Porsche: 718 Boxster/Cayman News
#362
The sizzle in the Steak
Where do I sign up?
Very nice, indeed!
Very nice, indeed!
#364
Safety Car
ah yes, the cayman...the best looking porsche. ever.
although, this thing needs a new front bumper.
sometimes porsche doesnt evolve some design cues. they just flip fop back and forth between designs as an excuse for something different on a new generation. nothing about that bumper says: 2009.
although, this thing needs a new front bumper.
sometimes porsche doesnt evolve some design cues. they just flip fop back and forth between designs as an excuse for something different on a new generation. nothing about that bumper says: 2009.
#365
Suzuka Master
Looks good.
#368
The exterior is hot, but I just don't get Porsche interiors. They don't have that Audi touch to them.
#371
2009 Porsche Boxster First Drive
2009 Porsche Boxster First Drive on Inside Line
The Roadster Infomercial
By Brent Romans, Senior Automotive Editor
Date posted: 12-08-2008
"It's the new 2009 Porsche Boxster. It's got two transmissions in one! Be one of the first 100 callers and we'll include this key chain absolutely free! Make just 60 easy payments of just $899! Call now!"
If Porsche did late-night infomercials on television, they'd probably sound much like that. But here's the thing — if we were watching, we'd be scrambling to the phone to sign up, our economy-frazzled credit cards be damned. The 2009 Porsche Boxster and 2009 Porsche Boxster S are that good.
"Two in one? That's unbelievable, Dieter!"
Looks the Same on the Outside
We're driving the 2009 Porsche Boxster at Willow Springs International Raceway, about 60 miles northeast of Los Angeles on the fringe of the Mojave Desert. A line of shiny new 2009 Boxsters awaits us, and from a distance, they look like multicolored M&Ms.
Get close and you might shrug and think the new car looks the same as any other second-generation Boxster. And, well, it pretty much does. Model-year 2009 is more of an update for the second-gen Boxster (it debuted for 2005 and had some changes for 2007), and almost all of the updates are mechanical ones hidden from view. No flashy vinyl graphics or new wheel covers here.
The most significant update for 2009 is the addition of the Porsche Doppelkupplungsgetriebe, or PDK. If you've read our coverage of the 2009 Porsche 911, then you know the deal with PDK, which supplements the standard six-speed manual transmission. This is Porsche's new seven-speed dual-clutch automated manual transmission, which is meant to replace the Boxster's former five-speed automatic. The Boxster's PDK transmission is different in detail from the 911's PDK, but it utilizes the same dual-clutch technology.
Similar in concept to Volkswagen's DSG, the PDK is meant to combine the fuel-efficiency and quick drivetrain response delivered by a manual transmission with the ease of operation of an automatic. Fully automated, the PDK does its own little Sudoku puzzle-solving with two gearsets and two wet-type clutches to provide exceptionally quick gearchanges.
All Without a Clutch Pedal? That's Unbelievable!
Like other automated manual transmissions, you can either leave the PDK in Drive for automatic shifting or select manual mode, the latter accomplished by moving the shift lever on the center console into the manual gate or by using the buttons on the steering wheel. On the high-speed track at Willow Springs, we found ourselves leaving the PDK in Drive. Partially, this is because Porsche has chosen the Bizarro-world orientation for the gearlever, because you push forward for upshifts and pull back for downshifts. But we'll also admit that Drive mode meant there would be less of a chance that we'd make an ass of ourselves in front of professional racers Derek Bell and Hurley Haywood, who were Porsche's driving instructors for the day.
If we had been driving a car with a manual transmission, for sure we would have blown a heel-and-toe downshift in front of Hurley. With PDK, however, you are Hurley. Every upshift clicks off with the crispness of a rifle shot, and every downshift is rev-matched with expert precision. There are three modes for shift action in Drive — Normal, Sport and Sport Plus. Porsche has programmed Sport Plus to deliver max-attack shifts at redline, the perfect strategy for track duty.
Meanwhile, since PDK is doing the shifting, you'll be free to concentrate on the Boxster's exceptional balance in the corners. No question, this has been the most compelling attribute on the midengine Boxster's resumé since the car was first introduced in 1997. The 911's rear-engine layout will always have a special place in a car enthusiast's heart because of the exceptional traction and braking it offers, but the Boxster's handling through corners is as sharp as a knife from J.A. Henckels — and it's so free of vices that you won't mess up and cut off your thumb, either.
A few suspension changes make the Boxster even better in the corners for 2009. The base-model Boxster gets a slightly wider front track and the same uprated brakes as the S model, and both the base car and S have revised suspension tuning and grippier tires. As before, the Boxster can be specified with the PASM option with its adjustable dampers and a slightly lower ride height.
But Wait, There's More!
Just as with the 2009 Porsche 911, the Boxster also incorporates some magic in the engine compartment that might be even more significant than the addition of PDK.
The base-model Boxster now has a 2.9-liter horizontally opposed six-cylinder engine that delivers 255 horsepower at 7,200 rpm, 10 hp more than the former 2.7-liter six. (Remember when only the Boxster S had 255 hp?) It also produces 214 pound-feet of torque, 14 lb-ft more than before.
Meanwhile, the 2009 Porsche Boxster S still features a 3.4-liter flat-6, but the addition of direct fuel injection works magic, permitting a combination of features that produces more output without compromising fuel-efficiency. The S model's engine is rated at 310 hp at 7,200 rpm and 265 lb-ft of torque at 4,750 rpm. The S model accelerates to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 5.3 seconds when you're rowing the six-speed manual transmission. This isn't much quicker than before, but the benefits of direct injection are tangible in the real world, as there's more midrange torque for better tractability, and there's less of a drop-off in power as the engine nears redline.
Are you reaching for the phone yet?
Boxster — Now With Launch-Control Crystals
Any time you have more than 300 hp in a package that weighs less than 3,000 pounds, you're going to get some pretty stellar acceleration. Nail the throttle and the Boxster S blasts forward while its flat-6 delivers a glorious soundtrack. Porsche says a Boxster with PDK actually accelerates quicker than one with a traditional manual transmission because there's less time lost while changing between gears.
Once you opt for the Sports Chrono package, PDK also comes with launch control — brake-torque the transmission like you would a regular automatic, release the brake and you're off. We tried it, and it worked pretty well — we noticed some minor axle hop and flashing traction control lights, but overall it's a much harder launch than you'd get with a Tiptronic automatic and a far more consistent one than you'd get with a manual. PDK provides superior fuel economy, too, thanks to the super-overdrive 7th gear.
Aside from the awkward operation of the buttons on the steering wheel, the PDK's only downside is that it doesn't provide the same enjoyable mechanical interface you get from working a clutch pedal and rowing the gears. As dual-clutch transmissions evolve, it's become clear to us that this technology is a substitute for an automatic transmission, not a manual one.
By Brent Romans, Senior Automotive Editor
Date posted: 12-08-2008
"It's the new 2009 Porsche Boxster. It's got two transmissions in one! Be one of the first 100 callers and we'll include this key chain absolutely free! Make just 60 easy payments of just $899! Call now!"
If Porsche did late-night infomercials on television, they'd probably sound much like that. But here's the thing — if we were watching, we'd be scrambling to the phone to sign up, our economy-frazzled credit cards be damned. The 2009 Porsche Boxster and 2009 Porsche Boxster S are that good.
"Two in one? That's unbelievable, Dieter!"
Looks the Same on the Outside
We're driving the 2009 Porsche Boxster at Willow Springs International Raceway, about 60 miles northeast of Los Angeles on the fringe of the Mojave Desert. A line of shiny new 2009 Boxsters awaits us, and from a distance, they look like multicolored M&Ms.
Get close and you might shrug and think the new car looks the same as any other second-generation Boxster. And, well, it pretty much does. Model-year 2009 is more of an update for the second-gen Boxster (it debuted for 2005 and had some changes for 2007), and almost all of the updates are mechanical ones hidden from view. No flashy vinyl graphics or new wheel covers here.
The most significant update for 2009 is the addition of the Porsche Doppelkupplungsgetriebe, or PDK. If you've read our coverage of the 2009 Porsche 911, then you know the deal with PDK, which supplements the standard six-speed manual transmission. This is Porsche's new seven-speed dual-clutch automated manual transmission, which is meant to replace the Boxster's former five-speed automatic. The Boxster's PDK transmission is different in detail from the 911's PDK, but it utilizes the same dual-clutch technology.
Similar in concept to Volkswagen's DSG, the PDK is meant to combine the fuel-efficiency and quick drivetrain response delivered by a manual transmission with the ease of operation of an automatic. Fully automated, the PDK does its own little Sudoku puzzle-solving with two gearsets and two wet-type clutches to provide exceptionally quick gearchanges.
All Without a Clutch Pedal? That's Unbelievable!
Like other automated manual transmissions, you can either leave the PDK in Drive for automatic shifting or select manual mode, the latter accomplished by moving the shift lever on the center console into the manual gate or by using the buttons on the steering wheel. On the high-speed track at Willow Springs, we found ourselves leaving the PDK in Drive. Partially, this is because Porsche has chosen the Bizarro-world orientation for the gearlever, because you push forward for upshifts and pull back for downshifts. But we'll also admit that Drive mode meant there would be less of a chance that we'd make an ass of ourselves in front of professional racers Derek Bell and Hurley Haywood, who were Porsche's driving instructors for the day.
If we had been driving a car with a manual transmission, for sure we would have blown a heel-and-toe downshift in front of Hurley. With PDK, however, you are Hurley. Every upshift clicks off with the crispness of a rifle shot, and every downshift is rev-matched with expert precision. There are three modes for shift action in Drive — Normal, Sport and Sport Plus. Porsche has programmed Sport Plus to deliver max-attack shifts at redline, the perfect strategy for track duty.
Meanwhile, since PDK is doing the shifting, you'll be free to concentrate on the Boxster's exceptional balance in the corners. No question, this has been the most compelling attribute on the midengine Boxster's resumé since the car was first introduced in 1997. The 911's rear-engine layout will always have a special place in a car enthusiast's heart because of the exceptional traction and braking it offers, but the Boxster's handling through corners is as sharp as a knife from J.A. Henckels — and it's so free of vices that you won't mess up and cut off your thumb, either.
A few suspension changes make the Boxster even better in the corners for 2009. The base-model Boxster gets a slightly wider front track and the same uprated brakes as the S model, and both the base car and S have revised suspension tuning and grippier tires. As before, the Boxster can be specified with the PASM option with its adjustable dampers and a slightly lower ride height.
But Wait, There's More!
Just as with the 2009 Porsche 911, the Boxster also incorporates some magic in the engine compartment that might be even more significant than the addition of PDK.
The base-model Boxster now has a 2.9-liter horizontally opposed six-cylinder engine that delivers 255 horsepower at 7,200 rpm, 10 hp more than the former 2.7-liter six. (Remember when only the Boxster S had 255 hp?) It also produces 214 pound-feet of torque, 14 lb-ft more than before.
Meanwhile, the 2009 Porsche Boxster S still features a 3.4-liter flat-6, but the addition of direct fuel injection works magic, permitting a combination of features that produces more output without compromising fuel-efficiency. The S model's engine is rated at 310 hp at 7,200 rpm and 265 lb-ft of torque at 4,750 rpm. The S model accelerates to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 5.3 seconds when you're rowing the six-speed manual transmission. This isn't much quicker than before, but the benefits of direct injection are tangible in the real world, as there's more midrange torque for better tractability, and there's less of a drop-off in power as the engine nears redline.
Are you reaching for the phone yet?
Boxster — Now With Launch-Control Crystals
Any time you have more than 300 hp in a package that weighs less than 3,000 pounds, you're going to get some pretty stellar acceleration. Nail the throttle and the Boxster S blasts forward while its flat-6 delivers a glorious soundtrack. Porsche says a Boxster with PDK actually accelerates quicker than one with a traditional manual transmission because there's less time lost while changing between gears.
Once you opt for the Sports Chrono package, PDK also comes with launch control — brake-torque the transmission like you would a regular automatic, release the brake and you're off. We tried it, and it worked pretty well — we noticed some minor axle hop and flashing traction control lights, but overall it's a much harder launch than you'd get with a Tiptronic automatic and a far more consistent one than you'd get with a manual. PDK provides superior fuel economy, too, thanks to the super-overdrive 7th gear.
Aside from the awkward operation of the buttons on the steering wheel, the PDK's only downside is that it doesn't provide the same enjoyable mechanical interface you get from working a clutch pedal and rowing the gears. As dual-clutch transmissions evolve, it's become clear to us that this technology is a substitute for an automatic transmission, not a manual one.
#372
Senior Moderator
Clubsport Version Info...
From Autocar...
A lightweight Porsche Cayman Clubsport is being prepared by the German sports car company, Autocar has learned.
The stripped-out Porsche Cayman Clubsport goes on sale in the UK in October. It marks the first time that Porsche has offered a hardcore version of the Cayman, which is intended to meet demand for a version suitable for track days and competition.
Porsche is expected to use the car to establish a new one-make race series. Prices have yet to be confirmed, but a £4k premium over the £44k Cayman S looks likely.
At the heart of the Porsche Cayman Clubsport is a package of weight-saving measures, including a stripped-out interior, lightweight body panels, simplified lighting system and forged alloy wheels that together shave up to 100kg off the kerb weight.
The tradition of previous Clubsport models like the 968CS is to keep the engine and gearbox standard, so expect the Cayman Clubsport to use the new 320bhp 3.4-litre flat six, now with direct injection, from the Porsche Cayman S.
A six-speed manual gearbox and limited-slip differential will be standard.
Thanks to the lower kerb weight, performance will be slightly better than the Cayman S’s 171mph and 4.9sec 0-62mph.
Other changes will include a unique body kit with deeper front and rear bumpers and a fixed rear spoiler to replace the retractable unit used on the standard Cayman.
Buyers will be able to order the Clubsport in either standard trim or in race spec – the latter adding a six-point harness, roll cage and fire extinguisher.
The stripped-out Porsche Cayman Clubsport goes on sale in the UK in October. It marks the first time that Porsche has offered a hardcore version of the Cayman, which is intended to meet demand for a version suitable for track days and competition.
Porsche is expected to use the car to establish a new one-make race series. Prices have yet to be confirmed, but a £4k premium over the £44k Cayman S looks likely.
At the heart of the Porsche Cayman Clubsport is a package of weight-saving measures, including a stripped-out interior, lightweight body panels, simplified lighting system and forged alloy wheels that together shave up to 100kg off the kerb weight.
The tradition of previous Clubsport models like the 968CS is to keep the engine and gearbox standard, so expect the Cayman Clubsport to use the new 320bhp 3.4-litre flat six, now with direct injection, from the Porsche Cayman S.
A six-speed manual gearbox and limited-slip differential will be standard.
Thanks to the lower kerb weight, performance will be slightly better than the Cayman S’s 171mph and 4.9sec 0-62mph.
Other changes will include a unique body kit with deeper front and rear bumpers and a fixed rear spoiler to replace the retractable unit used on the standard Cayman.
Buyers will be able to order the Clubsport in either standard trim or in race spec – the latter adding a six-point harness, roll cage and fire extinguisher.
#375
The sizzle in the Steak
Yes, please!
#377
Senior Moderator
Porsche Boxster Spyder: The Lightest Porsche You Can Buy
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At 2,811 lbs — only 11 lbs more than the 10-year-old 986 Porsche Boxster — the new 2011 Porsche Boxster Spyder will be the lightest Porsche you can buy after it's unveiled at next month's LA Auto Show.
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But it's not just lighter, it's also powerful thanks to the Boxster Spyder's 3.4-liter six-cylinder engine putting out 320 horses — that's 10 more HP than the Boxster S. So, wait, let's get this straight — it'll be 176 lbs lighter than the Boxster S and get a touch more power? Wow.
If you're already wondering where you sign up — here's better news. The new Porsche also gets an all-new sport suspension that lowers the Boxster Spyder 20 mm providing a lower center of gravity and a standard limited slip differential.
Mate the performance to a unique look reminiscent of the Carrera GT and we already know you're getting your checkbooks ready. But wait, like Billy Mays used to say, there's more — the price tag on the new lightweight Porsche-uh is just $61,200 when it goes on sale in February.
#379
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
this thing just gets better and better........
#384
I'm the Firestarter
It's nice with the top down but does that roof ever look ghetto...
#386
The sizzle in the Steak
Nobody who buys this will ever use the top...it's just "for show".
#387
Safety Car
word. the top is utilitarian / gimicky. which is why porsche accentuated this with the tie-down hooks on the trunk deck. also, the strap door handles share the same theme. otherwise, porsche didnt do a great job with portraying the body as "light", as there is more exterior surface area than the boxster.
if anything, it looks heavier with the rear hump.
nonetheless, the car is alright. id still rather have a reg boxster. not feeling the wanna-be GT rear.
if anything, it looks heavier with the rear hump.
nonetheless, the car is alright. id still rather have a reg boxster. not feeling the wanna-be GT rear.
Last edited by ThermonMermon; 11-06-2009 at 10:56 PM.
#389
Go Big Blue!
More power, better looks. Great improvement. Just wish they handled the center brake light a bit more elegantly. Other than that, I love what they did with the backend. Now lets see what all this did to the price. Probably won't be as pretty.
#391
I shoot people
#392
Suzuka Master
Looks great!
#393
Whats up with RDX owners?
iTrader: (9)
I read on Jalopnik that it will cost around $62k. I want one. I think it looks much better then the regular Boxster. My only question is does that "roof" become water tight once installed?
#395
Whats up with RDX owners?
iTrader: (9)
It has switched on the door for windows.
Thats why I was wondering if the top was watertight or is it basically an umbrella.
Thats why I was wondering if the top was watertight or is it basically an umbrella.
#396
Three Wheelin'
#398
Go Big Blue!
#399
Suzuka Master
^I'm almost positive it's a manual setup as well. At 62k MSRP, the question is: better to order and get a brand new Spyder or pick up an 07-08 911..