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Old 02-29-2016, 08:12 PM
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They based it off of a GT3 RS (a track beast through and through) and they omitted the aero pieces?
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My guess is that owners wanted the performance of the GT3RS without the overt aero bits.
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Limited to 991 units... can't wait to see what the markup is, that is if they haven't all sold out already.
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Post 2016 Porsche 911 R

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The new Porsche 911 R

Great Britain. Unveiled today at the 2016 Geneva International Motor Show, the new Porsche 911 R is a pure-bred sports car built to conform to a time-honoured formula; a powerful 500 hp (368 kW) four-litre naturally-aspirated flat-six engine driving the rear wheels, a six-speed manual transmission, and a lightweight body. It is also limited to just 991 examples worldwide.

These characteristics place the 911 R firmly in the tradition of its historic namesake: a road-homologated racing car from 1967. Produced as part of a limited production series, the original 911 R was campaigned in iconic road races of the period, such as the Tour de France and Targa Florio, and also in world record runs.

Like its legendary predecessor, the new 911 R offers an unfiltered driving experience, delivered via systematic lightweight construction and a devotion to maximum performance: this special model has an overall weight of 1,370 kilograms and is thus the lightest version of the 911. With a high-revving six-cylinder naturally aspirated engine and manual sports transmission, Porsche is once again underlining its commitment to especially emotional high-performance sports cars. Developed in the Motorsport workshop, the 911 R extends the spectrum of high-performance naturally-aspirated engines alongside the motor sport-inspired, track-bred models 911 GT3 and 911 GT3 RS.

In the rear of the 911 R lies the charismatic flat-six ‘boxer’ engine with a displacement of four-litres, familiar from the 911 GT3 RS. The race-bred engine delivers 500 hp at 8,250 rpm and generates 460 Nm at 6,250 rpm.

From a standing start, 0-60 mph is possible in 3.7 seconds. In keeping with the pure character of the 911 R, it is available exclusively with a six-speed manual sports transmission. The short gearshift travel emphasises the interactive driving experience. The forward thrust of the 911 R continues to a potential top speed of 201 mph (323 km/h), and Combined NEDC fuel consumption is 21.2 mpg (13.3 l/100 km).

A thoroughbred driving machine: technology from the race track

The 911 R could almost have been made for twisting roads. Fitted as standard with specially-tuned rear-axle steering, direct turn-in and precise handling is guaranteed while maintaining high stability. In addition, the mechanical rear limited slip differential ensures maximum traction.

Ensuring the greatest possible deceleration are Porsche Ceramic Composite Brakes (PCCB), also fitted as standard. The discs measure a generous 410 mm diameter on the front axle and 390 mm on the rear. Ultra High Performance Tyres of 245 mm width at the front and 305 mm width at the rear provide assured contact to the road. These are mounted on lightweight, forged aluminium wheels with centre-locking and matt-finish.

Motorsport development has adapted the control systems of the Porsche Stability Management (PSM) for the 911 R, tailoring the car for a focused and authentic driving experience. An optional single-mass flywheel for the engine is one example of this, resulting in a significant improvement in spontaneity and high-rev responsiveness of the engine. A double-declutch function - activated by pressing a button - for perfect gearshifts when changing down is also part of the repertoire of the 911 R.

For broad everyday versatility, a lift system can also be ordered: it raises ground clearance of the front axle by approximately 30 mm at the touch of a button.

With an overall weight of 1,370 kg, the 911 R undercuts the 911 GT3 RS by 50 kg. The bonnet and front wheel-arches are made of carbonfibre and the roof is magnesium, which reduces the centre of gravity. Rear windscreen and rear side windows are lightweight plastic. Additional weight-saving factors are the reduced sound insulation in the interior and the omission of a rear bench seat.

The optional air conditioning system and the audio system also hint at the intense slimming regime.

Wolf in sheep's clothing: classic 911 look with GT motor racing technology

From the exterior, the 911 R gives a reserved impression. At first sight, the body resembles that of the Carrera. The nose and rear body will be familiar from the 911 GT3, and hint at the birthplace of the 911 R: namely the motorsport department in Flacht. In technical terms therefore, the 911 R has a lot to show under the skin: namely the drive technology from the 911 GT3 RS.

All the lightweight components of the body and the complete chassis originate from the 911 GT3. However, with a view to road use, the body does not have the fixed rear wing familiar with that model. Instead, a retractable rear spoiler shared with the Carrera models and a bespoke aerodynamic diffuser beneath the rear underbody provides the necessary downforce.

The front and rear apron come from the 911 GT3, with a re-designed spoiler lip installed on the front. The sports exhaust system consists of the lightweight construction material titanium.

Continuous coloured stripes in red or green over the entire mid-section of the vehicle provide a visual cue to the legendary predecessor. A further leitmotif is provided by the ‘Porsche’ script along each side of the vehicle. The driver and front passenger sit in a carbon-fibre bucket seat, trimmed with bespoke fabric centre panels in Pepita tartan design, a nod to the first 911 in the 1960s. Fabric pull straps on each door are a familiar hint to the focused intent of all 911 models from the GT department.

Ahead of the driver sits an R-specific 360 mm diameter GT sport steering wheel, and a short shift gearlever – not to mention the obvious clutch pedal in the footwell – contribute to the specific interior ambience. And underlining the special nature of this limited production model, carbon trim strips in the interior with an embedded aluminum badge on the passenger's side indicate the limited number of each 911 R.

Launch and prices

The new Porsche 911 R is available to order from today in Porsche Centres in the UK and Ireland, priced from £136,901. Limited to 991 units worldwide, first UK deliveries are scheduled for June.

The 911 R is arguably the ultimate road-focused 911 in the 53 year history of the model. It is certain to be appreciated by long-standing fans of the 911, and in particular those customers that have consistently owned, lived with and driven successive generations of this iconic sports car.
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Amazing car. I want one. Though I hear the GTS is a great alternative.
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I like the hole in the middle
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I like the hole in the middle
Why do you care? Can't buy it so the R may as well be vapor.
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This is my favorite car in the universe right now.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Why do you care? Can't buy it so the R may as well be vapor.
I just like the holes in the middle? what is your problem?
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
I just like the holes in the middle? what is your problem?
He's still bitter from trading his 6MT 4G TL for a TLX.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
what is your problem?
No problem with you per se, just saying unless you own a 918 no mere mortal will have a chance to own an R unless the few that trickle down to the dealer level which will get upcharged to nosebleed levels. So you might as well be talking about vapor.

Why? Because Porsche hates you!
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who owns NSX as of right now? so yah... that is vapor..

just because we can't afford it doesnt mean it does not exist.... unlike some car...
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
who owns NSX as of right now? so yah... that is vapor..
There is a reasonable likelihood of having an NSX in my driveway sometime in the next six to nine months under 200k. There is a less reasonable chance to acquire a 991 R at a price approaching twice MSRP IF I can find an owner to part with a pre-sold one.

So yeah, one is clearly more vapor~ish than the other.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
There is a reasonable likelihood of having an NSX in my driveway sometime in the next six to nine months under 200k. There is a less reasonable chance to acquire a 991 R at a price approaching twice MSRP IF I can find an owner to part with a pre-sold one.

So yeah, one is clearly more vapor~ish than the other.
If your definition of vapor cars are the ones you can't afford, then you are right.
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^^^Dang, well if he can afford a NSX good for him. Would be good to hear/see a review from a Aziner member.

The 911R will be crazy expensive though and not even sure if can get on the pre-order list...so depending on when the first cars are delivered NSX may be out in the real world by june (from unconfirmed NSX prime posts)....we'll see....don't hold your breath though.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
If your definition of vapor cars are the ones you can't afford, then you are right.
No, my definition of vapor cars are ones that are configurable on a website but are not actually available for purchase at MSRP. I double dog dare you to actually configure an R and get a response from a dealer about acquiring one.

Thus my original comment which you've drawn on and on and on about...
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^^^Dang, well if he can afford a NSX good for him. Would be good to hear/see a review from a Aziner member.

The 911R will be crazy expensive though and not even sure if can get on the pre-order list...so depending on when the first cars are delivered NSX may be out in the real world by june (from unconfirmed NSX prime posts)....we'll see....don't hold your breath though.
Oh trust me, that breath of air was gone years ago
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
No, my definition of vapor cars are ones that are configurable on a website but are not actually available for purchase at MSRP. I double dog dare you to actually configure an R and get a response from a dealer about acquiring one.

Thus my original comment which you've drawn on and on and on about...
Ok so i guess you will have a whole list of vapor cars then.

all hellcats and pretty much all cars with market up.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
No, my definition of vapor cars are ones that are configurable on a website but are not actually available for purchase at MSRP. I double dog dare you to actually configure an R and get a response from a dealer about acquiring one.

Thus my original comment which you've drawn on and on and on about...
All due respect, your definition does not make sense.

If you see one on the road, it's not a vapor car.

Anything promised and never delivered is a vapor car.

If you can't afford it, that doesn't mean it's "vapor."

You can't afford to buy an Airbus A380 but they definitely exist. I've seen them; my brother has flown in one.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
All due respect, your definition does not make sense.

If you see one on the road, it's not a vapor car.

Anything promised and never delivered is a vapor car.

If you can't afford it, that doesn't mean it's "vapor."

You can't afford to buy an Airbus A380 but they definitely exist. I've seen them; my brother has flown in one.
I have always admired the A380... but always avoided them. I can't imagine how long it is going to take for me to get out and waiting for my luggage

of course unless If i can fly business/1st.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
There is a reasonable likelihood of having an NSX in my driveway sometime in the next six to nine months under 200k. There is a less reasonable chance to acquire a 991 R at a price approaching twice MSRP IF I can find an owner to part with a pre-sold one.

So yeah, one is clearly more vapor~ish than the other.
Dude...not being able to afford a car does not mean it is a "vapor" car. It's a "dream" car.

So, are you implying that a Pagani Zonda is a "vaporcar"...?



I started calling the NSX a vaporcar, (yes, hate on me for this) because the car was not seeing a production line after cancellation after cancellation.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
all hellcats and pretty much all cars with market up.
This is the 911 thread and my original comment was specifically regarding the lack of availability of the 991 R. Have nothing against Hellcats, but I'm not in the mopar market.

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Ok. So your definition of vapor car is: Anything with a mark up, by anything you actually meant Porsche 911 only. All other cars are excluded.

Your logic is so flawed, you are making me confused.
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Originally Posted by SSFTSX
Your logic is so flawed, you are making me confused.
Dude are you as dense as you appear to be on the internets? Not sure why you are soooooo confused, I've explained it five times now.

I'm NOT in the market for a Hellcat.
I'm NOT in the market for a Pagani Zonda.
I'm NOT in the market for a Airbus A380.
This is the 911 thread and I am a prime candidate to purchase an R IF it was available.

BUT its NOT. It's pre-sold out, thus my comment that it may as well be a vaporware.

Dude, let it go. I'm done commenting here.
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Originally Posted by Fibonacci
Dude are you as dense as you appear to be on the internets? Not sure why you are soooooo confused, I've explained it five times now.

I'm NOT in the market for a Hellcat.
I'm NOT in the market for a Pagani Zonda.
I'm NOT in the market for a Airbus A380.
This is the 911 thread and I am a prime candidate to purchase an R IF it was available.

BUT its NOT. It's pre-sold out, thus my comment that it may as well be a vaporware.

Dude, let it go. I'm done commenting here.
Define dense, because i might be.
It will be available one way or the other but the question is are you going to pay for it?
Because it is attainable as long as you got the $$, no it is not vaporware.


You know what is vaporware? TVs at Bestbuy during Black Friday.
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Define dense, because i might be.
It will be available one way or the other but the question is are you going to pay for it?
Because it is attainable as long as you got the $$, no it is not vaporware.


You know what is vaporware? TVs at Bestbuy during Black Friday.
That's a vaportube.

Or vaporscreen. TVs are not software.
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Vapor - hardware? does that count?
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Rare Porsche 911 GT3 RS Falls Into Amsterdam Canal



Car Pro Rare Porsche 911 GT3 RS Falls Into Amsterdam Canal - Car Pro






Grab your tissue box because this is something that’ll break your heart. It’s the story of an ultra-rare Porsche 911 GT3 RS falling into a canal in Europe.

The sad spectacle happened outside of Porsche of Amsterdam in the Netherlands. According to reports, the sportster had just been fitted with new livery for a customer when things went horribly wrong. It’s not known exactly how it happened, but the car rolled off the ramp and head nose into the water. It was quickly pulled out. The dealer is blaming a mechanic for the mistake.

Hans van der Valk, owner of Porsche Centrum Amsterdam, said: “It’s one of our top models now with his nose in the water. But where people are. Mistakes are made and here it is purely a mechanic who has made a mistake.”

But wait a second, just when you thought all was lost, the dealer actually says it’s not over for the sportster. What!? Apparently, the engine wasn’t damaged and the dealer says the damage isn’t fatal. However, it will likely need a little front end work.

The 2016 Porsche 911 GT3 RS churns out 500 horses thanks to a 4.0 liter flat-six engine.

So I guess we can all put away our kleenex boxes now, whew. That was a close one.
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6 cylinder N/A 500hp, 8.8k redline.... fuck....music to my ears.. what vapor?
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Meh.....All it needs is a few towels to dry it off. Nothing to see here, move along.
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I was invited to a 991.2 launch party and overheard one of the porsche reps talking over cocktail banter that only 250 R's were allocated to North America, were offered to 918 owners first and are all spoken for.

So yes, vaporware.


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