1SICKLEX

We'll See. The Altima hasn't come close to winning any comparo in any magazine. They fixed the interior some, added more (to it's already dreaded torque steer) but added a LSD? I am sure it is better than the SE Altima.

Nissan, is just on a roll period. I just can't wait for the buttmunch in the SE-R to post he beat a GT2 from a roll....

gavriil

No doubt about it.

CLovis

here are some huge ass pix from nissan's site

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia...ltima_SE-R.jpg

http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia...ltima_SE-R.jpg

CLovis

ok i know its already been said but they RAELALY should have redone the taillights - -- removed the ricer look....

CLovis

why you hatin' on your wifey's car/?

WILLDOGS

http://www.altimas.net/forum/showthr...hreadid=164693

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QUOTE:
I work at Nissan, i've gotten to speak with the Nissan rep.
These are facts, no speculation

The new SER Altima

HP 255-275 Nissan hasnt yet desided, but we all assume the finnal with be 265HP

Top Speed of 155-175 yet to be tested , but it's definetly over 155 =)

New 6 speed trans has been developed an will be used on the SER

The automatic will be sports shift

The front an rear swaybars are larger

the shocks an struts are GAS filled

The SER sits lower 1" lower then the SE

The interior will only come in leather
2 colors black with a silver insert an matching stiching, or red with black with matching stiching

The dash will be laced with 3 gauge pods the same on the 350z

The steering wheel is MOMO

The front seats are out of a G35 coupe

All the chrome accents will be done in black chrome

The SER comes loaded, with only one option which is LSD

The car comes with 18" aluminum rims an V rated tires

The Exhaust is designed of FlowMaster, an is tuned to the same sound as the 350z, so it's loud stock.

Calipers will be silver with SER imprinted on them

IF you live in NJ NY area an would like to be out on my list for SER calls e-mail me at Shri222@hotmail.com

The SER will debute as a Limited Edition
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He also goes on to say in another thread that:

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Oh also 07 Nissan will Debut the Nismo Super Z which is a AWD 400+ HP 350Z with a Nismo Bodykit, 7" longer then stock, an that's gonna be about $70,000

WHY? Because this is the Nissan version of the Skyline, which will be lined in Infinity. The Skyline will use the Z platform
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This guy is an old respected member of the Altima board, so the chances of this being BS is very small.


I am happy to hear that the suspenion will be much lower than previously seen!

Crazy Bimmer

:fwd:

Wonder if the price will be close to 30k.

Edward'TLS

Who the hell is gonna buy the Maxima then ?!

Crazy Bimmer

someone who wants a FULL size car maxima is a boat!

Scrib

You'd think that someone that works for Nissan would know how to spell INFINITI!!!???

gavriil

People that need more room and a less sporty ride.

gavriil

I like this news. I believe most of it. A couple of things:

1. I cant see the top speed of the SER being much higher than 155, even with the right gearing. For sure it cant be 165 or more as there is not enough horsepower there. I mean the first year C5 hit 172mph and had 350HP.

2. The creation of a long-nose Z is no news. The news is that:

1. it will be offered here. That I am assuming from the above, albeit not clear. The reason Nissan needed this car is for homologation for racing participation at the Japanese version of NASCAR.

2. I was not aware that AWD was offered with the long nose Z.

3. Up to now there were very minor tweaks of the current engine for the long nose Z. I believe the prototype in Japan carried about 300HP. So the 400HP (Skyline engine) is also news to me.

I hope it's true.

Rod

Yeah, I also heard that the long nose Z would basically have the same power as the current Z, which is why I thought $70K was ridiculous.

Nashua_Night_Hawk

no official specs so far, I can post the training material if you want... the above is not that accurate!.

It would be released for sale next month!.

gavriil

Does the training material say anything we dont know?

Nashua_Night_Hawk

no... other than it would be realeased for sale next month!

Nashua_Night_Hawk

6-speed stick is new and will be used on the 05 maxima to be released for sale at the same time

srika

I still don't understand why they're building this car. The Altima is a boat. What's next, Maxima SE-R? How about a Armada SE-R...

Crazy Bimmer

Or a acura CL type-S . TL type-S, rsx Type-S

srika

tuned exhaust? MOMO steering wheel? Brembo brakes? Last time I checked the Type-S models don't have any of these like, dedicated "race-spec" mods (correct me if I'm wrong). As far as I'm concerned, all the Type-S models have are bigger wheels, more hp, and 6-speed manual. Nissan is taking it to a higher level. A level which, I feel is unecessary in boats such as the Altima.

Would you want to race a CL Type-S at a roadcourse? I wouldn't. An RSX, yes. TL, no. Sentra SE-R, definitely. Altima SE-R? No. The car is just too damn big. CAN you race it at a roadcourse? Sure. Just like you can race any car at a roadcourse...

rrr

Nashua_Night_Hawk

SE-R will get:
1) 12.6"x1.x" Front Rotors ( our CLS are 12"x1.1") Front Calipers are paint silver with SE-R logo. No Brembos.
2) No MOMO steering wheel
3) 250+ HP
4) Stiffer suspension and thicker sway bars front and rear
5) 18" Forged Alloy wheels (that is nice) and 18" tires.
6) dual exhaust.
7) no NAV, but there is the 3 pods like the Z.

1SICKLEX

Is it just me or a 155mph+ Altima is just ghey. A loaded Altima is 32k. What will this be?
THey are KILLING the Maxima right now. And I'd still take a BASE G35 over this.

charliemike

I don't care if the car was given to me, I'd never own that POS long-nosed 350Z monstrosity.

heyitsme

Think nissan already has the specs up
http://nissannews.com/nissan/2005veh...-r/specs.shtml

srika

ok then, maybe it isn't so bad if it doesn't have the Brembos and the MOMO wheel... but... that doesn't change the fact that its :ghey:

srika

ok then, maybe it isn't so bad if it doesn't have the Brembos and the MOMO wheel... but... that doesn't change the fact that its :ghey:

srika

hmmmm its actually not that heavy a car... only some 3200 lbs. I thought it was more than that. But I have a feeling the 62/38 weight distribution isn't quite optimal for the track. And also there is the issue of sheer bulk...

gavriil

Altima

Originally launched in 2002, the current generation Altima was designed to provide an exciting alternative to the otherwise ordinary mid-size sedan segment. In 2005, Altima bolsters that concept with a dramatic overhaul to the one of the most popular Nissan vehicles. Refinements for the 2005 model year include several styling enhancements, two new exterior colors, a totally revamped interior for a higher quality look and feel and newly available features such as a DVD-based navigation system. Also, Altima\'s V6 engine has been refined to produce five more horsepower.

Enhancements to the 2005 Altima include:
· New restyled headlamps and taillights
· Restyled smooth front fascia with a distinctive raised hood design
· New Nissan family grille
· 250-horsepower 3.5-liter DOHC 24-valve V6 with 249 lb-ft of torque (increases of five horsepower and three lb-ft torque)
· New wheels for all trim levels
· New instrument panel design, center console, trim finishes, seat materials and headliner
· New chrome door handles and chrome accents around gauges
· New 3-spoke steering wheel design
· New SL package for both 4-cylinder and V6 models
· Available DVD-based navigation system



All the changes for the 2005 Nissan models - - Source: Autospies

gavriil

Nissan confirms that they want to be on the top when it comes to HP OEM ratings with their cars.

gavriil

Altima SE-R

2005 marks the first-ever Altima SE-R model. The Altima SE-R’s standard 260-horsepower 3.5-liter V6 engine has been tuned to a higher level of performance (compared with other 2005 Altima models) and the suspension has been enhanced with performance-tuned front struts and rear shocks, stiffer front and rear springs and thicker front and rear stabilizer bars. The SE-R comes with 225/45R18 Y-speed rated tires and 18-inch forged aluminum-alloy wheels.

The SE-R’s exterior offers a number of special features, including unique front and rear fascias, compact fog lights, new rear spoiler and side sill spoilers and large dual exhaust finishers. Inside, the SE-R features sport-shaped leather-appointed front seats with red or gray leather perforated inserts, dark chrome trim and a three-pod center-mounted gauge package, which is similar to that found on the legendary 350Z.

Key features of the 2005 Altima SE-R include:
· Unique rear spoiler and side sill spoilers and front and rear fascias with distinctive raised hood design
· 260-horsepower 3.5-liter DOHC 24-valve V6 with 251 lb-ft of torque
· Drilled aluminum pedals
· Standard HID xenon headlights with unique bezel color
· Performance-tuned suspension with recalibrated front struts and rear shocks, stiffer front and rear springs and thicker front and rear stabilizer bars
· Large 12.6x1.1-inch front brakes with silver painted front and rear calipers, SE-R logo on front calipers and standard Anti-lock Braking System (ABS)
· Standard Bose® Premium audio system with eight speakers, in-dash 6-disc CD



All the changes for the 2005 Nissan models - - - Source: Autospies

gavriil

Notice the additional 2 lb/ft of torque over the V6 Altima

heyitsme

heyitsme

Automotives: SE-R makes new Nissan Altima a joy ride
John Gilbert
Budgeteer News
Last Updated: Friday, August 27th, 2004 01:37:24 PM

About a decade ago, Nissan created a surprise high-performer, the Sentra SE-R, which looked like the basic entry-level subcompact, but thanks to those initials after the name, came equipped with a factory upgraded engine, suspension, wheels, tires, and most importantly, fun quotient. So when I got the chance for a brief weekend with a 2005 Nissan Altima SE-R, I jumped at it.
The chance came during the introduction of the all-new Nissan Pathfinder in Seattle and nearby Bainbridge Island, and everything about the redesigned Pathfinder was impressive, but couldn’t be written about until September.
That’s a reasonable way to allow monthly magazines a chance to drive the same vehicles earlier and describe them at approximately the same time. Of course, the magazines get their September issues out by as early as July, but that sort of cheating is granted wink-wink/nudge-nudge acceptance.
My plan was to follow the Seattle trip with a weekend drive to scenic Bellingham, up close to the British Columbia border, where my son, Jeff, is currently living. I was offered the chance to drive a preproduction Altima SE-R for the weekend, and I was off. Nissan has reintroduced the Sentra SE-R, and will bring out the new Altima SE-R in mid-September. With no separate introduction planned, I was getting what amounted to an exclusive road-test.
A bright red and shiny black SE-R were both on display in Seattle, a city known as the home of Starbucks, which has coffee shops on virtually every block. “Seattle’s Best Coffee” stands and other competitors make it the richest caffeine city in the universe. Although I’m partial to Dunn Brothers, I savor my gourmet coffee black and straight, and that was the same way I chose my Altima SE-R — the black one, with a straight, six-speed stick. A couple of hours later, I was off. Driving up Interstate 5 as a slalom run amid the weekend wanderers, I felt united with the Altima SE-R’s capabilities, just as it felt fully responsive to my every urging.
The Altima itself was changed completely three years ago, growing onto the same platform as the larger Maxima and gaining Nissan’s strong 3.5-liter V6 in the process. For 2005, the front has been restyled to take on the “family” grille, and the SE-R gets a darkened treatment. It also gets unique front and rear fascias, a rear spoiler, high-intensity xenon headlights, tiny foglights set into the lower front and large chrome tips on the dual exhausts. True to the SE-R heritage, the best stuff comes underneath.
The 3.5 V6 is increased from 250 to 260 horsepower, and from 249 to 251 foot-pounds of torque for the SE-R, and while that’s not a big improvement, the difference is readily apparent from the husky exhaust note. A modular cylinder-head design with lightweight pistons is topped off by continuously-variable valve timing and a variable fuel-air induction system. The SE-R’s six-speed manual gets slightly revised gear ratios from second gear upward when compared to the five-speed sticks of other Altima models. The five-speed automatic that was on the red display car is also available on the SE-R.
The SE-R sticks to the road with larger 18-inch forged alloy wheels that are 8 inches wide, compared to the standard 16-by-6.5 on base, four-cylinder Altimas and 17-by-7 on SL or SE models. The altered aspect ratio means more alloy and less rubber, and the 225/45R18 low-profile tires help provide superior grip.
Just as significant to the handling of the SE-R is an increase in thickness of the stabilizer bars, by 2 mm in front and by 4.3 mm in the rear.
It was no surprise that the SE-R Altima held its position with ease on the freeway, but it more eagerly accepted the twisty two-lane roads from Bellingham to Mount Baker, where my son, Jeff, was tour-guide and co-driver. He was as impressed as I was at the car’s behavior. While it accelerated swiftly, the most fun was putting the right front corner on the outer line and having it hold that line with precision around the tightest turns.
Disc brakes on all four wheels are larger and thicker in front on the SE-R, and antilock brakes are standard, while brake-assist and electronic brake force distribution help assure that when you step on the brake pedal hard, you will get full potential out of those enlarged discs.
Inside, the SE-R package starts out with a unique dash treatment, with sportier textures and a center array of voltage, oil pressure and fuel consumption atop the stack that houses the audio and heat-air controls. That means you can’t get a navigation system in the SE-R. You do get the upgraded Bose audio system with six disc changer in the dash and eight speakers. Power, heated, leather front bucket seats and a 60-40 fold-down rear seat are standard in the SE-R.
At 3,279 pounds, the SE-R is no lightweight, but it carries its nose-heavy distribution well on the front-wheel-drive platform, and torque steer was never a problem during my drive time. Fuel economy is estimated at 20 city and 28 highway for the stick-shift SE-R.
The Altima’s main challenge is the Honda Accord and Toyota Camry, and it does well in that comparison. Last year, a new challenger emerged with the revised Mazda6 setting new standards for sporty handling among midsize sedans. Maybe that was the inspiration for Nissan to develop the SE-R, which gives the Altima a boost in sporty performance and handling in a potent package that is tastefully styled to be subtle — until you put your foot down.

Duluthian John Gilbert writes weekly auto reviews and can be reached at jgilbert@duluth.com.

gavriil

One of the big mags reported that there will be a coupe Altima and a cabrio Altima from Nissan in the near future to battle the Solara.

Makes sense from a total sales numbers standpoint.

F23A4

...I never really thought of the Solara-Sebring market to be that remarkable.

titan

Yep Yep... This is a need and welcome addtion to the line. I think Nissan was worried about an Altima coupe canablizing the 350Z's sales, but not anymore. While this is a coupe, it'll be a "sporty" FWD car of a sedan. That will never be confused with the Z. Nissan definitely needs something to battle the Solara and Honda coupe.

Maximized

Bad move IMO....Why would anyone buy a Altima Coupe over a 350Z? They will cost roughly the same, but you will get less performance out of a FWD vehicle. Maybe if the price is right it would sell, but by adding the VQ to it, Nissan is going to price it out of the market.

F23A4

If they put the VQ35DE, it's MSRP will seriously overlap the Z's price range.

As it is, a new 05 base 350Z can be acquired for less than $27G (cloth, 6MT) and I'm pretty certain a new coupe would come in at well over $20G.

Personally, I wouldnt mind seeing a new USDM Silvia (250SX?); maybe a RWD 2+2 with a "highly" tuned QR25DE. However, I just dont see a market for it beyond us enthusiasts.

I'll keep reading www.nissannews.com and see what comes down the pipeline.

titan

I disagree. There's not alot of wiggle room with the price, I'll admit. With the VQ in there, It'll be nippin at the Z's toes. But a hardcore, RWD two seater isn't for everyone. Nissan's missing a piece of the pie without having what's basically a sedan with two doors chopped off and different styling. The key is pricing and marketing it correctly.

titan

Nissan should have the VQ as the only engine choice... Toyota does it that way. no reason why Nissan shouldn't.