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https://www.carscoops.com/2019/03/po...elivered-cars/
Porsche confirmed our report, saying that it will indeed reproduce the four examples of the 911 GT2 RS that were lost with the cargo ship. Find the official quote at the end of the article. (Update 3/19/2019)
Production of the 911 GT2 RS ended last February, but apparently Porsche is resuming manufacturing (at least a few cars) in order to attend to a handful of customers in Brazil, whose vehicles were lost in a recent shipping accident.
A cargo ship named Grande America sank off the coast of France on March 12 following a fire that broke on one of the containers on deck, taking with it some 2,000 cars. Audi Brazil reportedly confirmed that the ship was carrying a number of A3, A5, Q7, RS4, and RS5 models.
Porsche, however, hasn’t publicly confirmed having cars on the same vessel, but thanks to an anonymous tip, we got hold of a letter sent by Porsche Brazil to a customer, telling them that their 911 GT2 RS can not be delivered due to the accident of the Grande America.
We loosely translated the letter:
Sources from Brazil mentioned that the cargo ship carried at least four examples of the Porsche 911 GT2 RS, along with few other models, including 718 Caymans and Boxsters, as well as Cayennes.
According to a Porsche spokesperson, Porsche Brasil confirms that 37 of its new cars, in route from Hamburg, Germany to Santos, Brazil, were aboard the vessel Grande America that suffered a maritime incident near the coast of Brest, France, on March 12, 2019. Among the fleet were four 911 GT2RS units.
“In a special decision and to uphold its commitment to its valued Brazilian customers, Porsche has ensured that those units will be reproduced in the order in which they were originally confirmed”, the spokesperson added.
Production of the 911 GT2 RS ended last February, but apparently Porsche is resuming manufacturing (at least a few cars) in order to attend to a handful of customers in Brazil, whose vehicles were lost in a recent shipping accident.
A cargo ship named Grande America sank off the coast of France on March 12 following a fire that broke on one of the containers on deck, taking with it some 2,000 cars. Audi Brazil reportedly confirmed that the ship was carrying a number of A3, A5, Q7, RS4, and RS5 models.
Porsche, however, hasn’t publicly confirmed having cars on the same vessel, but thanks to an anonymous tip, we got hold of a letter sent by Porsche Brazil to a customer, telling them that their 911 GT2 RS can not be delivered due to the accident of the Grande America.
We loosely translated the letter:
”We are sorry to inform you that, due to a fire, a Grimaldi group ship, that was transporting your vehicle, sank on March 12, 2019. And for that reason, your GT2 RS can not be delivered.
As you may know, Porsche ended the 991 GT2 RS production on February 2019 and under normal circumstances, it wouldn’t be possible to give you another car. But, due to the nature of the situation, and considering that you’re a loyal and highly valuable customer for our brand, Porsche has decided to resume the GT2 RS production in Germany, and your vehicle will be produced in April, with delivery scheduled for June.
We recommend that you contact your local Porsche Center for further information.”
As you may know, Porsche ended the 991 GT2 RS production on February 2019 and under normal circumstances, it wouldn’t be possible to give you another car. But, due to the nature of the situation, and considering that you’re a loyal and highly valuable customer for our brand, Porsche has decided to resume the GT2 RS production in Germany, and your vehicle will be produced in April, with delivery scheduled for June.
We recommend that you contact your local Porsche Center for further information.”
According to a Porsche spokesperson, Porsche Brasil confirms that 37 of its new cars, in route from Hamburg, Germany to Santos, Brazil, were aboard the vessel Grande America that suffered a maritime incident near the coast of Brest, France, on March 12, 2019. Among the fleet were four 911 GT2RS units.
“In a special decision and to uphold its commitment to its valued Brazilian customers, Porsche has ensured that those units will be reproduced in the order in which they were originally confirmed”, the spokesperson added.
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2019 Porsche 911 Speedster
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More pics here: https://www.autoblog.com/2019/04/16/...-show-pricing/
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Porsche has gotten our attention right off the bat at the 2019 New York Auto Show by bringing the 911 Speedster for its North American debut. It won't be plentiful, limited to just 1,948 units worldwide. It won't be cheap, either. The 2019 Porsche 911 Speedster will cost $275,750, which includes the delivery fee of $1,250.
The 911 Speedster borrows its naturally-aspirated 4.0 liter flat-six engine from the 911 GT3 and 911 GT3 RS. That produces 502 horsepower and 346 pound-feet of torque, with a pulse-elevating 9,000-rpm redline. It gets individual throttle bodies for improved response, and is mated to a GT Sport six-speed manual transmission. It'll do 0-60 miles per hour in just 3.8 seconds, before continuing to a top speed of 192 miles per hour.
How badly do you want to feel 192 mph in the open air?
Speaking of which, the 911 Speedster comes equipped with a manually operated lightweight fabric top. We won't image it'll see much time in the closed position, though. Behind the cockpit are the two signature streamliner bulges, making the Speedster instantly recognizable. The weight reductions continue inside the car, with lightweight door panels with storage nets and woven door pulls. The car makes extensive use of carbon fiber, as well.
If you're lucky enough to own one of these Speedsters, you can also get an exclusive Porsche Design 911 Speedster Chronograph watch. It features a carbon fiber dial, a rotor modeled after the Speedster's center lock wheel, and a strap made of Porsche interior leather.
The 911 Speedster borrows its naturally-aspirated 4.0 liter flat-six engine from the 911 GT3 and 911 GT3 RS. That produces 502 horsepower and 346 pound-feet of torque, with a pulse-elevating 9,000-rpm redline. It gets individual throttle bodies for improved response, and is mated to a GT Sport six-speed manual transmission. It'll do 0-60 miles per hour in just 3.8 seconds, before continuing to a top speed of 192 miles per hour.
How badly do you want to feel 192 mph in the open air?
Speaking of which, the 911 Speedster comes equipped with a manually operated lightweight fabric top. We won't image it'll see much time in the closed position, though. Behind the cockpit are the two signature streamliner bulges, making the Speedster instantly recognizable. The weight reductions continue inside the car, with lightweight door panels with storage nets and woven door pulls. The car makes extensive use of carbon fiber, as well.
If you're lucky enough to own one of these Speedsters, you can also get an exclusive Porsche Design 911 Speedster Chronograph watch. It features a carbon fiber dial, a rotor modeled after the Speedster's center lock wheel, and a strap made of Porsche interior leather.
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Geebus...$275K for a roofless (but gorgeous) GT3...
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This one looks so much better in the real pictures I have seen compared to the last one. The back doesn't look like it sticks up as high or is atleast better blended into the qaurter panels/fenders.
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https://jalopnik.com/the-new-porsche...tio-1835854159
The new 992 Porsche 911 will get a series of Heritage Design Packages that pick and choose various style flourishes from 911s of time passed in a series of special editions. And because it wouldn’t be a real special edition without its own watch, the cars are getting matching timepieces, too.
The first of these special heritage 911s has already been shown off as the new 911 Speedster that was revealed at the New York Auto Show this year. However, the rest of the upcoming models won’t all necessarily have such dramatically altered body styles. Instead, they’ll get some vintage flourishes like the Speedster did, just on the standard 911 body.
You know, just a few casual limited edition 911s. Nothing crazy.
The first of those is expected next year, though it’s unclear which classic 911s it will be specifically modeled after. Porsche says it’s pulling interior and exterior materials and colors from classic Porsches ranging from the 1950s to the 1980s, and it sounds like the Heritage Design Packages may spread out over multiple cars for the next few years.
Some of those special materials include the vintage 1970s Porsche emblem, which the next Heritage model will wear on its hood, and as Car and Driver pointed out, interior materials like corduroy, tartan, houndstooth, Pepita, and Pasha are apparent in some of the style book photos included in the press release.
One of the images also shows a concept rendering of a Heritage 992 interior and its direct inspiration, the dashboard of a 1964 model, with wood dashboard trim, meshing well with the inherent throwback aesthetic of the five driver display dials on the new 992.
The cars will be produced in limited numbers with matching Porsche timepieces, and the vehicles are meant to highlight and embrace the contrast between the technological advancement of the modern cars with the style flourishes of the classics.
If it means more houndstooth, crazy carpet and wood dashboards in modern cars, I’m all for it. Even if they’re all going to be stupidly appreciating the moment they’re sold.
The first of these special heritage 911s has already been shown off as the new 911 Speedster that was revealed at the New York Auto Show this year. However, the rest of the upcoming models won’t all necessarily have such dramatically altered body styles. Instead, they’ll get some vintage flourishes like the Speedster did, just on the standard 911 body.
You know, just a few casual limited edition 911s. Nothing crazy.
The first of those is expected next year, though it’s unclear which classic 911s it will be specifically modeled after. Porsche says it’s pulling interior and exterior materials and colors from classic Porsches ranging from the 1950s to the 1980s, and it sounds like the Heritage Design Packages may spread out over multiple cars for the next few years.
Some of those special materials include the vintage 1970s Porsche emblem, which the next Heritage model will wear on its hood, and as Car and Driver pointed out, interior materials like corduroy, tartan, houndstooth, Pepita, and Pasha are apparent in some of the style book photos included in the press release.
One of the images also shows a concept rendering of a Heritage 992 interior and its direct inspiration, the dashboard of a 1964 model, with wood dashboard trim, meshing well with the inherent throwback aesthetic of the five driver display dials on the new 992.
The cars will be produced in limited numbers with matching Porsche timepieces, and the vehicles are meant to highlight and embrace the contrast between the technological advancement of the modern cars with the style flourishes of the classics.
If it means more houndstooth, crazy carpet and wood dashboards in modern cars, I’m all for it. Even if they’re all going to be stupidly appreciating the moment they’re sold.
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Some of the audio seems off/different camera source, but still amazing
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https://www.motor1.com/news/359852/p...rga-spy-video/
Photo/video at link above.
You can see some odd things at a traffic light like a next-gen Porsche 911 Targa sitting alongside the upcoming 911 Turbo Cabriolet. Neither of them the vehicles are wearing much camouflage, despite driving around on public roads.
This clip is brief but provides enough of a view of the Targa to see some of the details. The tail wears only marginal camouflage around the corners of the taillights. The need for this concealment is unclear, though, because the styling looks the same as the standard Carrera model. The exhausts are slightly different by using trapezoidal outlets rather than the Carrera's circular exits.
The rest of the car doesn't show any obvious camouflage, but the roof is in place. Judging by the visible cut lines, it appears that the top retains the existing version's complicated mechanism where the entire rear deck lifts up to make room for the roof section (see below).
The powertrain for the Targa is almost certainly the same as the Carrera. The current S model produces 443 horsepower (330 kilowatts) and 390 pound-feet (529 Newton-meters) of torque. The complicated roof likely adds some weight, so reaching 60 miles per hour (96 kilometers per hour) probably takes longer than the Carrera S' 3.5 seconds.
The debut date for the new 911 Targa is a mystery, but Porsche has a whole lot of variants of its iconic sports car yet to put on sale. For example, the 911 Turbo and Turbo Cabriolet are still to come, and spy shots show that the new 911 GT3 is deep into development. They add up to a whole lot of 911s arriving in the months to come.
This clip is brief but provides enough of a view of the Targa to see some of the details. The tail wears only marginal camouflage around the corners of the taillights. The need for this concealment is unclear, though, because the styling looks the same as the standard Carrera model. The exhausts are slightly different by using trapezoidal outlets rather than the Carrera's circular exits.
The rest of the car doesn't show any obvious camouflage, but the roof is in place. Judging by the visible cut lines, it appears that the top retains the existing version's complicated mechanism where the entire rear deck lifts up to make room for the roof section (see below).
The powertrain for the Targa is almost certainly the same as the Carrera. The current S model produces 443 horsepower (330 kilowatts) and 390 pound-feet (529 Newton-meters) of torque. The complicated roof likely adds some weight, so reaching 60 miles per hour (96 kilometers per hour) probably takes longer than the Carrera S' 3.5 seconds.
The debut date for the new 911 Targa is a mystery, but Porsche has a whole lot of variants of its iconic sports car yet to put on sale. For example, the 911 Turbo and Turbo Cabriolet are still to come, and spy shots show that the new 911 GT3 is deep into development. They add up to a whole lot of 911s arriving in the months to come.
#1851
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More than likely, just like the last Turbo and Turbo S, it will have the PDK transmission.
Whatever happened to driving enthusiasts?
Whatever happened to driving enthusiasts?
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I have always conceded that for cars of this caliber and this day and age, it makes a lot of sense to have something like PDK. Especially with the turbo having more tech, AWD...
But for a massively profitable car company like Porsche, I don't see why they couldn't offer a manual too, despite how low take rate may be.
But for a massively profitable car company like Porsche, I don't see why they couldn't offer a manual too, despite how low take rate may be.
#1853
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Do I really care that PDK gets me to 60 in 0.4 seconds less time. Nope! Besides, that only happens once on the track or from red light to red light. I would have never considered my GTS if it had a PDK, not even at half the price.
This reviewer talks about the PDK and manual...
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#1854
I can see it for those driving "competitively" on the track, where there is prize money at the end. Ever bit of technology helps bring the lap times down.
Do I really care that PDK gets me to 60 in 0.4 seconds less time. Nope! Besides, that only happens once on the track or from red light to red light. I would have never considered my GTS if it had a PDK, not even at half the price.
I'd be that one.
This reviewer talks about the PDK and manual...
Do I really care that PDK gets me to 60 in 0.4 seconds less time. Nope! Besides, that only happens once on the track or from red light to red light. I would have never considered my GTS if it had a PDK, not even at half the price.
I'd be that one.
This reviewer talks about the PDK and manual...
With the advent of EVs, I fully realize and admit how spectacular they are; the range anxiety issue is basically non-existent for me since I don't do very much long distance driving as is. The twice/thrice half-hour recharge in a year (at most) is not really a downside as far as I'm concerned.
How is this relevant? Well, basically no matter how good EVs become, they are fundamentally a non-starter for me. Stickshift is not so much a preference as it is a requirement. I refuse to make my primary car one without a manual and it bums me out to see the trend of shedding manual transmissions continue.
#1855
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I have always conceded that for cars of this caliber and this day and age, it makes a lot of sense to have something like PDK. Especially with the turbo having more tech, AWD...
But for a massively profitable car company like Porsche, I don't see why they couldn't offer a manual too, despite how low take rate may be.
But for a massively profitable car company like Porsche, I don't see why they couldn't offer a manual too, despite how low take rate may be.
I wonder if the investment cost is just way too high for a tiny bit of return...just like how the C8 is no more manual (though that was a big platform change than 991 to 992 I would imagine).
But maybe someone with more knowledge than me can chime in. I do always wonder about that also....
#1856
Certainly an expensive undertaking to have a different model (by way of transmission choice), and there are absolutely people tracking take rate and doing cost-benefit analysis behind the scenes. I am pretty sure that having a different powertrain configuration mandates that it undergoes additional crash/safety, emissions testing, etc. which is very expensive.
I'm trying to do my part by buying manuals. As much as I'm against buying a brand new car 99% of the time, I went ahead and bought mine new due to the timing.
It can get pretty screwy later on too when you buy used. Friend of mine is looking at Gallardos, and he showed me a 2012 LP550-2 where it has a $40k premium above market due to it being manual. Just goes to show that the demand is there, just not enough of it.
I'm trying to do my part by buying manuals. As much as I'm against buying a brand new car 99% of the time, I went ahead and bought mine new due to the timing.
It can get pretty screwy later on too when you buy used. Friend of mine is looking at Gallardos, and he showed me a 2012 LP550-2 where it has a $40k premium above market due to it being manual. Just goes to show that the demand is there, just not enough of it.
#1857
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The biggest killer to manuals is fuel consumption. Very few manual cars can get better mileage compared to the same model with an auto these days. And, unfortunately, that's what makes the difference to the manufacturers of the cars that are attainable to most of us (new)
The guys out there buying Porsches and Lambos and Ferraris without manuals are just partaking in the latest dick measuring contest though.
The guys out there buying Porsches and Lambos and Ferraris without manuals are just partaking in the latest dick measuring contest though.
#1858
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DeLorean changed all that in the late 60s. GM came out with the Camaro, Firebird and the GTO. If I bought a Vette, it would have been a 1970 with the LT1 engine. That or the 63 to 67 series just for the styling. They really aren't very good cars, but I happen to like them. They say the C8 and earlier Vettes were built by "enthusiasts", although I wonder about that.
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The mighty 992 Turbo S is reviewed by Top Gear: https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/porsche/911-turbo-s
If you believe me, they hate it. Yes. Yup.
Not.
Sigh.
If you believe me, they hate it. Yes. Yup.
Not.
Sigh.
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IIRC, the 996 GT2 was a 200k car, not the Turbo is 200k, I can't imagine what the subsequent GT3 & GT2 will be.
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911 Speedster up for auction with proceeds going towards COVID-19 cause: https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/0220
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Heritage Design Targa...
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The Targa is so perfect
I configured one last night while watching tv...$60k in options
I configured one last night while watching tv...$60k in options
#1868
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I love the look of the 992...maybe one of these days.
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what a time when you can do a Stage 3 APR E85 tune on the base model 911 and be at 650hp and 600 tq.
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What amazing is how well they are able to maintain the Porsche brand image despite selling about 280000 vehicles worldwide last year. They are able to keep that prestige image while making a ton of profit from selling the Cayenne (92000 sold) and Macan (100000 sold). I heard the new Taycan is selling really well too. Not sure how they are doing in 2020 due to COVID, but I'd imagine without COVID, they would likely reach 300000 units.
Porsche get to share stuff between VW, Audi, Bentley, etc to help with keeping costs down.
Porsche get to share stuff between VW, Audi, Bentley, etc to help with keeping costs down.
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For a lux performance [smaller] mid-size SUV, I really like the looks on the Macan. Tough call between the P-car or the AMG #MBFanboi.
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2021 Porsche 911 Turbo
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I was at my desk working and looked up at the clock- it was 9:11. It's a premonition.
#1880
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Life can be short, so I bought my first 911.
But there are lots of times I wake up at 917 or 906 or 904.