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Old 09-08-2004, 10:28 PM
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Too conservative for a company that is strictly supposed to be about performance.
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Are they going to do something to give it better performance. It's been dog slow for years.
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On the bottom interior picture, what's that thing on the right side of the console? Looks like a 1980's car phone...
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On the bottom interior picture, what's that thing on the right side of the console? Looks like a 1980's car phone...


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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
Are they going to do something to give it better performance. It's been dog slow for years.
The Boxster has never been about straight line speed, it's about balance, much in the same way the NSX is. Porsche claims the new Boxster will do 0-60 in 5.9, with the S doing it in 5.2.
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Originally Posted by Professor Gascan
The Boxster has never been about straight line speed, it's about balance, much in the same way the NSX is. Porsche claims the new Boxster will do 0-60 in 5.9, with the S doing it in 5.2.
I agree, but aside from braking, the competition leaves it behind. It just has no power coming out of the turns...actually it's just too heavy for the power.
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
I agree, but aside from braking, the competition leaves it behind. It just has no power coming out of the turns...actually it's just too heavy for the power.
Which competition would that be? The Z4 3.0 won't keep up with an S, and may be a little faster than the base car, and the S2000 splits the difference (with a hard launch more than real world performance). I don't think the new SLK will be any faster, except for the SLK 55 AMG, but it will probably be quite a bit more money. The only competition that I can think of that will dust it is the Corvette. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Originally Posted by Professor Gascan
Which competition would that be? The Z4 3.0 won't keep up with an S, and may be a little faster than the base car, and the S2000 splits the difference (with a hard launch more than real world performance). I don't think the new SLK will be any faster, except for the SLK 55 AMG, but it will probably be quite a bit more money. The only competition that I can think of that will dust it is the Corvette. Maybe I'm missing something.
S2000 or a 350Z on a track (forget launches and drag crap). The S2000 has very high entry speeds due to its weight. The 350Z has the straight line power. The Boxter is both too heavy and weak on power.

I'm not saying it's not fun, but a "roadster" of that size should NOT weigh more than our TSX by 300 pounds! It's obscene.
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
S2000 or a 350Z on a track (forget launches and drag crap). The S2000 has very high entry speeds due to its weight. The 350Z has the straight line power. The Boxter is both too heavy and weak on power.

I'm not saying it's not fun, but a "roadster" of that size should NOT weigh more than our TSX by 300 pounds! It's obscene.
WAAAAAAA??????? I don't know where you're getting your info from, but the Boxster is no where near 300 lbs heavier than the TSX. The funny thing is the Boxster S is 320lbs lighter than the TSX (3230 vs. 2910).
I don't know where you get the idea Boxster is a bad track car. On the Nurburgring the Boxster S ran a 8:32 vs the S2000's 8:39 (all with the same driver in dry conditions). The 350Z Roadster is no track star either, with 3428lbs on board, it quickly overheats its front tires, not to mention that it's straight line performance is on par with the base Boxster.
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I'm in the market for a car like this in two years, if they increase the price much from the current boxster I wouldn't even consider it with the Elise around

Edit- I hate to admit it but I liked the interior from the old boxster better, lets hope they used higher quality materials this time around at least.
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
I agree, but aside from braking, the competition leaves it behind. It just has no power coming out of the turns...actually it's just too heavy for the power.
For reference see Best Motoring compare the Boxster to other coupes, the thing nearly gets lapped.
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Originally Posted by xizor
For reference see Best Motoring compare the Boxster to other coupes, the thing nearly gets lapped.
If it's the video with the 350Z, S2000, and M3, that should have been a Boxster S in there in the first place. Second, other than the excellent entertainment value, Best Motoring videos are hardly an exact science. The results need to be taken with a grain of salf for sure, and to anyone who's watched enough of them, it's pretty obvious that the results are sometimes, well, skewed.
A lap time done around the Nurburgring (or any track for that matter), by a professional driver, in similar conditions, while still not perfect, is a better indication of each cars individual performance.
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Originally Posted by Professor Gascan
WAAAAAAA??????? I don't know where you're getting your info from, but the Boxster is no where near 300 lbs heavier than the TSX. The funny thing is the Boxster S is 320lbs lighter than the TSX (3230 vs. 2910).
I don't know where you get the idea Boxster is a bad track car. On the Nurburgring the Boxster S ran a 8:32 vs the S2000's 8:39 (all with the same driver in dry conditions). The 350Z Roadster is no track star either, with 3428lbs on board, it quickly overheats its front tires, not to mention that it's straight line performance is on par with the base Boxster.
Sorry, gross versus curb. Oopsie. I hate it when I forget to read.

Either way, 2900 is way to heavy for the car.

The 350Z can slow down a bit to save the tires and still keep pace with the Boxter.

Any more, it's like the Jeep Grand Cherokee of roadsters for people with money for a 2nd car tat costs $40K. Everyone has them, and no one uses them as they should.
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Originally Posted by Lung Fu Mo Shi
Sorry, gross versus curb. Oopsie. I hate it when I forget to read.

Either way, 2900 is way to heavy for the car.

The 350Z can slow down a bit to save the tires and still keep pace with the Boxter.

Any more, it's like the Jeep Grand Cherokee of roadsters for people with money for a 2nd car tat costs $40K. Everyone has them, and no one uses them as they should.
The Honda S2000 weighs 2835lbs, is that too heavy as well? How about the 350Z roadster at 3428lbs?

As for the claim that people with too much money don't use them like they should, you could make that claim about any new sports car. Most are bought by people who have the money to make it a second car, and use it cruising. Just because people paid less to own a 350Z roadster or S2000 doesn't make that fact go away.
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Originally Posted by Professor Gascan
If it's the video with the 350Z, S2000, and M3, that should have been a Boxster S in there in the first place. Second, other than the excellent entertainment value, Best Motoring videos are hardly an exact science.
Definately not an exact science, but they have skilled drivers on a race course. The boxster not only started first in the poll, but finished incredibly far behind every other car. You can make even some tiny conclusions that the boxster was no where close to the competition. Even the driver said the car isn't powerful enough, you don't need a german test track to figure these things out.

And the poll was based on price to power ratio I believe, and the boxster was the worst (hence first poll position). So it was the worst car in that race and the most expensive for what you get. I gotta go watch it again to make sure though.
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Originally Posted by xizor
Definately not an exact science, but they have skilled drivers on a race course. The boxster not only started first in the poll, but finished incredibly far behind every other car. You can make even some tiny conclusions that the boxster was no where close to the competition. Even the driver said the car isn't powerful enough, you don't need a german test track to figure these things out.
Like I said, it should have been the Boxster S in there in the first place. But it should have been apples to apples as well. The M3 should have been a cabrio, same with the 350Z. The S is a better track car than any of those.
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Originally Posted by Professor Gascan
Like I said, it should have been the Boxster S in there in the first place. But it should have been apples to apples as well. The M3 should have been a cabrio, same with the 350Z. The S is a better track car than any of those.
So you're saying that the Boxster S is a better track car than an M3 cabrio? I disagree.
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So you're saying that the Boxster S is a better track car than an M3 cabrio? I disagree.
Which you are free to do. Given the M3 Cabrio's 3773lb curb weight vs. the M3 coupe's 3407lb, and the fact that the Boxster S was faster around the 'Ring than the current M3 coupe, I'm inclined to believe that the Boxster S is the better track car. It's certainly the one I'd want to be in.

The times I'm referencing are coming from here. About half way down the page.
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I stand corrected.
Hey, no worries.
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Second-generation Porsche Boxster, first official look - - GREG KABLE - - Source: Autoweek


North American sales start Jan. 15, followed by the Boxster coupe’s debut later in 2005. Starting prices are $44,595 for the Boxster, $53,895 for the S.

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Despite its familiar appearance, Porsche says up to 80 percent of the ’05 Boxster’s components are heavily revised or replaced, although company officials admit many of the car’s crucial hard points have been carried over from the first-generation model launched in 1996.


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Second-generation Porsche Boxster, first official look - - GREG KABLE - - Source: Autoweek


North American sales start Jan. 15, followed by the Boxster coupe’s debut later in 2005. Starting prices are $44,595 for the Boxster, $53,895 for the S.

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Despite its familiar appearance, Porsche says up to 80 percent of the ’05 Boxster’s components are heavily revised or replaced, although company officials admit many of the car’s crucial hard points have been carried over from the first-generation model launched in 1996.


so we can expect basic Boxster S convertible to be somewhere around $60k.. sigh.. for the price I would rather get SLK55 AMG since it is also priced around $60k.
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nice corded phone, is that for car service?
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so we can expect basic Boxster S convertible to be somewhere around $60k.. sigh.. for the price I would rather get SLK55 AMG since it is also priced around $60k.
No kidding.

And have double the torque and a hard convertible top. Plus the airscarf
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Looks like a '99 Tiburon and a 911 had a love child
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The coupe looks pretty cool!
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More Spy Pics - 06 Boxster Coupe




Looking pretty good!!! Can't wait to see the official pics.
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Is it just me...or does the rear have some resemblances of the Crossfire?
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Nice, but looks way too much like a 911. That back end is sweet though.
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The X shape is unique. I wonder if it comes in any colors other than red?
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wow. now i see them. that looks good! i'm surprised
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The X shape is unique. I wonder if it comes in any colors other than red?
hehe. that's creative. haha
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The X shape is unique. I wonder if it comes in any colors other than red?

I can see em fine
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but I still think the side/rear profile resembles the crossfire...
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