small and large turbocharger, improving flexibility and acceleration, particularly at low engine speeds.
To transfer this power to the road, the new 911 Turbo features a redesigned all-wheel-drive system, with an electronically controlled multi-disc clutch replacing the previous model’s viscous clutch. Porsche Traction Management (PTM) allows variable power distribution fore and aft, and depending on conditions, the system’s electronics constantly determine optimal torque distribution to ensure ideal traction. In use, PTM provides exceptional agility on winding roads, outstanding traction in inclement conditions, and impressive active safety even at higher speeds. Though powerful, the 911 Turbo’s PTM setup is one of the lightest all-wheel-drive systems on the market.
The new 911 Turbo’s accelerative performance is duly tempered by its brake system, which is comprised of six-piston monobloc calipers up front, and four-piston monobloc calipers at the rear. Brake disc diameter at all four corners has been increased 20 mm, to 350 mm (13.78 in.). Optional is Porsche’s Ceramic Composite Brake system (PCCB). In addition to the exotic pad and rotor material, the PCCB option provides an increased front disc diameter (380 mm /14.96 in.), absolute corrosion resistance, improved fade stability, and a 37-pound unsprung-weight savings versus the standard brake system.
Styling changes made to the new 911 Turbo are evolutionary. The modified front end features tautly drawn cooling air inlets, widely spaced and deep-set fog lights, and new LED indicators situated in the lateral air inlets. From the rear, the Turbo takes on a more powerful stance thanks to a tail 22 mm (0.9-in.) wider than that of the previous model. The redesigned wing spoiler has been aligned to the wider profile, and slopes downward slightly at each end to nestle the rear fender’s contours. The lateral air inlets behind the doors have also been redrawn, and together with the new air ducts, afford a more efficient supply of cooling air to the intercoolers.
The 2007 911 Turbo goes on sale this summer in North America.
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Initial Details Released on 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo
Porsche revealed the first official images and information on the new 2007 911 Turbo. The sixth generation of the range-topping 911 model features a revolutionary 480-bhp, twin-turbocharged, 3.6-liter boxer engine with the world’s first gasoline-engine application of variable turbine geometry (VTG), a redesigned all-wheel-drive system, and evolutionary styling.
The new 911 Turbo’s engine produces 480 hp at 6,000 rpm, 60 bhp more than its predecessor, raising specific output of the 3.6-liter boxer-Six to an all-time high of 133 bhp per liter. More notable is the engine’s torque curve, which has been bolstered and broadened by the variable turbine geometry system. Peak torque rises to 457 lb-ft (previously 415 lb-ft), but that peak now spans an extended rpm range from 1,950 to 5,000 rpm, compared to 2,700--4,600 rpm in the previous 911 Turbo. Additionally, a function in the optional Sport Chrono Package allows a 10-second, mid-rpm-range ‘overboost’, temporarily increasing turbo boost under full throttle by 2.9 psi, and swelling peak torque to 502 lb-ft.
A 911 Turbo equipped with the optional 5-speed Tiptronic S automatic transmission requires only 3.4 seconds to sprint from 0 to 60 mph. Equipped with the standard six-speed manual transmission, the new 911 Turbo reaches the same 60 mph mark in 3.7 seconds. With either gearbox, the top track speed of the new 911 Turbo is 193 mph.
Much of the 911 Turbo’s improved performance can be attributed to the variable turbine geometry system, the first such system available on a turbocharged gasoline engine. The heart of the technology is adjustable guide blades, which can vary in angle to most effectively guide engine exhaust flow onto the turbocharger’s impeller wheel. The result is a system that provides the advantages of both a small and large turbocharger, improving flexibility and acceleration, particularly at low engine speeds.
To transfer this power to the road, the new 911 Turbo features a redesigned all-wheel-drive system, with an electronically controlled multi-disc clutch replacing the previous model’s viscous clutch. Porsche Traction Management (PTM) allows variable power distribution fore and aft, and depending on conditions, the system’s electronics constantly determine optimal torque distribution to ensure ideal traction. In use, PTM provides exceptional agility on winding roads, outstanding traction in inclement conditions, and impressive active safety even at higher speeds. Though powerful, the 911 Turbo’s PTM setup is one of the lightest all-wheel-drive systems on the market.
The new 911 Turbo’s accelerative performance is duly tempered by its brake system, which is comprised of six-piston monobloc calipers up front, and four-piston monobloc calipers at the rear. Brake disc diameter at all four corners has been increased 20 mm, to 350 mm (13.78 in.). Optional is Porsche’s Ceramic Composite Brake system (PCCB). In addition to the exotic pad and rotor material, the PCCB option provides an increased front disc diameter (380 mm /14.96 in.), absolute corrosion resistance, improved fade stability, and a 37-pound unsprung-weight savings versus the standard brake system.
Styling changes made to the new 911 Turbo are evolutionary. The modified front end features tautly drawn cooling air inlets, widely spaced and deep-set fog lights, and new LED indicators situated in the lateral air inlets. From the rear, the Turbo takes on a more powerful stance thanks to a tail 22 mm (0.9-in.) wider than that of the previous model. The redesigned wing spoiler has been aligned to the wider profile, and slopes downward slightly at each end to nestle the rear fender’s contours. The lateral air inlets behind the doors have also been redrawn, and together with the new air ducts, afford a more efficient supply of cooling air to the intercoolers.
The 2007 911 Turbo goes on sale this summer in North America.
#266
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And oh, I really want one...
#269
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I think the wheels would look better if they weren't as "busy"... :hmm:
#270
woooo!!
two things:
the headlights--they do NOT look agressive enough especially compared to the rest of the car
the exhaust cutout--wth? not a fan
other than that, i love it!! those wheels are gorgeous... spilt-spoke is teh best.
the headlights--they do NOT look agressive enough especially compared to the rest of the car
the exhaust cutout--wth? not a fan
other than that, i love it!! those wheels are gorgeous... spilt-spoke is teh best.
#271
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the headlights are a classic 911 look. they never looked aggressive... always had this "grin" type of look...
check how the wheels look without the inner spokes.... also fixed the exhaust
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/5...austmod5an.jpg
check how the wheels look without the inner spokes.... also fixed the exhaust
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/5...austmod5an.jpg
#272
woooo!!
Originally Posted by srika
the headlights are a classic 911 look. they never looked aggressive... always had this "grin" type of look...
check how the wheels look without the inner spokes.... also fixed the exhaust
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/5...austmod5an.jpg
check how the wheels look without the inner spokes.... also fixed the exhaust
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/5...austmod5an.jpg
I def dig your photoshop job of the exhaust. 5 thick-spoke works for me too, although it's not nearly as distinctive as 3-spilt-spoke imo
#279
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
front bumper looks kinda cheap. Dont hurt me
Doesn't look like 993 turbo prices will be dropping anytime soon
#280
Originally Posted by GreenMonster
No, you're right... It looks like crap... and kinda ricey
Doesn't look like 993 turbo prices will be dropping anytime soon
Doesn't look like 993 turbo prices will be dropping anytime soon
Dunno, the theme I have seen develop is that the Porschephiles have been dropping 997 TT deposits for GT3 deposits. The GT3 is what most of them think of when they think of Porsche. Personally, I like the GT3 more than any other Porsche sans the CGT. I had planned to buy a Modena or GT3 later this year until we decided to build a vacation lake house last year, so I have a couple more years to decide and I must admit the decision is getting harder and harder, style or function in a car is always a hard choice for me.
In the next year the value will be in a late model 996 X50, prices have/will take a good tumble and they can be modded for mega horsepower. The 997 modding ability is still out with the jury, even though it is still based on the GT1 engine the new VGT has a lot of folks questioning the reliability of mega-boost setups. Also it irks me that the Tip is quicker than the manual and it isn't even a new version of the Tip, still same old 5spd from the 996 as far as anyone can tell. I could accept it if it was a 6-7 spd DSG but a TIP! However, I have been told over and over the track monsters swear the Tip is faster around the track.
Back to the GT3, I would not doubt the GT3 beats the 996 GT3RS and GT2 around the N-ring. If it does it would make the $110k price seem like a bargain, though at 123k and 0-60 numbers possibly better than the CGT, so is the TT, least in a straight line.