Pontiac Grand Prix News **GXP tested by MT (page 2)**

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Old 10-29-2004, 02:56 PM
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But then what's the point of having so much HP and torque if the traction control is working full time to brake the brakes, cut the power and reduce the torque. Once the traction control starts to intervene, the car will become slower. I bet the same FWD GTP with a V6 can outrun the FWD GTP V8.
Old 10-29-2004, 03:36 PM
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But then what's the point of having so much HP and torque if the traction control is working full time to brake the brakes, cut the power and reduce the torque. Once the traction control starts to intervene, the car will become slower. I bet the same FWD GTP with a V6 can outrun the FWD GTP V8.
Marketing, bragging rights. To most people, ie non-car enthusiasts, it's the number of cylinders that sells.
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
But then what's the point of having so much HP and torque if the traction control is working full time to brake the brakes, cut the power and reduce the torque. Once the traction control starts to intervene, the car will become slower. I bet the same FWD GTP with a V6 can outrun the FWD GTP V8.
As mentioned by phile, it has quite a bit to do with marketing, etc.

Also, unless the conditions are adverse or they launch very hard, the traction will be there when they punch it at 40 MPH to merge onto the highway.

However, I agree that the blown GTP could probably run with the V8.
Old 10-30-2004, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Edward'TLS
It's perfectly all right if GM wants to market the GTP as a luxo cruiser just like the FWD Cadillac with the V8 Northstar engine. It is simply technologially impossible, at this time, to put the horsepower and torque from a big displacement V8 engine onto two front wheels and make the resulting car drives like a sport sedan. That's exactly why the CTS-V is no FWD.

Hey Pontiac has managed for a number of years to almost eliminate torque steer on the FWD 3.8L supercharged Grand Prix GTP wich produces 240-260HP and 280lbs torque. They did a better job than Nissan whose high powered Altima and Maxima are reported to have pretty bad torque steer. So I have faith that the new V8 Grand Prix will have torque steer under control.

But it would be even nicer if the V8 Grand Prix were an AWD.
Old 11-01-2004, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TSX 'R' US
Though the GTO needs more aggresiveness... I'd probably take this over the GTO...
Have you ever driven a GTO? I think you may change your mind if you haven't.
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Originally Posted by Ruski
Hey Pontiac has managed for a number of years to almost eliminate torque steer on the FWD 3.8L supercharged Grand Prix GTP wich produces 240-260HP and 280lbs torque. They did a better job than Nissan whose high powered Altima and Maxima are reported to have pretty bad torque steer. So I have faith that the new V8 Grand Prix will have torque steer under control.

But it would be even nicer if the V8 Grand Prix were an AWD.
What did Pontiac do to eliminate torque steer on FDW cars ? I'm really interest in knowing what type of technology or suspension tuning did Pontiac invent to do so. Many other car makers are still unable to eliminate torque steer on high-power FWD cars, such as Saab, Volvo, to name a few.
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In the latest MT mag edition, the GXP ran:

6.0 for the 60
14.3 @ 98.1 mph for the 1/4 mile
60-0 = 119 feet
600ft slalom = 64.2 mph
Lateral Acc.= 0.82 g

Base price $29995
As tested $31640

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The GTP with a smaller pulley will move on the GTX, but the most i have seen anyone pull out of the 3.8 GTP is mid-high 12's while keeping drvability and durability. Now the 5.3 is an awesome motor in the wrong car. It has excellent flowing heads. The heads are so good that Z06 and ls1 guys use ported versions of the 5.3 head all the time. With mods, this car will be a beast. And although traction is an issue, the SRT-4 doesnt have problems hitting 12's on street tires.
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